medication

[jayebrownlee]

I am so glad to see someone say this -medication is not the way too go we can use human means for our outer body the problems we have for that are basic but for our inner self,where we see real complications beyond human understanding we need God!,I have depressed friends on med and I just think wow I am blessed I can go to God for this type of healing,depression is not really a physical problem but a spirtual one-you dont take tablets for that.

Depression can be a physical probelm with an organic cause and therefore medication can help, you wouldn't tell someone with asthma not to take there inhaler when they were having an attack, it is the same thing.

Jay

 

[JohnR7]

Hi all! The best medicine is laughter!...Is there a sripture for that?

Proverbs 17:22a A merry heart doeth good like a medicine:

The Joy of the Lord is our strength. This scripture is a referance to the Joy we have as a fruit of the Holy Spirit of God in us.

It is not God's will or plan for us to be oppressed, repressed or depressed in any way. It is His desire to save, heal, and deliver us from all of that. We can be washed and cleansed in the word and in the Precious Blood of Jesus. Then He wants to fill us with His Holy Spirit.

We live in faith, not feeling, we are to live in the Spirit not the flesh. Then the Fruit of the Holy Spirit will grow and be produced in us.

Galatians 5:19-24
Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, [20] idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, [21] envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. [22] But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, [23] gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. [24] And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

 

[Cherberrie]

I agree, Jay. Seratonin and all that. It really makes me angry when people think that depression is just laziness or a spiritual problem. My depression is hereditary.
As for meds, I was on Prozac for a long time, then Effexor, now taking Paxil CR, which has made me feel like myself again.

 

[Mr.Cheese]

People who say things like that about depression have never had clinical depression.
Think about it. How would you expect them to ever understand unless they went through it.

I was the same way until I short circuited last summer. Now that I understand what depression is I realize that I do not remember not having it.
Medicine cannot fix a spiritual problem. I completely agree with that. It is meant to deal with a physiological problem.
So why did it help me?

Psychology is not an enemy.

 

[Cutes4Jesus]

I agree, Jay. Seratonin and all that. It really makes me angry when people think that depression is just laziness or a spiritual problem. My depression is hereditary.
As for meds, I was on Prozac for a long time, then Effexor, now taking Paxil CR, which has made me feel like myself again.

Why does it make you angry?I suffer depression and i dont have a problem with that,I think it can also be connected with things gone wrong in your life particularly childhood.And i certainly wasnt saying its laziness,I mean i can be lazy myself but that is a different issue from my depression You says it hereditary,as if you are just accepting it Im not accepting mine and as a result im overcoming,Im sure God doesnt plan to have me dependent on med to have a smile on my face for my whole life ,or to spend my life visiting different shrinks-no way Im going to be well in name of Jesus.

 

[Cutes4Jesus]

People who say things like that about depression have never had clinical depression.
Think about it. How would you expect them to ever understand unless they went through it.

I was the same way until I short circuited last summer. Now that I understand what depression is I realize that I do not remember not having it.
Medicine cannot fix a spiritual problem. I completely agree with that. It is meant to deal with a physiological problem.
So why did it help me?

Psychology is not an enemy.

If that was directed at me your assumption was wrong I have suffered depression,been suicidal etc,if you meant psychological problem not physiological I still think you need God to fix that sort of stuff,i think a lot of things people learn in psychology are warped and wrong for various reasons,partly because we humans dont understand our own phsychology fully therefore many depression suffererers relying on shrinks dont overcome.
Im trying to understand my psychology,but asking for wisdom from God to understand it and address it.Ive already had breakthroughs-only the other day gaining a better understanding on why Ive been attracted to certain aspects of a particular relationships,what void i was trying to fill and other stuff,It was amazing.Im not dissing meds totally Id have to think and pray on the subject but I no they are not for me.

 

[Cutes4Jesus]

Depression can be a physical probelm with an organic cause and therefore medication can help, you wouldn't tell someone with asthma not to take there inhaler when they were having an attack, it is the same thing.

Jay

no i wouldnt but as I said doctors have a more accurate understanding of things like our physical bodies and in this case -asthma.Medical science is well versed on the ins and outs of the respiratary system(i know i misspelt it!)so ill trust them on that-again only to an extent.if you are arguing that depression is purely a physical problem then that it is a whole different thing.so it is not 'the same thing'.

 

[Cherberrie]

Why does it make you angry?I suffer depression and i dont have a problem with that,I think it can also be connected with things gone wrong in your life particularly childhood.And i certainly wasnt saying its laziness,I mean i can be lazy myself but that is a different issue from my depression You says it hereditary,as if you are just accepting it Im not accepting mine and as a result im overcoming,Im sure God doesnt plan to have me dependent on med to have a smile on my face for my whole life ,or to spend my life visiting different shrinks-no way Im going to be well in name of Jesus.

I'm really glad that your situation does not require you to take meds or seek therapeutic help. However, depression due to a chemical imbalance is quite different from situational depression.There was no situation that triggered my depression. I had a loving and happy childhood, I am very close to my family. When I was first diagnosed with depression in high school, I was active in several clubs, about to graduate and go to college, things were great. But I felt sad all the time, I wasn't eating, I lost weight and got down to 95 pounds. And I had no idea what was wrong, no situation to pinpoint why I was feeling that way. And it's not that I was "giving in" to my depression, or that I wasn't praying enough. My family is a very Godly family, and my parents were the ones that first took me to the doctor for treatment. Believe me, there was much praying going on as well.
As far as "accepting" my depression, well yes, I do accept that I have a medical problem that requires medication. It actually took me a long time to accept that, but I knew I had to in order to get well. I don't like having to take medication every day. I still pray for ultimate healing, but until then, I am going to take my meds so I can lead a normal life.
I'm not going to comment right now about what you posted in another post about psychology. I'm working on my Master's in psychology and it hasn't affected my faith one bit.

 

[wblastyn]

I found when my wife missed taking her meds (mood stabilizers) it sort of began a cycle of events that usually ended with us arguing about something unimportant...like..which came first, the chicken or the banana?! Meds are indeed a positive part of some people lives.

Would you believe someone began a thread saying I annoyed them? I mean...apart from being a theiving, murdering, gay, evolutionist...there's nothing wrong with me!

Actually the thread wasn't about you, you were mentioned for your behaviour when talking about gays once but the thread wasn't entirely about you.

 

[Rosebud]

I'm currently on Prozac. It helps even out my mood swings and my lows are I-want-to-die lows.

I used to be on Zoloft. That worked fine until it started to get rid of my appetite.

Inbetween the two I was on Zyprexa for a while, and let me tell you that's strong stuff. It didn't do any good for me. I felt mad constantly and I just couldn't control my emotions-they got me off that stuff fast.

 

[jayebrownlee]

Zyprexa isn't an anti-depressant it is an anti-psychotic, I was on it for ages untill I stopped taking my meds so they have started me on an injected anti-psychotic

Jay

 

[Stanfi]

I was on Zoloft, but it made me loose my apeptite, and made the depression much worse. Then switched to Lexapro. This stabalized the mood swings, and made the lows.. well, not so low. At this point in my life, I feel that I do need the meds.. I wish I didn't. I also have to depend on God. If things are not well between me and the Lord the depression is much worse than it normally is. So in my case I feel that it is both spiritual and medical... Just my experience.