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[Jisun]

Oh okay! so Bahnmal has simple, uninflected phonemes, then?

Yes. Also, I should point out to you that Korean does not have tones like in Chinese.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Yes. Also, I should point out to you that Korean does not have tones like in Chinese.

Interesting; so it sounds kind of staccato with lots of syllables, then, I guess.

 

[Jisun]

Oh okay! so Bahnmal has simple, uninflected phonemes, then?

Uh no? It's not like staccato. It all runs smoothly together, like English or Japanese.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Uh no? It's not like staccato. It all runs smoothly together, like English or Japanese.

Not like Spanish, then...

 

[Jisun]

Not like Spanish, then...

haha Spanish is even more flowing together the words and sounds than English or Korean. sometimes even letter at the end of Spanish words can disappear in order to smooth them over together.

 

[faroukfarouk]

haha Spanish is even more flowing together the words and sounds than English or Korean. sometimes even letter at the end of Spanish words can disappear in order to smooth them over together.

Spanish is quite highly syllablic, with the five regular vowels: a-e-i-o-u.

So anyway, do you see that the Korean Hangul script can be adapted artistically? because with Chinese you can draw the characters: writing is almost drawing (a different concept from what pertains in Western languages, usually).

 

[faroukfarouk]

PS: To put it differently, when you are writing Korean in the Hangul script, do you feel like you are drawing, in comparison with when you are writing Western languages?

 

[Jisun]

Spanish is quite highly syllablic, with the five regular vowels: a-e-i-o-u.

So anyway, do you see that the Korean Hangul script can be adapted artistically? because with Chinese you can draw the characters: writing is almost drawing (a different concept from what pertains in Western languages, usually).

Pronunciation wisee, there's so many ways you can say stuff in Spanish, and it's more prominent in say, Cuban Spanish maybe, where words and whole sentence seem to run into each other. It's very syllabic though yes. That is, you pronouce every single syllable.

Um. Not really? hangul derives from the Chinese written language actually-- or the hanja did, rather, which is what we call the Chinese language that has been Koreanized, but uh. I mean. I'm an artist. I'm sure I can make a way to make it look artistic if I really wanted to. But I will say that hangul is not as artistically beautiful as Arabic.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Pronunciation wisee, there's so many ways you can say stuff in Spanish, and it's more prominent in say, Cuban Spanish maybe, where words and whole sentence seem to run into each other. It's very syllabic though yes. That is, you pronouce every single syllable.

Um. Not really? hangul derives from the Chinese written language actually-- or the hanja did, rather, which is what we call the Chinese language that has been Koreanized, but uh. I mean. I'm an artist. I'm sure I can make a way to make it look artistic if I really wanted to. But I will say that hangul is not as artistically beautiful as Arabic.

...or Persian, right?

I guess, anyway, that as an artist, when you see ppl such as tattoo artists using the sweeping and graceful tribal lines of a design, there comes a point when there is a thin and unclear distinction between writing in Eastern languages and drawing, maybe?

 

[Jisun]

...or Persian, right?

I guess, anyway, that as an artist, when you see ppl such as tattoo artists using the sweeping and graceful tribal lines of a design, there comes a point when there is a thin and unclear distinction between writing in Eastern languages and drawing, maybe?

Well, there is calligraphy...have you heard of calligraphy?

 

[faroukfarouk]

Well, there is calligraphy...have you heard of calligraphy?

Yes, indeed. Eastern languages (that is, with non-Western scripts) especially lend themselves to tasteful calligraphy, right?

A calligrapher is also in a sense a good term to use of a tattoo artist, don't you think?

 

[Jisun]

Yes, indeed. Eastern languages (that is, with non-Western scripts) especially lend themselves to tasteful calligraphy, right?

A calligrapher is also in a sense a good term to use of a tattoo artist, don't you think?

Definitely. But I don't discredit English's ability to be artistic as well.
And no, I wouldn't really equate a tattoo artist with calligrapher.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Definitely. But I don't discredit English's ability to be artistic as well.
And no, I wouldn't really equate a tattoo artist with calligrapher.

Oh I'm not saying that calligraphers and tattoo artists are the same, by any means; but given the nature of the 'artistic' lines in Eastern scripts, and given the way tattoo artists work the inking needles (if you've ever been in a parlor and seen it done), I reckon there are some close parallels sometimes.

 

[mnorian]

Helloooo!! My friend told me about this forum and I wanted to come and check you guys out! My name is Jisun and I'm 25. I was born in Seoul, South Korea, but grew up in Hong Kong and then went to college in Baltimore, Maryland! (small school, not many people know about it.) I majored in Creative Writing and minored in Spanish. I love learning languages! So far, I know and speak three pretty well (English, Korean, Spanish) and know a handful of French, Mandarin, and German.

I'm mostly a fiction prose writer, but I do dabble in writing poetry as well. At the moment, I'm working on a paranormal/supernatural short story idea.

I'm a huge fan of going with the flow, and seeing the beauty in everything and everyone; one of my favorite quotes: "The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or touched; they must be felt with the heart." - Helen Keller.

I love Disney movies, and any other animated movies-- I'm really a child at heart. I'm a huge Harry Potter fan, my favorite color is pink, and I love listening to music. More often than not, I am listening to music. My favorite genres of music are rap, hip-hop/R&B, pop, indie. and folk/bluegrass, but really, I will listen to anything. As you can see, my music tastes vary quite a lot. and of course, I love listening to music in different languages as well.

Hello Jisun, welcome to CF; we have a forum for almost every kind of interest you have. I like lots of different kinds of music; but lately; as long as it praises our Lord Jesus Christ. We have a thread in our Deeper Fellowship forum; that you might like to check out and maybe contribute to; I would like to hear what is popular in the Christian circles of Seoul:

http://www.christianforums.com/threads/praise-songs-for-df-uplifting.7944228/#post-69584497

 

[Jisun]

Hello Jisun, welcome to CF; we have a forum for almost every kind of interest you have. I like lots of different kinds of music; but lately; as long as it praises our Lord Jesus Christ. We have a thread in our Deeper Fellowship forum; that you might like to check out and maybe contribute to; I would like to hear what is popular in the Christian circles of Seoul:

http://www.christianforums.com/threads/praise-songs-for-df-uplifting.7944228/#post-69584497

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Helloo! Thank you so much! Yes, I've looked at the other forums and threads, and everything looks wonderful! I hope to contribute more as time goes on! and I will definitely check that thread out! although I actually go to an English service that's mostly foreigners and Koreans born or raised part of their time outside of Korea, so a lot of the songs I know are actually by English-speaking singers and bands. But I would love to give you some music in Korean and in Spanish?

 

[faroukfarouk]

Definitely. But I don't discredit English's ability to be artistic as well.
And no, I wouldn't really equate a tattoo artist with calligrapher.

PS: So do you consider taking up art as a career, maybe?

 

[Jisun]

Oh I'm not saying that calligraphers and tattoo artists are the same, by any means; but given the nature of the 'artistic' lines in Eastern scripts, and given the way tattoo artists work the inking needles (if you've ever been in a parlor and seen it done), I reckon there are some close parallels sometimes.

I don't really understand what you're trying to say. To me, calligraphy is totally different from doing needlework as a tattoo artist. Yes, they're both means of artistic expression and they both use intricate and artistic lines to convey meaning ad beauty, but... beyond that, I don't see many similarities between the two, sorry.

 

[faroukfarouk]

,,, they both use intricate and artistic lines to convey meaning ad beauty...

I guess this is principally what I mean.

My other observation would be that while in the West, the acts of writing and drawing are somewhat distinct, yet with some Eastern languages the nature of the script can mean that sometimes the distinction between writing and drawing can be blurred, it seems.

And of course, the background and context of Eastern art is often the eternal present.

 

[Jisun]

I guess this is principally what I mean.

My other observation would be that while in the West, the acts of writing and drawing are somewhat distinct, yet with some Eastern languages the nature of the script can mean that sometimes the distinction between writing and drawing can be blurred, it seems.

And of course, the background and context of Eastern art is often the eternal present.

Well, I guess so. the techniques maybe.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Well, I guess so. the techniques maybe.

I just find it interesting, anyway. If one thinks outside the box, one might conclude that what Westerners and people from the East regard as art and writing respectively might not always be identical.

And regarding the background and context of Eastern art, there is a sense in which the oneness of knower and object in the aesthetic continuum raises questions in the minds of Western observers: where exactly is the boundary between art and writing and even religion?