Me, Myself, and I

[mnorian]

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by 'eternal present' and 'blurring of the abstract'

Me neither.

 

[Jesus' Follower]

Thank you!!

My pleasure - if you need anything you know where I am.

 

[mnorian]

Well, to bring it back to language, do you see any link grammatically between the idea of the eternal present and the blurring of the abstract and the representational in Eastern art?

This is probably particularly relevant in Australian aboriginal languages.

If something is in the present that means time wise; but the eternal is timeless so thus there is no eternal present only eternal thereness, so-to-speak; where our savior lives; and to try link that grammatically into Fauvism or Cubism; for example; or Eastern art and Calligraphy or Tattoo artistry is stretching the usage of grammar and the dynamism of abstractionism and representational art which are mutually exclusive in there extreme usage and are not normally used in Calligraphy or the writing of Eastern or Arabic languages.

 

[mnorian]

I loved Calligraphy in art class in school; and think it's terrible that they now do not teach even cursive writing in most American high schools; from what I've heard. Calligraphy of the English language can be very beautiful; I like to watch old movies on TCM; that show actors (probably Calligraphy artist done for the camera) writing in Calligraphy so easily; and it turned the English script into art.

But I may be wrong that Calligraphy and abstract art can't go together; but I did say "normally":

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[mnorian]

Sorry Jisun for your greeting thread to be derailed so much; but I think that is a good thing actually; and some of the best discussions; on CF; happen when the original idea is organically flowed into another topic; as long as the OP (original poster) doesn't mind.

Some forums (here on CF and other sites) are more ridged on this; but CF, as a whole, doesn't seem to mind; which is a good thing; as we are a very large and divergent neighborhood. Peace in Jesus sister!

ps--I think your thread may have set a record for the number of post for an introduction thread!

 

[faroukfarouk]

If something is in the present that means time wise; but the eternal is timeless so thus there is no eternal present only eternal thereness, so-to-speak; where our savior lives; and to try link that grammatically into Fauvism or Cubism; for example; or Eastern art and Calligraphy or Tattoo artistry is stretching the usage of grammar and the dynamism of abstractionism and representational art which are mutually exclusive in there extreme usage and are not normally used in Calligraphy or the writing of Eastern or Arabic languages.

I agree that maybe this discussion as it has developed may be more suitable for another thread; just FYI, this is a link to a current exhibition at Harvard Museums where the 'eternal present' is explored in Australian Aboriginal art: http://www.harvardartmuseums.org/vi...rnal-present-in-indigenous-art-from-australia
and this is a grammatical discussion of the 'eternal present' by linguists: http://aveneca.com/cbb/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4662
But the main purpose of this thread is indeed to welcome Jisun, from Korea!

 

[Jisun]

I agree that maybe this discussion as it has developed may be more suitable for another thread; just FYI, this is a link to a current exhibition at Harvard Museums where the 'eternal present' is explored in Australian Aboriginal art: http://www.harvardartmuseums.org/vi...rnal-present-in-indigenous-art-from-australia
and this is a grammatical discussion of the 'eternal present' by linguists: http://aveneca.com/cbb/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4662
But the main purpose of this thread is indeed to welcome Jisun, from Korea!

Ah. I get what you mean now. Korean perception of time is very different to the Fijian or Hawaiian one, for example. When I went to Fiji, the locals joked that "in Fiji time, there's no time," meaning that everyone chills and even if they have a set appointment with friends, they could be early, late, or very late, and time just wouldn't matter so much to them. Whereas in Korea, China, and Hong Kong, "time is money and money is time" and if you waste time, you waste money. It's very rude to be late to your meetings in Korea and Hong Kong. It's rude to be late to anything. Because everybody's living in a metropolitan city and they run on a fast ticking clock

I don't really know how this relates to Eastern art, though.

 

[Jisun]

I loved Calligraphy in art class in school; and think it's terrible that they now do not teach even cursive writing in most American high schools; from what I've heard. Calligraphy of the English language can be very beautiful; I like to watch old movies on TCM; that show actors (probably Calligraphy artist done for the camera) writing in Calligraphy so easily; and it turned the English script into art.

But I may be wrong that Calligraphy and abstract art can't go together; but I did say "normally":

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Have you seen some of the typography Tumblrs? They have hundreds of beautiful calligraphy and art done with the English alphabet. You should check them out. To start, I've found all the Tumblr posts that have 'calligraphy' tagged to it. https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/calligraphy

haha no worries. I'm glad that my introduction thread made way to a serious debate and discussion.

 

[mnorian]

Have you seen some of the typography Tumblrs? They have hundreds of beautiful calligraphy and art done with the English alphabet. You should check them out. To start, I've found all the Tumblr posts that have 'calligraphy' tagged to it. https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/calligraphy

haha no worries. I'm glad that my introduction thread made way to a serious debate and discussion.

I actually like just classic calligraphy; the beauty of the technique. Here is an article on Tolga Girgin; the Turkish master:

http://calligraphymasters.com/interview-with-calligraphy-artist-tolga-girgin/

 

[Lulav]

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