Mature chat thread..... (2)

[memoriesbymichelle]

Got my shift covered for Supercross, so that's good. We got some money in today so I quickly paid the bills. My boss signed all but one of them and it was for AARP for his dad who is currently out of the country. I'm not going to look for a job until this one is gone. God is my source, not my boss so...
On another note, my son called me today crying because he said he can't join the military because of his stupid stunt at 17 when his friend grabbed some beer and ran out of the store and told my son to drive! and he did. Of course they had the car on video and he was charged but did an aversion program. It still shows apparently on his federal record? And it was explained that he might be able to get a waiver but he could never get "airborne" which is what he wanted, and it would push his leave time to next year. He is crushed about all this. I'm not sure at this point what is exactly on his record and/or what to do about it, if anything. I told him life sucks sometimes and God DOES have a plan for his life. I feel for him. Never in a million years did I think one stupid stunt would be preventing him from joining, so IDK

 

[blackribbon]

He is learning a hard lesson...but learning it young so that he doesn't do anything else stupid that can haunt him. If he is an otherwise good kid, he should get that waiver. Does he have a good recruiter who is going to work to get this dealt with? He might also go get advice from whichever recruiter is the oldest one he can find. I had a friend who was an army recruiter...he knew how to get anyone in as long as he felt he could trust that person in a foxhole with him (his primary requirement). I don't know that you can get around the Airborne thing though especially if there are more wanting those spots than spots open. Tell him to talk to his recruiter about similar less known job options.

You can't get in my nursing school (or most) if you have visible tattoos...some decisions we make affect us in ways we would never expect.

 

[dayhiker]

Yes actions have consequences ... and America with its recorded records being so extensive not leave people with no where to start over. Which I think is really bad.

 

[servantone]

air force Michelle

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

air force Michelle

Air force was his first option, but since he has many visible tats on his forearms, they disqualified him right off the bat so....he can't do airforce.

He also doesn't want to go into the military if he can't get airborne. I talked to him last night and asked if maybe he could ask his recruiter if he goes in without airborne can he get it later after he proves himself to the military, but he said he doesn't want to do that. I don't understand why, but.....

He's going to talk to his recruiter today again and take the paperwork from his incident with him. The thing is he was "referred" to the attorney general for 2 class 1 misdemeanors. One for driving with alcohol and being underage, and the other is for underage drinking. But it clearly states that IF he completes his diversion program (which he did) he will NOT be CHARGED. But I think it will still show that he got "arrested" even though he didn't go to jail. It was a technical arrest.

Last night he said he wanted to sell his car and get a motorcycle and just go to college online and live at home forever. I know he really does NOT want to do that, well he does want to do the car thing, but I told him he can't because he's only had the car 6 months and he probably owes more than it's worth (plus I don't want him to do that). I wouldn't care if he additionally got a motorcycle. But in AZ it's either WAY too hot to ride or really cold. Not very much of a window of nice weather, and I think he needs a car. I'm not worried about his driving or crashing as much as him needing a car more than a bike. I told him I didn't think he was in the right frame of mind ATM to make decisions like this. He just feels lost because he had a plan and now he doesn't. BUT that IS part of growing up, right? As much as I would rather him stay in school and finish that first...my heart did break for him because I knew that he really wanted to do this. There's always a reason....we don't always see it until way later or sometimes never, but there IS always a reason.

 

[servantone]

Air force was his first option, but since he has many visible tats on his forearms, they disqualified him right off the bat so....he can't do airforce.

He also doesn't want to go into the military if he can't get airborne. I talked to him last night and asked if maybe he could ask his recruiter if he goes in without airborne can he get it later after he proves himself to the military, but he said he doesn't want to do that. I don't understand why, but.....

He's going to talk to his recruiter today again and take the paperwork from his incident with him. The thing is he was "referred" to the attorney general for 2 class 1 misdemeanors. One for driving with alcohol and being underage, and the other is for underage drinking. But it clearly states that IF he completes his diversion program (which he did) he will NOT be CHARGED. But I think it will still show that he got "arrested" even though he didn't go to jail. It was a technical arrest.

Last night he said he wanted to sell his car and get a motorcycle and just go to college online and live at home forever. I know he really does NOT want to do that, well he does want to do the car thing, but I told him he can't because he's only had the car 6 months and he probably owes more than it's worth (plus I don't want him to do that). I wouldn't care if he additionally got a motorcycle. But in AZ it's either WAY too hot to ride or really cold. Not very much of a window of nice weather, and I think he needs a car. I'm not worried about his driving or crashing as much as him needing a car more than a bike. I told him I didn't think he was in the right frame of mind ATM to make decisions like this. He just feels lost because he had a plan and now he doesn't. BUT that IS part of growing up, right? As much as I would rather him stay in school and finish that first...my heart did break for him because I knew that he really wanted to do this. There's always a reason....we don't always see it until way later or sometimes never, but there IS always a reason.

sounds tough to be a parent a have to see youngsters learning life lessons because most of us lerned them the hard way.

You are very strong Michelle

 

[blackribbon]

He sounds like he might have romantic and unrealistic vision of what military life is. Maybe this is your answer to prayer. Mom didn't say "no" but his own actions are his roadblock.

Can I suggest that you mention that he could finish his degree and then consider officer candidate school? I am sure that this misdemeanor would not be an issue if he has a clean life since then and a degree in his hand. However, there are many other military jobs that offer the same excitement that airborne school seems to excite in him.

When my husband was a kid, he went to the local Air Force recuiter to enlist. However, that recruiter was out to lunch but the Navy recruiter was there. My hubby spent the next four years working on F-14 Tomcats (fighter jets) on the flight deck of a carrier and got to visit Egypt, Turkey, Italy, and France. He was ready to come home after his four years but he loved his time in the Navy.

 

[dayhiker]

It can be hard sometimes to get into programs in the service once one is in. That's why I always recommend that people get a garentee in writing when they sign up for what they want.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

It can be hard sometimes to get into programs in the service once one is in. That's why I always recommend that people get a garentee in writing when they sign up for what they want.

Yeah, at least I can say that for him, he said he didn't want to sign until he had airborne and ranger school in his contract but the ranger school isn't as important to him.

The hardest part is trying to figure out how to get him to think differently. What I mean by that is, he has this mindset that anytime anything doesn't go his way, his life sucks and he can't be happy. I know I used to be more that way too. It's kind of the WHY ME mindset. Now that I'm older I realize that we live in a broken world and 9 times out of 10 murphy's law will kick in and things will not go as planned or hoped. I told him yesterday that the sooner he figures out that usually something will go wrong in our plans the better off he will be, but I don't think he took it in.

 

[dayhiker]

So last night I went to a dance at the local Italian Restaurant. Turned out I was the only single guy that was dancing. So a very fun night.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

So last night I went to a dance at the local Italian Restaurant. Turned out I was the only single guy that was dancing. So a very fun night.

How many single women were there?

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

So my step daughter finally posted on FB "I'm sorry if it means anything"

I responded and then she called me yesterday to ask if she could use me for a job reference, which was really just an excuse to call and complain about her never ending drama. She left her husband (again) and is sponging off friends in Texas until she can get a job and her own place. She is 35 years old! But she always depends on other people. Oh well glad she doesn't live near me.

On another note but continuing with the drama theme... the sweetest couple in my bible study just quit! Their daughter is marrying the leaders son and apparently they had a "meeting" and the leader and his wife accused them of pushing for the wedding and the house they are buying and meddling and on an on. I don't even want to go to bible study with them not in the group, but for now I can't think of a good "excuse" to quit and I know I "should" be in a group so...

As much as I hate drama, I sure seem to have alot of it in my life lol.

My son is going to talk to his recruiter again today and see if maybe he can join the reserves for now and that will tell him if he even likes the army or not and he's going to take the paperwork from his "incident" to show that he was never even charged. The most it should show on his record is that he was arrested (even though they never took him to jail)

 

[dayhiker]

There were 14 unattached women. One lady I talked but didn't dance with was married, turned out she is a Christian and we talked for like 20 mins about our faith.

I dance with 6 different ladies. Sometimes 2 or 3 at a time, so it was more of a group dance like the ladies often do that are there together.

 

[dayhiker]

Ya, Michelle, that is some drama ... at least it isn't added to the drama in your own home. But we are effected by others drama that we are close to.

 

[dayhiker]

So I had sometime yesterday afternoon to go for a walk. I walked up to the reverser. The sun had set, but it was still so pretty with the light in the sky and shining over the water. I lifted my hands to God and the Spirit arrived while my heart was thankful for all the good things I have and have experienced the last few years. WOW God is good.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

I have been longing lately to just be alone with God enjoying his beauty like a sunset on top of a mountain. Good for you dayhiker, it's SO refreshing to hear.

My son has decided to join the reserves and he talked to his recruiter about it and he agreed. I think he is doing that today. He also talked to his advisor at school about changing his degree and he posted on his FB that he didn't know which he was more excited about...joining the military or becoming a teacher! I am SO happy for him. VERY thankful that he is staying in school now and has a few options. From the military he will get 4500.00 per semester for school PLUS he already has a free ride and then he will get paid like 6G a year from the military and $200.00 for the weekend he serves every month, plus according to him he can take out a 20,000 loan which the military will pay back for him over his 6 year committment. He told me he will probably just quit his job and go to school and do the military thing which is fine by me. I'm SO glad he is excited about his prospects and I'm very proud that he is a responsible person that thinks things thru. So it sounds like the reserves will be better than active duty for now and then if he likes it he can join active later on or not and then he still could be a teacher later. THANK YOU GOD! for answering my prayers.

 

[dayhiker]

May oldest son has been in the army reserve now for 7 years. He generally likes it, sometimes gets frustrated when others aren't as gun ho as he is. But its been good for him. He got thru a hear in Afghanistan OK. Tho misses the adrenaline rush and the comrodery of being over there.

So I agree with you, it should serve him well.

 

[Jenster]

Just dropping in. Hi folks!

What's on my mind today? Well, it's that sometimes it seems like Christians are far less compassionate and understanding than non-Christians. Not saying that about anyone here, mind you! I just run into people who like to apply rules rather than show love, and it's discouraging. Huh.

 

[power2theweak]

Nice to see ya, Jenster!!!

Just dropping in. Hi folks!

What's on my mind today? Well, it's that sometimes it seems like Christians are far less compassionate and understanding than Christians. Not saying that about anyone here, mind you! I just run into people who like to apply rules rather than show love, and it's discouraging. Huh.

 

[dayhiker]

Hi Jenster,
Nice of you to stop by.
I think this is what Jesus was fighting with the Pharisees about. they wanted to apply rules and laws rather that being personally involved in the situation and loving people. I know I've been there in my life in the past. Its so easy to think God knows what's right, He doesn't change and He's not partial in his judgment, so God's morality doesn't have gray areas and He doesn't wink at sin any more so this is the way it is.
But wow, am I finding love is so much better than that. I'm not going back to that legalism again!