MATHEMATICS IN NATURE PROVES INTELLIGENT DESIGN

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Sure, by chat forum posters. You mean by scholars?
It hasn't even been attempted. These three have 300 citations
for you to go through.

The golden ratio predicted: Vision, cognition and locomotion as a single design in nature
A Bejan - International Journal of Design & Nature and …, 2009 - witpress.com
Abstract Shapes with length/height ratios (L/H) close to 3/2 are everywhere and give the
impression that they are being 'designed'to match the golden ratio (φ= 1.618). Here I show
that these shapes emerge as part of an evolutionary phenomenon that facilitates the flow of
Cited by 27

An optimal radial profile order based on the Golden Ratio for time-resolved MRI
S Winkelmann, T Schaeffter, T Koehler… - IEEE transactions on …, 2007 - ieeexplore.ieee.org
... The method acquires profiles spaced by a constant azimuthal increment of 111.25 . This angle is related to the Golden Ratio and causes radial lines to be very evenly spaced with time [15], [16]. A similar pattern can be found in nature: leaves of plants often grow in this particular ...
Cited by 249 - Related articles

Solid-state physics: Golden ratio seen in a magnet
I Affleck - Nature, 2010 - nature.com
According to Albert Einstein's formula E = mc 2 , when several particles form a collective bound state, the mass (m) of the system is reduced from the sum of the constituent masses by the binding energy (E) of the ensemble divided by the square of the speed of light (c). For the strong
Cited by 22 - Related articles

golden ratio in nature - Google Scholar

Seems clear enough to me:

".. these shapes emerge as part of an evolutionary phenomenon..."​

 

[bhsmte]

You missed the negative part.

What is a "negative 1/4th" piece of pizza?

Probably much lower in calories.

 

[SkyWriting]

You missed the negative part.

What is a "negative 1/4th" piece of pizza?

Lord, why do I have to do my brothers homework problems?

"If positive represents movement to the right, negative represents movement to the left.
If positive represents above sea level, then negative represents below level."
From ----> Negative number - Wikipedia

 

[SkyWriting]

Seems clear enough to me:

".. these shapes emerge as part of an evolutionary phenomenon..."​

Which is chock full of numbers
driving the course of change.

 

[SkyWriting]

Nowhere does it state that the math is prescribing these shapes.
The math is our invention and the math describes nature.
And when we hit a wall, guess what we do?
We invent more math!
Just like Newton did when he invented calculus.

No math is invented.
I just demonstrated
how math reflects
reality.

 

[Loudmouth]

No math is invented.
I just demonstrated
how math reflects
reality.

c = 5 m/s

That is math. Does it reflect reality?

 

[SkyWriting]

c = 5 m/s

That is math. Does it reflect reality?

How many more problems did the teacher give you today son?

Weibull density function curves (c = 5 m/s)' from publication
'Wind Power Generation' on ResearchGate

 

[Loudmouth]

I'm tired of doing your homework problems.

If I change Newton's equation for gravitational force, does the gravitational force change to conform to the new equation?

 

[SkyWriting]

If I change Newton's equation for gravitational force, does the gravitational force change to conform to the new equation?

Design of Experiment - Testing a Hypothesis

 

[Loudmouth]

Design of Experiment - Testing a Hypothesis

So you agree that math is descriptive and not prescriptive?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Lord, why do I have to do my brothers homework problems?

"If positive represents movement to the right, negative represents movement to the left.
If positive represents above sea level, then negative represents below level."

Sounds pretty descriptive to me.

However, you didn't answer the question... Please show me minus 0.25 parts of a pizza, as you claimed to be able to.

 

[Radrook]

....how it is perfectly possible to build sound math models that describe a non-existing reality.

Scientists do it all the time.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Which is chock full of numbers
driving the course of change.

There were no numbers until people started to interpret the world using numeric symbols. The paper you linked claims that the 'Golden Ratio phenomenon' is a consequence of the patterns of evolutionary design (in particular the way we visually scan the world).

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Lord, why do I have to do my brothers homework problems?

"If positive represents movement to the right, negative represents movement to the left.
If positive represents above sea level, then negative represents below level.

The key word here is 'represents', making the interpretive nature of it explicit.

 

[SkyWriting]

The key word here is 'represents', making the interpretive nature of it explicit.

All words are like that.
Ideas as well.

 

[SkyWriting]

There were no numbers until people started to interpret the world using numeric symbols. The paper you linked claims that the 'Golden Ratio phenomenon' is a consequence of the patterns of evolutionary design (in particular the way we visually scan the world).

I'm afraid all the pieces of reality were in place for you
to discover. No humans need exist for 1+1 to equal 2.

 

[SkyWriting]

It's hilarious how you are not aware of how it is perfectly possible to build sound math models that describe a non-existing reality.

What you are not aware of, does not define non-existing.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

I'm afraid all the pieces of reality were in place for you
to discover. No humans need exist for 1+1 to equal 2.

Lol! - those two celestial bodies are about to merge; expressed numerically 1 + 1 = 1, but however we interpret it, nature just does what nature does.

 

[Radrook]

Lol! - those two celestial bodies are about to merge; expressed numerically 1 + 1 = 1, but however we interpret it, nature just does what nature does.

Reminds me of this:

Mark 10: …7‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, 8and the two will become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate

Genesis 2:24
For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.
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Atheistically confused?

 

[durangodawood]

All words are like that.
Ideas as well.

Yes!

Words are categories, abstractions. They dont exist 'out there' in the world. They are our tools. Like math!

Map / territory.