Mathematical accuracy of the Bible, why Genesis is more than a little believable!

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Well, in the video, it correlates on more than one level, convincingly, to me.

I will let you with it, my friend, no need to continue in this exchange

 

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Abstraction...ambiguity...do you see the correlation?

There is no natural human language that is only abstract.

There are languges that are only primitive and languages that are advanced (containing both primitive and abstract concepts). Even in Greek/German/Latin/Chinese you need to say "give me three apples".

Abstraction is something that is added, a higher level of language. The basic level for a daily life still exists.

 

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There is no natural human language that is only abstract.

There are languges that are only primitive and languages that are advanced (containing both primitive and abstract concepts). Even in Greek/German/Latin/Chinese you need to say "three apples".

Abstraction is something that is added, a higher level of language. The basic level for a daily life still exists.

Sometimes simpler is more complex...

 

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Sometimes simpler is more complex...

But if you have just simple vocabulary and must describe something complex, it produces ambiguous, bad description.

When primitive nations saw a white man for the first time, with all the technology (guns, airplanes, lighters etc), they could not even comprehend what it is, not to say describe it properly. Airplane was a thunder bird etc. Now, if you would read in the Bible "there was a thunder bird in heavens", you would get a very ambiguous, mysterious and confused idea. And if you would take it literally (as many Christians do)... hm, what would you get...

 

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There are languges that are only primitive and languages that are advanced

The language in the garden, was it more primitive or more advanced than Greek?

 

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The language in the garden, was it more primitive or more advanced than Greek?

More primitive. Languages develop in time, as more and more concepts are needed to be expressed.

 

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But if you have just simple vocabulary and must describe something complex, it produces ambiguous, bad description.

When primitive nations saw a white man for the first time, with all the technology (guns, airplanes, lighters etc), they could not even comprehend what it is, not to say describe it properly. Airplane was a thunder bird etc. Now, if you would read in the Bible "there was a thunder bird in heavens", you would get a very ambiguous, mysterious and confused idea. And if you would take it literally (as many Christians do)... hm, what would you get...

Any specific examples from Scripture?

 

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More primitive. Languages develop in time, as more and more concepts are needed to be expressed.

So you believe language is evolving?

 

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Any specific examples from Scripture?

A ladder to heavens Jacob saw.

 

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A ladder to heavens Jacob saw.

What does the original text say?

 

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So you believe language is evolving?

A language is accomodating to a need of a society. If you need to express more, the language will evolve. If you need to say less, the language can atrophy.

 

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What does the original text say?

We do not have the original text...

 

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More primitive. Languages develop in time, as more and more concepts are needed to be expressed.

More concepts, as in, more ways to get around the simplicity of life?

 

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More concepts, as in, more ways to get around the simplicity of life?

Yes, if you need to express more than just some daily agricultural/hunting activity, you will need more concepts and you will need to make your language more advanced, in time.

 

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A language is accomodating to a need of a society. If you need to express more, the language will evolve. If you need to say less, the language can atrophy.

Maybe the serpent taught Eve a new language...new concepts to circumvent what the Creator had said...

 

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Maybe the serpent taught Eve a new language...new concepts to circumvent what the Creator had said...

And maybe it was not a serpent at all.

 

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We do not have the original text...

Well, we can find out the Hebrew word for what they translated as "ladder".

*The Paleo Hebrew used pictographs that may give insight.

 

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Well, we can find out the Hebrew word for what they translated as "ladder".

*The Paleo Hebrew used pictographs that may give insight.

And...? We still have a "thunder bird" type of description.

 

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And maybe it was not a serpent at all.

Yeah, that's true...we got to go back, closer to the source.

 

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And maybe it was not a serpent at all.

So, why not take it to the Greek for better understanding?