Masturbation... is it wrong?

[BeamMeUpScotty]

Marital Neglect.
Some people prefer masturbation over the actual act of sex because it's all about pleasing self and you don't have to worry how the partner is doing.

I know nobody who prefers touching yourself over the actual act, unless of course that particular couple is having difficulties. I always prefer the "actual" act over touching yourself. If someone goes on a business trip, isn't it better for him/her to "vent" his/her pent up energy via touching yourself than by seeking out an adulterous affair?

 

[Chavez]

It is better for him to wait and exercise self-control

 

[Salubri]

why should he have to wait instead of using what nature gave him? Becuase a certain interpretation of the bible said so?

 

[BeamMeUpScotty]

why should he have to wait instead of using what nature gave him? Becuase a certain interpretation of the bible said so?

Because:

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite....

STOP! STOP! STOP!
This is getting quite silly now. Now, nobody likes a good laugh more than I do, well maybe my mother, and well ok maybe everyone likes a good laugh more than I do, but I still say this is too silly!

 

[Chavez]

Nature gave us the ability to kill another person...
and to sin uncontrollably..
does this make it right?
I venture to suggest it doesn't

 

[BeamMeUpScotty]

Nature gave us the ability to kill another person...
and to sin uncontrollably..
does this make it right?
I venture to suggest it doesn't

But how does touching yourself hurt anyone/anything? How is it a "sin"?

Until relatively recently, eating meat on Fridays was a sin for Catholics, now it's not. Who gets to decide what actions (that don't harm anyone/thing) are sins?

 

[Friendly Eagle]

John 2:16-17, NIV. "For everything in the world—the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does—comes not from the Father but from the world. The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever."

Matthew 5:28, TLB. "But I say: Anyone who even looks at a woman with lust in his eye has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

 

[Salubri]

ok...so you equate killing...wioth masturbation....


uhh...Why?

How is taking a life and giving yourself an [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] in the same category.......unless you are a necrophilliac but I aint gonna go there

 

[Friendly Eagle]

Read my above quotes and tell me this again. It is a sin. Lust is a sin!

I'm not trying to make fun of you but, this sounds like, "I cry everytime I touch."

 

[BeamMeUpScotty]

John 2:16-17, NIV. "For everything in the world—the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does—comes not from the Father but from the world. The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever."

Matthew 5:28, TLB. "But I say: Anyone who even looks at a woman with lust in his eye has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

So you can't find a single version of the Bible to base your "arguments" on? I mean if the Bibles don't agree, how can anyone else?

Now, I don't want to make this a straw-man argument because choice of a certain translation of the Bible as the "correct" one is material for a different thread. But, what if a man/woman is away on a business trip for several weeks and deeply misses his/her spouse. S/he either imagines/calls his/her spouse and masterbates. How is that wrong?

 

[jcinmyheart]

I would like to give my testimony on this issue, sorry that it's a little long.

I recently have become free of the bondage of this sin, having struggled with it for 10 years of my Christian life.

I now know I can stand against it no matter what temptations and justifications come, such as "it's okay, doesn't hurt", "it's not really a sin", "you can do it this time without the sinful thoughts" and many other reasons why it’s okay. I have changed my mind to be resolute that no matter what, I will not do it (true repentance).

No matter how hard I tried to block out the unrighteous sexual images in my head, they would manage to slip in anyway – it was like opening the door of my mind to very questionable thoughts. Thus for me, it was always a sin.

It had all the marks of the enemy – temptations, deception then finally heavy condemnation when done. The nature of bondage is that it bothers you, but you submit to it anyway, it has become your master and you it’s slave.

Although God always forgave me, I suffered spiritually for this I believe, feeling weighed down and discouraged, being an easy target for enemy attack, it wore down my faith. Since being delivered, I feel lighter, free and closer to Jesus than ever before now that I have submitted all my “body, mind & soul” to him. I feel like He’s saying “that’s it, now you’re walking right”.

And I tell you what, as soon as I renounced this sin in my life, my sex life with my husband became so much more intimate and pleasurable. This is something God has done – I can’t explain how good it is. We always had it good, as we love and serve each other under Christ, but now our sexual intimacy has been amplified, and I know it directly relates to my victory – thank you Lord!

Masturbation is like a cheap nasty substitute for the real thing. It can never reach the heights that a righteous sexual relationship does. Although the body function is the same, without the soul, mind, spirit union in the heights of affection for your spouse, it just does not compare.

God designed our sexual pleasure for this special relationship. Outside of this, it becomes a self-serving chase after short-lived pleasure, and leaves one very open to sinful lust. But I know how much harder it is for those who don’t have that special spouse. For such people I say, submit your body to God and find your intimacies with Jesus to replace those other desires.

“Lord Jesus, I confess that I have attempted to satisfy my lustful desires and polluted my body, soul, and spirit. Thank You for cleansing me and for Your forgiveness. I renounce any satanic bonds I have allowed in my life through the unrighteous use of my body and mind. Lord, I commit myself to destroy any objects in my possession that I have used for sexual stimulation, and to turn away from all media that are associated with sexual sin. I commit myself to the renewing of my mind and thinking pure thoughts. Fill me with Your Holy Spirit so that I may not carry out the desires of the flesh. In Jesus’ name I pray. Amen.”

 

[Lokisdottir]

Marital Neglect.
Some people prefer masturbation over the actual act of sex because it's all about pleasing self and you don't have to worry how the partner is doing.

Being married doesn't mean you have to drop whatever you're doing and get busy every time your partner is "in the mood." If that's the case, it becomes a chore rather than a pleasure.

There will be times when one partner is in the mood while the other just wants to finish the book they're reading. There's nothing wrong with that, and there's nothing wrong if the first partner decides to take care of it on their own. It's better than going out and finding somebody else, isn't it?

 

[Spyr]

Masturbation is like a cheap nasty substitute for the real thing. It can never reach the heights that a righteous sexual relationship does. Although the body function is the same, without the soul, mind, spirit union in the heights of affection for your spouse, it just does not compare.

Then you weren't doing it well enough. My love and I sometimes to engage in masturbation with each other and it's just as good as anything else. If you know and respect your body then the heights reached are the same no matter what you do.

 

[Chrysalis Kat]

I would like to give my testimony on this issue, sorry that it's a little long. I recently have become free of the bondage of this sin, having struggled with it for 10 years of my Christian life.

Do come back in 10 years and tell us how that's working for you.

 

[flicka]

I just realized that many teenage boys and young men label themselves 'addicted' when they are not. I think that term get thrown around too easily, especially when talking about a physical process such as puberty and the resulting hormonal changes that cause erections and sexual desire.

 

[scham]

It is better for him to wait and exercise self-control

I think I have to agree with Chavez,
It has also been known to be the cause of many marrage break ups due to the one of the couple getting addicted

 

[Lokisdottir]

I think I have to agree with Chavez,
It has also been known to be the cause of many marrage break ups due to the one of the couple getting addicted

I just realized that many teenage boys and young men label themselves 'addicted' when they are not. I think that term get thrown around too easily, especially when talking about a physical process such as puberty and the resulting hormonal changes that cause erections and sexual desire.

If you like to do something, find it to be pleasurable, and would have difficulty stopping, that does not necessarily mean you are addicted. I would have just as much difficulty quitting eating chocolate as I would quitting certain other activities, but no one is accusing me of being addicted to chocolate.

Actually, eating chocolate can be considered worse because there are real, physical consequences to doing it too much, especially if it's to the exclusion of other foods.

 

[Chavez]

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[Chavez]

I would like to give my testimony on this issue, sorry that it's a little long.

I recently have become free of the bondage of this sin, having struggled with it for 10 years of my Christian life.

I now know I can stand against it no matter what temptations and justifications come, such as "it's okay, doesn't hurt", "it's not really a sin", "you can do it this time without the sinful thoughts" and many other reasons why it’s okay. I have changed my mind to be resolute that no matter what, I will not do it (true repentance).

No matter how hard I tried to block out the unrighteous sexual images in my head, they would manage to slip in anyway – it was like opening the door of my mind to very questionable thoughts. Thus for me, it was always a sin.

It had all the marks of the enemy – temptations, deception then finally heavy condemnation when done. The nature of bondage is that it bothers you, but you submit to it anyway, it has become your master and you it’s slave.

Although God always forgave me, I suffered spiritually for this I believe, feeling weighed down and discouraged, being an easy target for enemy attack, it wore down my faith. Since being delivered, I feel lighter, free and closer to Jesus than ever before now that I have submitted all my “body, mind & soul” to him. I feel like He’s saying “that’s it, now you’re walking right”.

And I tell you what, as soon as I renounced this sin in my life, my sex life with my husband became so much more intimate and pleasurable. This is something God has done – I can’t explain how good it is. We always had it good, as we love and serve each other under Christ, but now our sexual intimacy has been amplified, and I know it directly relates to my victory – thank you Lord!

Masturbation is like a cheap nasty substitute for the real thing. It can never reach the heights that a righteous sexual relationship does. Although the body function is the same, without the soul, mind, spirit union in the heights of affection for your spouse, it just does not compare.

God designed our sexual pleasure for this special relationship. Outside of this, it becomes a self-serving chase after short-lived pleasure, and leaves one very open to sinful lust. But I know how much harder it is for those who don’t have that special spouse. For such people I say, submit your body to God and find your intimacies with Jesus to replace those other desires.

“Lord Jesus, I confess that I have attempted to satisfy my lustful desires and polluted my body, soul, and spirit. Thank You for cleansing me and for Your forgiveness. I renounce any satanic bonds I have allowed in my life through the unrighteous use of my body and mind. Lord, I commit myself to destroy any objects in my possession that I have used for sexual stimulation, and to turn away from all media that are associated with sexual sin. I commit myself to the renewing of my mind and thinking pure thoughts. Fill me with Your Holy Spirit so that I may not carry out the desires of the flesh. In Jesus’ name I pray. Amen.”

I for one thoroughly enjoyed that.
Than you!

 

[Spyr]

I think I have to agree with Chavez,
It has also been known to be the cause of many marrage break ups due to the one of the couple getting addicted

Are you talking about being addicted to masturbation? Listen, I've been addicted to drugs, to alcohol and to gambling. Being addicted to masturbation is kind of extreme. If someone is addicted to masturbation then I'm inclined to say that there is another problem aside from "self-abuse".