Masturbation... is it wrong?

[IcarusFell]

that means that some people in todays world think rape is ok if it is done under certain conditions. Would this be if everyone was taught any type of sex outside of marriage is wrong.

I hadn't heard that figure about 6 months. I heard a very similar one that stated high school boys thought it was okay if a husband forces his wife to have sex.

That's rape, too.

And I do think it would still be that way if everyone was taught sex outside of marriage is wrong.

And how is masturbation sex?? Self-sex, maybe...

 

[Chavez]

Nobody ever taught me anything on the topic of masturbation except God.
If you like, you could say I'm self educated.
What I say are my opinions on the issue.


Not maybe,.....surely.
There's no point in tryin to justify masturbation when we all know it's wrong.
That's exactly why this thread came about.

 

[MQTA]

obviously we don't all know it's wrong, and there sure is a lot more of it going on than we could ever imagine.

it's a real personal thing most people wouldn't dare talk about in mixed company or with very few people

people won't admit some things

that's their choice

it's your body, do what you want with it, you don't have to justify your decisions to anyone else, nor will you convince anyone else to stop, or start, depending which it is they Claim

 

[IcarusFell]

Nobody ever taught me anything on the topic of masturbation except God.
If you like, you could say I'm self educated.
What I say are my opinions on the issue.


Not maybe,.....surely.
There's no point in tryin to justify masturbation when we all know it's wrong. That's exactly why this thread came about.

(emphasis added)


No one is lying. There is no need to justify masturbation, because it is not a sin. It is not wrong, and teaching that is just silly.

 

[Salubri]

Ok, that type of situation might take awhile, so i will give you a satistic that i have read. I do not know where the survey was taken, but i believe it said an American high school.

it read 'over 50% of teenage boys think it is ok to force sex on the female if they have been dating over 6 months.'

Ok...but wat did this topic have to do witth masturbation? And if you are trying to say teen boys who touch are more likely to force sex then you have a causallity falalcy on your hands. Perhaps those boy should touch more so they wouldnt be prone to sex.

I;ve seen many a christian society/family/school where masturbation became so tboo. looked upon and repressed that they boys turned to sex instead of self release. And I live in a HEAVILY christian area.

There's no point in tryin to justify masturbation when we all know it's wrong

uh, no, we don;t know it is all wrong....YOU beleive it is wrong from your interpretation of scripture.

Maybe if things weren't so "Taboo" or "forbidden" and looked down upon and repressed....kids wouldn't get so maladjusted. If kids are taught about sex, masturbation and learn its a normal and natural part of life, not a sin or something to ashamed of, then maybe it wouldnt become such a big deal, because we all know rebellious teens are drawn more to what their parents say is forbidden, because of the mystique of "coolness" it implies. Thats why many kids when I was in highschol smoked and drank, because it was forbidden.



Meh...I forgot where I am going with this, and I know it is pretty much useless to try to talk to mamny of you guys on subjects like these.

 

[KuronekoAlchemist]

Masturbation rules!!

 

[]RiSeN[]

Masturbation rules!!

I think we all know how 'your love' life is going then dont we.

 

[KuronekoAlchemist]

No. I just felt like saying that. It can be wrong at times.

 

[Chavez]

Just because we are given sex ed in school doesn't justify the fact that sex outside marriage is right.
And yes I do believe masturbation is wrong....not because what you are doing physically to your own body is harming it...but it's what's inside that counts.
What's in your heart..and what you fix your mind on whilst carryin out the act.

MQTA - Yes we do have to give an account of ourselves before God. It's not our body. We cannot do what we want with it.
We are the vessels of God; we do only what glorifies Him.

 

[Ninja Turtles]

I think we all know how 'your love' life is going then dont we.

Another misconception, only single people touch...

 

[]RiSeN[]

Another misconception, only single people touch...

If both are readily available, why choose masturbation over sexual intercourse then? If you need to have an [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] 16 times a day*, you should be with someone who shares your nymphomania. People attempt to speak of masurbation as just 'being honest' with ones self and desires, why not really be honest with yourself and your partner, rather than lock yourself in the bathroom 16 times a day*.


*-frequency subject to change.

 

[lawtonfogle]

If both are readily available, why choose masturbation over sexual intercourse then? If you need to have an [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] 16 times a day*, you should be with someone who shares your nymphomania. People attempt to speak of masurbation as just 'being honest' with ones self and desires, why not really be honest with yourself and your partner, rather than lock yourself in the bathroom 16 times a day*.


*-frequency subject to change.

not trying to offend, but someone like that needs to go see a doctor.

 

[Sartre]

Living is a sin as I understand it.

The 'way' we live it might be, if 'sin' was an aspect of living worth discussing in the first place.... sin is a empty word used to keep people in bondage.

 

[Friendly Eagle]

I believe that touching yourself while watching or thinking about a female or male is a sin because its lustfulness. I do it and I am a sinner. I ask for forgiveness after I do it each time. I am having a hard time stopping.

 

[RoboMastodon]

I believe that touching yourself while watching or thinking about a female or male is a sin because its lustfulness. I do it and I am a sinner. I ask for forgiveness after I do it each time. I am having a hard time stopping.

I'm not surprised. It's not like you can just shut off your libido. Sexuality is one of the reasons I think why certain religions are psychologically harmful. Perpetual self-denial of basic human impulses that do not inflict any harm upon others can only lead to psychological harm.

 

[]RiSeN[]

I'm not surprised. It's not like you can just shut off your libido. Sexuality is one of the reasons I think why certain religions are psychologically harmful. Perpetual self-denial of basic human impulses that do not inflict any harm upon others can only lead to psychological harm.

Or you could just follow the teachings of the bible and wait till marriage, then you dont have to worry about repressing anything. I reject your hedonistic assumption that self discipline and self control are psychologicaly harmful. Thats garbage. Should someone kill, rape, lie, or commit adultery simply because it was his first impulse?

How does temporarily relieving ones 'human impulses' equate to long term 'psychological good'?

 

[RoboMastodon]

Or you could just follow the teachings of the bible and wait till marriage, then you dont have to worry about repressing anything. I reject your hedonistic assumption that self discipline and self control are psychologicaly harmful. Thats garbage. Should someone kill, rape, lie, or commit adultery simply because it was his first impulse?

How does temporarily relieving ones 'human impulses' equate to long term 'psychological good'?

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Perpetual self-denial of basic human impulses that do not inflict any harm upon others can only lead to psychological harm.

Edit - there is evidence that shows sex/masturbation is good against inability to sleep, reduces stress, and stimulates and strengthens the immune system.

 

[]RiSeN[]

How does temporarily relieving ones 'human impulses' equate to long term 'psychological good'?

Please answer the question.

 

[RoboMastodon]

Please answer the question.

there is evidence that shows sex/masturbation is good against inability to sleep, reduces stress, and stimulates and strengthens the immune system.

Not necessarily saying it brings "long-term psychological good" just saying that self-denial causes "psychological harm" (unless you're considering "absence of harm" to be "good"). It brings perpetual feelings of unnecessary guilt, which could in turn bring on other problems which depend on the individual.

 

[]RiSeN[]

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Edit - there is evidence that shows sex/masturbation is good against inability to sleep, reduces stress, and stimulates and strengthens the immune system.

How is the fact that the sideffects of masturbation are similar to the benifits of sexual intercourse make it "Ok"?