Mary - Queen Of Heaven (2)

[Thekla]

Armenian genocide?

Peace

yes, thank-you, LionRoar

and it makes me wonder about calling each other "not quite a real Christian".

Central America
Sudan
Kenya

 

[lionroar0]

Ok, bro. I still love ya... even more than I love Google (those commie huggers).
I just remembered Sammy Davis Jr. hugging Richard Nixon! ROFL!

May have been nothing. darn commies.LOL

Peace

 

[lionroar0]

yes, thank-you, LionRoar

and it makes me wonder about calling each other "not quite a real Christian".

Central America
Sudan
Kenya

I'm currently reading up on the history of Armenia. :

Peace

 

[Thekla]

I'm currently reading up on the history of Armenia. :

Peace

don't use Microsoft's bundled encyclopedia

 

[lionroar0]

Our Lady of Fatima. I found it!!! It's a Catholic Church!!!! YAY!!!

Okay now I have to go to work.

Peace

 

[lionroar0]

Something got messed up. It doesn't matter.

God Bless

Sure did.

Peace

 

[lionroar0]

don't use Microsoft's bundled encyclopedia

LOL.

The book I'm reading is "The Armenian People, From Ancient to Modern Times." vol 2

Skipped vol 1

Peace

 

[E.C.]

I'm currently reading up on the history of Armenia. :

Peace

Armenians have an interesting history.

What's worth noting, is that it was not solely Armenians being killed from 1915-22. The Assyrians of northern Iraq were being decimated. The Pontic Greeks (northeast Anatolia) who had been in that region for roughly 3,000 years were also killed in mass numbers. I believe the last place in Turkey that had any large Greek population was in Smyrna. What happened to it? Leveled in 1922.

And what did the Western World do? Stand and watch.

Sorry if I sound bitter, but times like this in history just tick me off.

 

[lionroar0]

And what did the Western World do? Stand and watch.

Sorry if I sound bitter, but times like this in history just tick me off.

I can understand why.

Peace

 

[Catholic Christian]

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HERE IS THE ORIGINAL OP:
Mary - Queen Of Heaven


What then does it mean for Mary to be the Queen of Heaven? Well, in the Old Testament monarchy the Queen of the Davidic Kingdom was the Queen Mother. The Kings, for reasons of state and human weakness, had many wives, none of whom fittingly could be called Queen. That honor was reserved for the mother of the King, whose authority far surpassed the many "queens" married to the king. We see this in the history of Middle Eastern nations of the time. We specifically see this is the role Bathsheba played with respect to King Solomon and the occasions when the Queen Mother acted as regent on behalf of juvenile successors to the throne. Remember, the Jews wanted a king in order to be “like all nations”. Thus, following the models of the neighboring lands, they established a dynasty, a legal system, a royal court – and a queen mother. She was the “Gebirah” – Great Lady.

The role of the Queen Mother, therefore, is a prophetic type of the Kingdom role of Mary, just as the role of the Davidic King is a prophetic type of the Kingdom role of Jesus. Jesus inherited the Kingdom promised to David, who was told that one of his descendants would rule forever. The angel Gabriel revealed this fact to Mary at her Annunciation: “Behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name him Jesus. He will be great and will be called Son of the Most High, and the Lord God will give him the throne of David his father, and he will rule over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end." (Luke 1:31-33)


Aside from the prophetic types present in the Kingdom of Judah, there is also the text of Psalm 45, which when speaking of the Kingdom of God also speaks of its Queen.

[6] Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. [7] Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. [8] All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad. [9] Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir. [10] Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house; [11] So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him. (Psalm 45:6-11, KJV)

That Kingdom ruled by God is the same as the Kingdom ruled eternally by the Son of David. It is not an earthly kingdom (though it is present on earth in the Church) but rather a heavenly kingdom, the Kingdom of God. The Queen of that Kingdom is the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of the Lord God Jesus Christ. The Jews who knew Jesus would have understood this perfectly. Jesus is “Son of David” who would inherit the throne of David. And who would inherit the throne at his side, the seat of the Queen Mother? His mother, of course.

I would like to mention two great resources:

1) An mp3 link of Dr. Scott Hahn discussing Mariology, and his book "Hail Holy Queen" on an episode of "Catholic Answers Live":
http://www.catholic.com/audio/2000/mp3/ca001129.mp3


2) The actual book, "Hail Holy Queen" by Dr. Scott Hahn

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Justs a reminder of the OP

 

[Catholic Christian]

Armenians have an interesting history.

What's worth noting, is that it was not solely Armenians being killed from 1915-22. The Assyrians of northern Iraq were being decimated. The Pontic Greeks (northeast Anatolia) who had been in that region for roughly 3,000 years were also killed in mass numbers. I believe the last place in Turkey that had any large Greek population was in Smyrna. What happened to it? Leveled in 1922.

And what did the Western World do? Stand and watch.

Sorry if I sound bitter, but times like this in history just tick me off.

And you see what what happens when we DO do something, like in Iraq? We get hated and protested against.

 

[Rick Otto]

Yeah, blame the West.
What has the East "stood by and watched"?

 

[NoDoubt]

I love this!!!

Have a good weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWUp6ElRayE&feature=related

 

[Rick Otto]

I love this!!!

Have a good weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWUp6ElRayE&feature=related

Me too.

 

[Catholic Christian]

This thread was split automatically after 1000 replies and this thread has been automatically created.
The old thread automatically closed is here: "Mary - Queen Of Heaven"

HERE IS THE ORIGINAL OP:
Mary - Queen Of Heaven


What then does it mean for Mary to be the Queen of Heaven? Well, in the Old Testament monarchy the Queen of the Davidic Kingdom was the Queen Mother. The Kings, for reasons of state and human weakness, had many wives, none of whom fittingly could be called Queen. That honor was reserved for the mother of the King, whose authority far surpassed the many "queens" married to the king. We see this in the history of Middle Eastern nations of the time. We specifically see this is the role Bathsheba played with respect to King Solomon and the occasions when the Queen Mother acted as regent on behalf of juvenile successors to the throne. Remember, the Jews wanted a king in order to be “like all nations”. Thus, following the models of the neighboring lands, they established a dynasty, a legal system, a royal court – and a queen mother. She was the “Gebirah” – Great Lady.

The role of the Queen Mother, therefore, is a prophetic type of the Kingdom role of Mary, just as the role of the Davidic King is a prophetic type of the Kingdom role of Jesus. Jesus inherited the Kingdom promised to David, who was told that one of his descendants would rule forever. The angel Gabriel revealed this fact to Mary at her Annunciation: “Behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name him Jesus. He will be great and will be called Son of the Most High, and the Lord God will give him the throne of David his father, and he will rule over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end." (Luke 1:31-33)


Aside from the prophetic types present in the Kingdom of Judah, there is also the text of Psalm 45, which when speaking of the Kingdom of God also speaks of its Queen.

[6] Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. [7] Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. [8] All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad. [9] Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir. [10] Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house; [11] So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him. (Psalm 45:6-11, KJV)

That Kingdom ruled by God is the same as the Kingdom ruled eternally by the Son of David. It is not an earthly kingdom (though it is present on earth in the Church) but rather a heavenly kingdom, the Kingdom of God. The Queen of that Kingdom is the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of the Lord God Jesus Christ. The Jews who knew Jesus would have understood this perfectly. Jesus is “Son of David” who would inherit the throne of David. And who would inherit the throne at his side, the seat of the Queen Mother? His mother, of course.

I would like to mention two great resources:

1) An mp3 link of Dr. Scott Hahn discussing Mariology, and his book "Hail Holy Queen" on an episode of "Catholic Answers Live":
http://www.catholic.com/audio/2000/mp3/ca001129.mp3


2) The actual book, "Hail Holy Queen" by Dr. Scott Hahn

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op

 

[NoDoubt]

op

It had everything to do with the op

 

[Catholic Christian]

I see. Salve Regina.
okay

 

[LLWHA]

Why don't you tell it to the presbyterians? It's their church.


Peace

I do not care whose church it is.

I do not go in them no mater whose they are.

 

[Catholic Christian]

I do not care whose church it is.

I do not go in them in mater whose they are.

huh?

 

[E.C.]

And you see what what happens when we DO do something, like in Iraq? We get hated and protested against.

Timing is critical. Now was not the time for going into Iraq.

1915-1922 was the time for going into Turkey.

Yeah, blame the West.
What has the East "stood by and watched"?

Sorry, the East was too busy trying to get out of Ottoman dictatorships.