Marriage

[DogmaHunter]

Many are called but few are chosen. Strait is the gate and narrow the way and few there are who find it.

What they identify as being, whether Christian, Communist, or Cabbage, means nothing.

Gotta love how every time it is brought up that not all christians believe the same things, there come the no-true-scottsman fallacies….

 

[DogmaHunter]

So apparently you've drifted away from the church that your German forefathers believed in?

Because they followed the Bible and did not believe in gay marriage. Never would have even thought about it actually.

M-Bob

If he's German, then his forefathers were Germanic Pagans. ;-)

 

[Mountainmanbob]

I can only talk about the believers I know and what our local pastor says. And he accepts gay people and doesn't call us abomination every 5 seconds.

You got us curious now what church would that be in Germany that supports gay marriage?

We already see that this is where the world is headed and apparently some churches are going to follow?

M-Bob

 

[Desk trauma]

There are plenty of places besides the church that will marry them since in many states it is now legal.

All fifty, and the territories as well, actually.

 

[Desk trauma]

Christians who approve of gay marriage???

Actually, that would be very few.

My guess is 5%.

On the off chance you want data rather than guesses, here you go.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

All fifty, and the territories as well, actually.

So why insist on being married in a church?

Don't get me wrong I've known gay people at work that were married. I still love them.

Couldn't have them as roommates.

M-Bob

 

[Desk trauma]

So why insist on being married in a church?

You would have to ask them.

 

[dreadnought]

u dont know what the lord wants thats what ive been getting at this bible was made many many years ago by someone influenced by god...some serial killers say theyre influenced by god does that make what they write and do to others is just? being gay is natural nothing in the system causes ppl to be gay and the bible never says why its a sin, every other animal have gay couples but we are the odd ones out. if a christian is gay and is happy being gay why stop it? its not hurting anyone and i dont see why its a sin, the ancient Egyptians did it, Catholics did it, even Christians in the old days ESPECIALLY THEN its been going on since the beginning. opinions change from the time u were a kid to now ur opinions change everyones opinions change to match up with the modern day. so why not gods? yall dont know what god wants and no one can say what he wants but himself.

Actually, we know very well what the Lord wants. Isn't that the purpose of the Bible?

 

[bhsmte]

Should gay/lesbian marriage be preformed by the church

That would be up, to each church to decide.

 

[dreadnought]

Quite a few believers have a different interpretation so it isn't as clear as you make it out to be.

How many ways are there to interpret this?:

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. Leviticus 18:22 RSV

 

[Mountainmanbob]

How many ways are there to interpret this?:
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. Leviticus 18:22 RSV

Something tells me that ain't rocket science there.
M-Bob

 

[dreadnought]

Something tells me that ain't rocket science there.
M-Bob

It doesn't seem so to me.

 

[salt-n-light]

Should gay/lesbian marriage be preformed by the church

No.

With that said I know there is an understanding when it comes to being able to sign paperwork, and in that case idk why people couldn't just go to court and get the paperwork. But in terms of ceremony, the church shouldn't be obligated to do things that are against its scriptural teachings. There are plenty of other picturesque options people can use without conflict.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Should gay/lesbian marriage be preformed by the church

That would presumably depend on "the church" you are referring to. Some churches are not opposed to same-sex marriage, so presumably they would have no issue performing such a ceremony.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Of course if they are religious, there is nothing wrong with being gay.

Our Church would never marry them.

If so we would find a new church.

Do you honestly think Paul who wrote most of the New Testament would have married a couple of gay people?

An honest answer their should give one their answer?

Of course new man thinks he is so much knew better.

M-Bob

 

[Theo Barnsley]

Many people went astray or added to Bible , removed from it or made traditions over time but God does not change and his word stays .

If god does not change, & his word stays, why do christians no longer follow all 613 commandments in the old testament law? They were after all the 'word of god' but christians seem to think god changed his mind & these laws no longer apply.

 

[Theo Barnsley]

Christians who approve of gay marriage???

Actually, that would be very few.

My guess is 5%.

And apparently this 5% call themselves Christian but, do not abide by the Bible. God's Word spoken to us. Maybe most of this 5% are not really Christians? Jesus said, if you love me you will keep the Commandments.

M-Bob

God gave Moses 613 commandments. I wonder how many of them you keep? Maybe you dont love jesus as much as you think you do!

 

[Theo Barnsley]

How many ways are there to interpret this?: You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. Leviticus 18:22 RSV

Eating unclean things is also an abomination, which includes shellfish, pork and etc.

 

[Theo Barnsley]

Of course if they are religious, there is nothing wrong with being gay.

There is nothing wrong with being gay if you arent religious either.

 

[Theo Barnsley]

Should gay/lesbian marriage be preformed by the church

60 years ago most churches wouldnt marry inter-racial couples, now most will. The church eventually has to catch up & accept changing societal values, or it becones irrelevent. The majority of churches now ignores most of the 613 commandments in the bible. Same sex marriage is its last main holdout, but this will change with the majority of churches in the next 20 years, & it will be accepted, like most of the other societal changes that have evolved in the last 2000 years.

The early christian church was more than happy to combine pagan beliefs into its doctrine, & jettison most jewish beliefs, in order to win over gentiles. The majority of christians already support SSM.