Marriage

[X-Ray]

Should gay/lesbian marriage be preformed by the church

 

[Chinchilla]

Church is people not building so your question is invalid friend .
Moreover marriage is performed by God who is joining two people together not by people .

 

[X-Ray]

Church is people not building so your question is invalid friend .
Moreover marriage is performed by God who is joining two people together not by people .

yeah ik that church is people not building thats y im asking if it should be acknowledged and performed BY the church which u still havent answered and yeah ik about that too but to get married u NEED a priest supposedly, without this priest ur marriage is invalid and supposedly will not be acknowledged by god until u do get this priest now i ask u again....

 

[Chinchilla]

yeah ik that church is people not building thats y im asking if it should be acknowledged and performed BY the church which u still havent answered and yeah ik about that too but to get married u NEED a priest supposedly, without this priest ur marriage is invalid and supposedly will not be acknowledged by god until u do get this priest now i ask u again....

No you don't need priest . You vow before God. Boy make vow to God that he want to take Girl as bride , she make vow to God that she is taking Boy as bridgegroom and if Father of that Girl allows her to do so they are considered bridgegroom and bride. When bridgegroom takes bride to his house and to his room which he has prepared/build/added to his house and they have sex they become one flesh joined by God .

Biblicall marriage.
There is no priest giving marriage in the Bible i don't know where you found that idea perhaps from observing world and making conclusions . Many people went astray or added to Bible , removed from it or made traditions over time but God does not change and his word stays .

 

[com7fy8]

If people want to get married but they are not Christians, they can be pronounced by whoever is authorized in a country to do secular weddings. In the United States, I think any adult can be authorized to pronounce a couple.

I would say that a group who goes by the Bible is not obligated to pronounce people who do not follow Jesus.

And following Jesus includes >

"And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful." (Colossians 3:15)

"'Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.'" (Matthew 11:29)

So, if we care about a couple we will test them in counseling, about if they are obeying how our Heavenly Father personally rules them with His own peace in their hearts, and if they are learning how to live with "rest for your souls."

There are groups who claim to be Christians, but they do not live like this - - - in growing submission to how God rules and personally guides us.

We need to make sure with God, then, in prayer in His peace, about if we belong with someone we want to marry. So, we would need to test in prayer, in order to make sure with God about if a couple is meant for each other. We would want to spend time getting to know them, not just have them walk in off the street and ambush us with their plans and their dictating that we have to pronounce them.

And we would expect a couple to want to get to know us, in order to see if they find us suitable to pronounce them as married by Jesus. We would do it as family . . . not a legal shotgun pronouncement which we are being threatened and criticized to do.

And we in Jesus know we must not discriminate against certain wrong people, by saying certain wrong people don't need forgiveness while other wrong people do need the forgiveness of Jesus on the cross. There are groups who actually practice discrimination, by telling certain wrong people that they do not need to be forgiven by Jesus. But we all need Jesus who died on the cross for us!! We all were born wrong because of our sin; so it is discrimination to claim that certain wrong people are excused from judgment, while the rest of us need forgiveness of Jesus on the cross.

So, in case a couple came along and claimed to be superior to us so they can be wrong while we can't . . . why would they want us to pronounce them? But yes there are various people who come to Bible believing churches and they want to be pronounced, but they feel they don't need Jesus and to be forgiven. If someone thinks he or she is too good for Jesus who is God's own Son, I think this is a major conceit problem.

God has sent us His very own Son to personally reach us; so God who is so superior does not have a conceit problem.

 

[X-Ray]

No you don't need priest . You vow before God. Boy make vow to God that he want to take Girl as bride , she make vow to God that she is taking Boy as bridgegroom and if Father of that Girl allows her to do so they are considered bridgegroom and bride. When bridgegroom takes bride to his house and to his room which he has prepared/build/added to his house and they have sex they become one flesh joined by God .

Biblicall marriage.
There is no priest giving marriage in the Bible i don't know where you found that idea perhaps from observing world and making conclusions . Many people went astray or added to Bible , removed from it or made traditions over time but God does not change and his word stays .

yeah but what ur saying is the typical idea of a marriage we're talking about gays being united as one under god and i do observe the world and i come up with my opinions and beliefs if u dont know about this happening then ur living under a rock or someones lying to u. gays are constantly shamed and discriminated against and with that their marriages arent rly acknowledged by the church and whist it not acknowledged by a church its not acknowledged by god. in theory if god doesnt recognize your relationship then its not a marriage

 

[X-Ray]

If people want to get married but they are not Christians, they can be pronounced by whoever is authorized in a country to do secular weddings. In the United States, I think any adult can be authorized to pronounce a couple.

I would say that a group who goes by the Bible is not obligated to pronounce people who do not follow Jesus.

And following Jesus includes >

"And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful." (Colossians 3:15)

"'Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.'" (Matthew 11:29)

So, if we care about a couple we will test them in counseling, about if they are obeying how our Heavenly Father personally rules them with His own peace in their hearts, and if they are learning how to live with "rest for your souls."

There are groups who claim to be Christians, but they do not live like this - - - in growing submission to how God rules and personally guides us.

We need to make sure with God, then, in prayer in His peace, about if we belong with someone we want to marry. So, we would need to test in prayer, in order to make sure with God about if a couple is meant for each other. We would want to spend time getting to know them, not just have them walk in off the street and ambush us with their plans and their dictating that we have to pronounce them.

And we would expect a couple to want to get to know us, in order to see if they find us suitable to pronounce them as married by Jesus. We would do it as family . . . not a legal shotgun pronouncement which we are being threatened and criticized to do.

And we in Jesus know we must not discriminate against certain wrong people, by saying certain wrong people don't need forgiveness while other wrong people do need the forgiveness of Jesus on the cross. There are groups who actually practice discrimination, by telling certain wrong people that they do not need to be forgiven by Jesus. But we all need Jesus who died on the cross for us!! We all were born wrong because of our sin; so it is discrimination to claim that certain wrong people are excused from judgment, while the rest of us need forgiveness of Jesus on the cross.

So, in case a couple came along and claimed to be superior to us so they can be wrong while we can't . . . why would they want us to pronounce them? But yes there are various people who come to Bible believing churches and they want to be pronounced, but they feel they don't need Jesus and to be forgiven. If someone thinks he or she is too good for Jesus who is God's own Son, I think this is a major conceit problem.

God has sent us His very own Son to personally reach us; so God who is so superior does not have a conceit problem.

yes but we arent talking about a "typical marriage" gays can also be christians and with that they would like to be acknowledged as a couple by the church which is why i asked this question

 

[Chinchilla]

yeah but what ur saying is the typical idea of a marriage we're talking about gays being united as one under god and i do observe the world and i come up with my opinions and beliefs if u dont know about this happening then ur living under a rock or someones lying to u. gays are constantly shamed and discriminated against and with that their marriages arent rly acknowledged by the church and whist it not acknowledged by a church its not acknowledged by god. in theory if god doesnt recognize your relationship then its not a marriage

No mate definition of marriage is man and woman who leave thier father and mother to become one flesh.
Simply something like gay marriage does not exist it's like saying square circle . God is not joining together man and man or woman with woman .

If you are asking about opinions then yes everybody has an opinion , to some people man with man or woman with woman is marriage but if you ask what's true according to word of God there is no such thing.

 

[X-Ray]

No mate definition of marriage is man and woman who leave thier father and mother to become one flesh.
Simply something like gay marriage does not exist it's like saying square circle . God is not joining together man and man or woman with woman .

If you are asking about opinions then yes everybody has an opinion , to some people man with man or woman with woman is marriage but if you ask what's true according to word of God there is no such thing.

well how do u know what god wants if he himself hasnt told the world? the writers were said to have been influenced by god which makes it true and just but think about it god spoke to them...serial killers sometimes say the same thing. so does that make them right for killing others under gods name? should they have been killed or sentenced to prison? i mean u ARE spoken to god so therefore it must be true and u cant be punished bc they were spoken to god; every animal has a gay couple thats not discriminated against but us. u cant possibly know what god wants bc u urself are not god. and the bible is just a book with a bunch of gibberish that all of us dont understand and no one i mean NO ONE knows what god wants, his opinions could change over time like ours...so who are u to tell someone else that wants to be recognized and loved that its not possible? if your religion causes u to discriminate then u shouldnt have to partake in that religion basically all ur belief is fueled by faith and hope there is a god. god is a complex being so u shouldnt tell and speak for someone else if u urself dont know what they themselves want

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Should gay/lesbian marriage be preformed by the church

The simple answer in our church would be a no.

There are plenty of places besides the church that will marry them since in many states it is now legal.

A church that would marry these ones apparently does not follow the Bible very closely???

M-Bob

 

[X-Ray]

The simple answer in our church would be a no.

There are plenty of places besides the church that will marry them since in many states it is now legal.

A church that would marry these ones apparently does not follow the Bible very closely???

M-Bob

yes but like ive said how do u know exactly what god wants? the bible was written many many years ago and was wrote by a sinner who said was influenced by god; do opinions not change? there are serial killers who say they are influenced by god so does that make what theyve done right? i mean you ARE spoken to by god the one and only so you must be just. and thats exactly the thing how can they be married if the church is scared of not being in touch with the bible; a book spouting gibberish that we read and give our filtered version of it. u urself arent god, so who are u to judge? u do not know what god wants and no one knows exactly what the bible is saying. the priest do the same take their own filtered version and preach it to others even tho they are followers of god. there are gay christians, being gay has been around since forever, gayness is also found with other animals and we are animals yet we dont allow the same thing? and marriage isnt a christian practice ur practicing another religions customs so tell me...is that sinning

 

[Mountainmanbob]

yes but like ive said how do u know exactly what god wants? the bible was written many many years ago and was wrote by a sinner who said was influenced by god; do opinions not change? there are serial killers who say they are influenced by god so does that make what theyve done right? i mean you ARE spoken to by god the one and only so you must be just. and thats exactly the thing how can they be married if the church is scared of not being in touch with the bible; a book spouting gibberish that we read and give our filtered version of it. u urself arent god, so who are u to judge? u do not know what god wants and no one knows exactly what the bible is saying. the priest do the same take their own filtered version and preach it to others even tho they are followers of god. there are gay christians, being gay has been around since forever, gayness is also found with other animals and we are animals yet we dont allow the same thing? and marriage isnt a christian practice ur practicing another religions customs so tell me...is that sinning

Okay I think we have your take on it.

True one either supports gay marriage or they don't.

Also true most churches do not but, I suppose if one looks hard enough they'll find a very few that will support it?

Our church does not judge these people but, they will not be forced to marry them or in any way support their marriage.

Regarding the Bible. We either believe in what it says and try to respect the rules set down or we don't.

The church and its members should not judge the world for they are not of the world.

M-Bob

 

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[X-Ray]

lmao what

 

[dreadnought]

Should gay/lesbian marriage be preformed by the church

No, the Lord made it very clear that homosexuality is a sin (Leviticus 18:22).

 

[DaisyDay]

Should gay/lesbian marriage be preformed by the church

Which church?

 

[X-Ray]

No, the Lord made it very clear that homosexuality is a sin (Leviticus 18:22).

u dont know what the lord wants thats what ive been getting at this bible was made many many years ago by someone influenced by god...some serial killers say theyre influenced by god does that make what they write and do to others is just? being gay is natural nothing in the system causes ppl to be gay and the bible never says why its a sin, every other animal have gay couples but we are the odd ones out. if a christian is gay and is happy being gay why stop it? its not hurting anyone and i dont see why its a sin, the ancient Egyptians did it, Catholics did it, even Christians in the old days ESPECIALLY THEN its been going on since the beginning. opinions change from the time u were a kid to now ur opinions change everyones opinions change to match up with the modern day. so why not gods? yall dont know what god wants and no one can say what he wants but himself.

 

[Dave-W]

Should gay/lesbian marriage be preformed by the church

No. It should not even exist.

 

[Skreeper]

No, the Lord made it very clear that homosexuality is a sin (Leviticus 18:22).

Quite a few believers have a different interpretation so it isn't as clear as you make it out to be.

 

[Inkfingers]

gays can also be christians

Christianity requires repentance of sin, not the willful indulging of it.