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Mark of the Beast : Computer Chip Brain Implant allows Paralyzed Man to move again

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How does a chip or mark affect our moral status or free will to do good?

I don't know, I have heard in many videos the chip can control your thoughts and force you to do bad things.

This also could be the reason you can not be forgiven after accepting it, it completely takes you over and controls you.

This is very possible as you can see in the first video.

If you get the chip, you will be programmed not to do good.
 
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Why would the government use tattoos? not everyone will get a tattoo, but most do not mind getting a small chip.

I will say this.

A computer can also print out images of a tattoo, its possible, but not in our day and age.

Also, you can not get a tattoo in your hand or in your forehead.

it's on your skin.

So im going with the implant here just for that one reason.

An example of one of your bad arguments is some people won't get a tattoo but will get a chip, but some people will also NOT get a chip for the reason it's been talked about so much but they will take a tattoo. Your point their is completely moot.

Also, you say they are doing it now...no they are not requiring anything now

A Tattoo goes into the skin, as does a brand, even if it's slight.

Go with it then, that's fine, either you never caught onto, or you lost track of my point...this was never about who was right, I know I'm not anyway because IDK, and never claimed to. It' just a shame you aren't concerned enough about others to offer all possibilities for the good reasons I mentioned, but I guess what matters most is being right.
 
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How does a chip or mark affect our moral status or free will to do good?

It depends; especially if the "Mark" is gained by complicity with the System that makes the complicity possible ....

Let's just say that the "Mark," if and when subscribed to, discourages a person from acclimating to the values of Jesus Christ.
 
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This thread is closed for staff review and possible move. This is not a theology forum or a place to debate the mark of the beast or Eschatology.

 
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So the computer is the beast? You know this and yet here you are taking part in it?

There will be an animated video of the beast, and you work as an animator?

What does the dragon say? How do we know the computer sounds like the dragon? I've never heard one.

This dragon app plays a role in the end times. I don't have it. Am I safe?

Are ip addresses part of all this? Or websites in general? If ip's or web addresses are incorrect, there will be problems with connection.

When you say the computer shows fire coming from heaven, is that a video or a gif?

My router has no antennas. Am I safe?

Also, I use the literally translated esv and nasb bibles. Whoops.

Last thing...how do we know that your teachings are right and all the greatest theologians of the past 2000 years are not?

I repeat a saying:
Whatever is true is not new. And whatever is new is not true.

I do not doubt that technology will play some role in the end. But much of what you're saying is nonsensical.
 
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So the computer is the beast? You know this and yet here you are taking part in it?

There will be an animated video of the beast, and you work as an animator?

What does the dragon say? How do we know the computer sounds like the dragon? I've never heard one.

This dragon app plays a role in the end times. I don't have it. Am I safe?

Are ip addresses part of all this? Or websites in general? If ip's or web addresses are incorrect, there will be problems with connection.

When you say the computer shows fire coming from heaven, is that a video or a gif?

My router has no antennas. Am I safe?

Also, I use the literally translated esv and nasb bibles. Whoops.

Last thing...how do we know that your teachings are right and all the greatest theologians of the past 2000 years are not?

I repeat a saying:
Whatever is true is not new. And whatever is new is not true.

I do not doubt that technology will play some role in the end. But much of what you're saying is nonsensical.

Yea I use the computer, but I will never get a microchip, never, and this is what this thread is about, not getting the microchip.

So stop trying to make this what it is not, the whole thing is about not getting the chip.

If you believe the computer is the beast is not the issue.
 
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What is evil about helping people who are paralyzed? Is this thread serious?

I never said it was evil, it shows what the chip is capable of, it shows that if you do get the future chip implant, it has the capability to control your mind.
 
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Yea I use the computer, but I will never get a microchip, never, and this is what this thread is about, not getting the microchip.

So stop trying to make this what it is not, the whole thing is about not getting the chip.

If you believe the computer is the beast is not the issue.
I didn't make it anything different. I was responding to what you made it. You compared the antennas on a router to horns mentioned in the Bible. That's reaching a bit.

You're presenting your argument as if it's fact when it's all speculation. You can almost smell the conspiracy theories in the thread.
 
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I didn't make it anything different. I was responding to what you made it. You compared the antennas on a router to horns mentioned in the Bible. That's reaching a bit.

You're presenting your argument as if it's fact when it's all speculation. You can almost smell the conspiracy theories in the thread.

No its not reaching at all.

When he saw the computer in his vision, he truly could not describe what it was he saw, there was no technology back then, nothing.

So if you lived back then, and had a vision from God and saw antennas, you also would think they could be horns.

It was a symbol he was shown of our future, of the end times, our times, not his times.

So he saw visions of our days and times and the things we have now.

Wheres the conspiracy in that???
 
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To me this is a marvel of medicine and I'm happy for the guy. I don't see this as the mark of the beast at all - just because it is a chip? If we can't let anything foreign in our body such as this, do we need to get rid of pacemakers, steel plates, glass eyes?
 
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While I recognize that we cannot be 100 percent certain of what the mark of the beast is, we do know it will be in your right hand or forehead, and you can't buy or sell without it. Anything that is remotely like that, avoid like the plague.
 
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This truly happened in 2014, just think what we can do now with computers.

The mark is a chip, it's not a mark on your skin, the chip its self is a mark, the beast is a computer, it shows images of fire coming down to heaven.

But you need to see this if you have not yet.

I agree that, with today's computer technology and AI, the mark will probably be some sort of chip.

However, we will be able to refuse it. It will not be something that is done without our knowledge of it being the "mark" or without us being able to refuse it.. Probably punished by execution, however.

We will not get the mark only to go "Wow, I didn't know that was the mark of the beast"... No, we will be well aware.

I also believe that it will have some sort of biological effect. Like longer life and other physiological effects.

I believe it will be a result of demonic intervention combined with DNA alteration. Something that makes us a creature that is no longer able to receive salvation.

Remember, Satan always tries to imitate Christ and God... He would do that, here, by making us new creatures.... as we become a new creature in Christ and he will imitate that in the only way he can... by alterations in DNA.

I don't see this person, who can now walk again, as being a person who has taken the "mark". It will not be a one by one random event... It will be a world wide change and demand of the WWG.
 
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While I recognize that we cannot be 100 percent certain of what the mark of the beast is, we do know it will be in your right hand or forehead, and you can't buy or sell without it. Anything that is remotely like that, avoid like the plague.

That would limit how a person with neurological problems can be treated. I don't think we would be tricked into the mark of the beast with medical treatment for neurological conditions. The mark of the beast will be able to be rejected because Christians will not trust it because of other reasons other than it being a chip - there will be accompanying signs and it will be associated, depending on your Eschatology belief system, with the antichrist. I haven't seen any sign this chip to treat a man being paralyzed has to do with the antichrist, and this would only be a very little medical device for a specific treatment. The mark of the beast will be widespread and involves identity and buying/selling. Not matching this at all.
 
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We don't, I even mentioned a few times a chip may very well be the case. All I'm saying is let's not assume, or get too comfortable with something that isn't stated directly in the bible.

My prior post probably sums up all my thoughts on the matter .

Satan is more clever in logic than any of us or all of us put together working in our carnal minds. Nobody is going to figure it out as a logical exercise. It's not going to be anything that can be worked out by a simple pattern of logic.

It may not even be the same physical thing in every case. Or it may be a number of different things that have the same moral effect.

It's going to be something that will require the specific Holy Spirit warning in each individual: "Don't take that."
 
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