Driscoll & Brierley on Women in Leadership « Cognitive Discopants
Why? Why does he say such utterly ridiculous things? I don't understand how things like this happen.
"Driscoll: You dont have one. You dont have one young guy who can preach the Bible that anybodys listening to on the whole earth."
Because apparently preachers have to be young. That qualification is garbage, and there are plenty of wonderful British theologians, some of whom are world-famous and almost universally respected throughout Christendom. What Driscoll means to say is "You don't have any clones of me".
"Driscoll: So, in the church that your wife pastors, how many young men have come to Christ in the last year?"
Because young men are the only ones who matter.
"Brierley: Up to the point my wife took over, it had been run by men. Since shes come, lots of new families, lots of younger people, both men and women, have come. I wouldnt say the balance is right perfect yet by any means. But its certainly a lot better than it ever was. And so I dont necessarily see quite the same situation that you paint there in terms of men not relating. I see more men in the church since shes been there than before she was there, in a way.
Driscoll: What kind of men? Strong men?"
And only men who fit Driscoll's weird vision of masculinity seem to matter.
And my favorite is this:
"Driscoll: No, no, you dont want to sit in my seat, I understand. So does your wife do counseling with men? Sexual counseling? Does she talk about masturbation, pornography, the stuff that I do?
Brierley: Well no, she doesnt.
Driscoll: Well, who does talk to the men about those things, especially the young men?
Brierley: Well there are other people that she can pass them on to. We have male elders in our church who, you know, would be able to tackle those kinds of questions. I mean, but would you speak with those kinds of issues to a female in your church?
Driscoll: Uh no. If theyre a married couple we might meet with them as a couple. But if its a woman, we would have women leaders meet with them.
Brierley: Sure, well its the same scenario in our church really.
Driscoll: Well except for whos in charge."
That doesn't even make sense. Driscoll just got schooled, so he's going to pretend that Brierley's church is a failure for having the same setup as Driscoll's church in regards to sexuality counseling just because the roles of pastor/elder are reversed.
Honestly, I liked Driscoll when I first heard of him, for about 1 month. I honestly think he does a lot of damage, and it never ceases to amaze me what a following he has garnered. Your thoughts?
Why? Why does he say such utterly ridiculous things? I don't understand how things like this happen.
"Driscoll: You dont have one. You dont have one young guy who can preach the Bible that anybodys listening to on the whole earth."
Because apparently preachers have to be young. That qualification is garbage, and there are plenty of wonderful British theologians, some of whom are world-famous and almost universally respected throughout Christendom. What Driscoll means to say is "You don't have any clones of me".
"Driscoll: So, in the church that your wife pastors, how many young men have come to Christ in the last year?"
Because young men are the only ones who matter.
"Brierley: Up to the point my wife took over, it had been run by men. Since shes come, lots of new families, lots of younger people, both men and women, have come. I wouldnt say the balance is right perfect yet by any means. But its certainly a lot better than it ever was. And so I dont necessarily see quite the same situation that you paint there in terms of men not relating. I see more men in the church since shes been there than before she was there, in a way.
Driscoll: What kind of men? Strong men?"
And only men who fit Driscoll's weird vision of masculinity seem to matter.
And my favorite is this:
"Driscoll: No, no, you dont want to sit in my seat, I understand. So does your wife do counseling with men? Sexual counseling? Does she talk about masturbation, pornography, the stuff that I do?
Brierley: Well no, she doesnt.
Driscoll: Well, who does talk to the men about those things, especially the young men?
Brierley: Well there are other people that she can pass them on to. We have male elders in our church who, you know, would be able to tackle those kinds of questions. I mean, but would you speak with those kinds of issues to a female in your church?
Driscoll: Uh no. If theyre a married couple we might meet with them as a couple. But if its a woman, we would have women leaders meet with them.
Brierley: Sure, well its the same scenario in our church really.
Driscoll: Well except for whos in charge."
That doesn't even make sense. Driscoll just got schooled, so he's going to pretend that Brierley's church is a failure for having the same setup as Driscoll's church in regards to sexuality counseling just because the roles of pastor/elder are reversed.
Honestly, I liked Driscoll when I first heard of him, for about 1 month. I honestly think he does a lot of damage, and it never ceases to amaze me what a following he has garnered. Your thoughts?
