I've felt that marijuana made me more vulnerable to the enemy when I smoked it. I don't wish to go into detail here, but I don't like anything to do with hallucinogenics.
My many years of counselling, including counselling for a drug rehabilitation agency, confirms that dangers of marijuana use and what it does on the individual and in relationships.You kidding? I am defiantly trying not to promote marijuana use but marijuana for me did not strain my family relationship in my past. What strains relationships is the sinful lifestyles kid's these days think they have to praticpate in. Also Marijuana does nothing to the mind once your off of it, I do not know about very very long term effects but their was a quote by someone that went like this. "Lady: Well my brother does Marijuana and hes an idiot and has no job and is lazy and in jail now because of marijuana. Comedian: Maybe it's not that marijuana maybe your brother is just an idiot. It's god missing from the picture not the marijuana doing the harm. Obviously doing marijuana shows your distance from God.
My many years of counselling, including counselling for a drug rehabilitation agency, confirms that dangers of marijuana use and what it does on the individual and in relationships.
I've also done the research, that I have compiled.
In your posts you do seem to want to minimise some of the effects of marijuana use.
Sincerely, Oz
Based on the posts ive read I'm curious, if it ceased to be illegal, would there then cease to be any biblical argument against it?
Is it against the law?
Enough said the Bible is clear that we should follow the laws that are placed over us unless they go against God. And last time I checked not being able to smoke pot didn't go against God so the law wins on this one follow it.
It also has horrible psychological effects as the studies on mental illness associated with marijuana use demonstrate.I suppose since I can only speak for myself and some old friends I have had. I think if the person was doing it regularly it can strain on your family or relationships only because your acting different and trying to avoid them knowing you are high. Sometimes when people are on it they do not want to be bothered and be alone. Which is not really good.
I think anyone doing marijuana is a deceived person in the first place. Of coarse people can sin and smoke marijuana and be forgiven but when your doing it regularly and know it, it's wrong.
It's a controversial subject alot of people think it's ok to smoke as a christian but I think it's very wrong, so obviously we can agree marijuana has horrible social and physical effects.
If they " benefit" by being high, then I guess they benefit. But there is no evidence whatsoever that marijuana has any medicinal value other than as a regenerator of an appetite, which often disappears when taking certain cancer medications. It is just as easily accomplished through simply deciding you are going to eat, even if not apparently hungry.Now some people do benefit from medical marijuana and, where it is legal, I think its perfectly acceptable for those people to use it. Other than that though, stay away.
Not in my opinion. Tobacco and alcohol are legal too, but the prohibition against polluting the temple of God should be sufficient to keep it in the "don't do it" territory of Christianity.Based on the posts ive read I'm curious, if it ceased to be illegal, would there then cease to be any biblical argument against it?
Based on the posts ive read I'm curious, if it ceased to be illegal, would there then cease to be any biblical argument against it?
I don't think there is anything wrong with the marijuana itself... it is the purpose of the use that should be in question.
Genesis 1 makes it clear that vegetation and fruit bearing seed is good, and marijuana undoubtedly falls into this category.
There are many that believe that its use was widespread, especially in oils, throughout the history of the Bible.
I say all of that to say this: it's not as black and white as some of us try and make it out to be.
Just my opinion. Don't stone me for it. (pun intended). =)
Scripture reference needed.
He bases it on the Greek for "sorcery" in the New Testament, which is pharmarkeia from which we get the word "pharmacology", the study and proper usage of drugs. Yeah, it doesn't quite fit, but this does.Scripture reference needed.
Today there is a large number of Christians that feel it is acceptable to drink alcohol for recreational purposes or perhaps a night cap as long as they do not get drunk and of course they have their own personal definition of what being drunk is. There is also a number of Christians who believe smoking pot for recreational purposes or again a night cap is alright as long as they do not get high who also have their definition of what getting high is. Since alcohol is legal should marijuana be legal and if it is alright to drink is it alright to smoke dope? Why? Remember alcohol is a drug also.
http://www.narconon.org/drug-educati...ol-a-drug.html
He bases it on the Greek for "sorcery" in the New Testament, which is pharmarkeia from which we get the word "pharmacology", the study and proper usage of drugs. Yeah, it doesn't quite fit, but this does.
1 Corinthians 6 NASBIf you review the link to the Washington State University ADCAPS study of the most significant research into marijuana over the last 20 years, you will see that the use of it violates the concept of not defiling the temple.
8 Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his own body.
19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?
I think all drugs should be legal, but that is a different discussion.
Naturally, then, I believe CANNABIS should be legal. Marijuana was a smear term used in the 30s to give cannabis a Mexican sounding name (for the purpose of fear and disdain) to protect the interests of William Randolph Hearst and the timber industry. It does not cause cancer, it actually has anti-carcinogenic effects. It is not a gateway drug. It increases melatonin by a significant amount (~4000%) which causes the "sleepiness" of those that smoke it. Melatonin is also used to reduce radiation damage (which is counterproductive to cannabis causing cancer.) Cannabis increases the metabolism by several factors (which accounts for the hunger.) It relieves pain by working on dopamine receptors, and inducing production of serotonin. Cannabis actually treats the sources of problems, as opposed to symptoms (like pharmaceuticals.) As such, there has been so much money invested in destroying the image of cannabis, and hiding the beneficial effects of the herb.
In addition to consumption via smoking or edibles, the hemp plant also has a complete protein. It can be used for pet foods, rope, paper (timber industry,) clothes (there goes the cotton industry,) biodiesel (oil industry,) textiles (it is resistant to UV radiation, and salt water,) plastics, and thousands of other uses. Since it grows fast, and is easy on the land, it makes for an abundant source for goods. The campaign on marijuana isn't about health, it is political. Otherwise, cigarettes would be illegal since it is proven they are addictive, and cause aggressive cancers.
Christians imbibing in cannabis should treat it in the same way they would treat alcohol. A glass of wine is beneficial, just as a smoke of cannabis (in the form of edibles, joint, etc.) can be beneficial. Of course, too much of anything, even water, can be harmful.
By the way, I would much rather toke up for, say, depression, rather than take a pharmaceutical drug (pharmakeia = witchcraft) that is designed with violent side-effects, only treating the symptoms of my problems.
With one marijuana cigarette, you take into your lungs as much tar and other carcinogenic chemicals as you would if you smoked seven regular cigarettes. One joint is one joint too many.I think all drugs should be legal, but that is a different discussion.
Naturally, then, I believe CANNABIS should be legal. Marijuana was a smear term used in the 30s to give cannabis a Mexican sounding name (for the purpose of fear and disdain) to protect the interests of William Randolph Hearst and the timber industry. It does not cause cancer, it actually has anti-carcinogenic effects. It is not a gateway drug. It increases melatonin by a significant amount (~4000%) which causes the "sleepiness" of those that smoke it. Melatonin is also used to reduce radiation damage (which is counterproductive to cannabis causing cancer.) Cannabis increases the metabolism by several factors (which accounts for the hunger.) It relieves pain by working on dopamine receptors, and inducing production of serotonin. Cannabis actually treats the sources of problems, as opposed to symptoms (like pharmaceuticals.) As such, there has been so much money invested in destroying the image of cannabis, and hiding the beneficial effects of the herb.
In addition to consumption via smoking or edibles, the hemp plant also has a complete protein. It can be used for pet foods, rope, paper (timber industry,) clothes (there goes the cotton industry,) biodiesel (oil industry,) textiles (it is resistant to UV radiation, and salt water,) plastics, and thousands of other uses. Since it grows fast, and is easy on the land, it makes for an abundant source for goods. The campaign on marijuana isn't about health, it is political. Otherwise, cigarettes would be illegal since it is proven they are addictive, and cause aggressive cancers.
Christians imbibing in cannabis should treat it in the same way they would treat alcohol. A glass of wine is beneficial, just as a smoke of cannabis (in the form of edibles, joint, etc.) can be beneficial. Of course, too much of anything, even water, can be harmful.
By the way, I would much rather toke up for, say, depression, rather than take a pharmaceutical drug (pharmakeia = witchcraft) that is designed with violent side-effects, only treating the symptoms of my problems.
Read my comment above.
With one marijuana cigarette, you take into your lungs as much tar and other carcinogenic chemicals as you would if you smoked seven regular cigarettes. One joint is one joint too many.
I agree with your above comments. Drunkenness in any form is spiritually illegal (including gluttony, toking, drinking, etc.)
However, there is a difference of extremity between drunkenness, and what I am talking about. I am not advocating getting "high out of your mind." Cannabis should be treated as responsibly as drinking wine.
Drunkenness implies a lifestyle of usage that focuses on the imbibing of a substance. This is idolatry. The witchcraft described in the bible involved taking something that existed in nature, and concocting it into something that served a [psychotropic] purpose. This is the same thing a pharmacy drug does. It involves chemistry; a caricature of witchcraft that has some truth to it is the typical witch cauldron that is being stirred. Using something for divination is witchcraft. The intent matters.
I agree that anything that causes a person to be influenced spiritually (i.e. mind-altering) is a form of witchcraft. But, the sole purpose of THC is not to alter the mind (like other drugs do.) Likewise, the sole purpose of alcohol is not to alter the mind.
I find the content of this post is very naive. You state that Genesis 1 teaches that vegetation and fruit bearing seed is good. This is what happens when you pluck one verse from the Bible and mean what you want it to mean. Haven't you read Genesis 3, the fall into sin and what happened to the whole of creation as a result of sin?I don't think there is anything wrong with the marijuana itself... it is the purpose of the use that should be in question.
Genesis 1 makes it clear that vegetation and fruit bearing seed is good, and marijuana undoubtedly falls into this category.
There are many that believe that its use was widespread, especially in oils, throughout the history of the Bible.
I say all of that to say this: it's not as black and white as some of us try and make it out to be.
Just my opinion. Don't stone me for it. (pun intended). =)
Frankly, you don't know what you are talking about. It's time that you did some accurate research.Genesis 1 makes it clear that vegetation and fruit bearing seed is good, and marijuana undoubtedly falls into this category.
"the sole purpose of THC is not to alter the mind (like other drugs do.) Likewise, the sole purpose of alcohol is not to alter the mind."
The sole purpose of any drug used illegally is to alter the mind. Alcohol is also a drug. Scripture tells Christians to not alter their minds in this manner. There is a reason why many drugs are illegal and why there is a Drug War which includes bad characters hanging around school grounds.
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