where is the "fair hearing" for the mother of that child ? if that child is going to ruin that mothers life, are you saying its better that the child is still born ? that child could be born to a mother that can barely provide for herself let alone a new born child. thats not fair on anyone, the mother, the father, the child and even the tax payer. That child could lead to the death of that mother during birth, are you telling me its better to bring that baby into the world without a mother ? is it better for that mother to die rather than the child ?
THe mother has already abused her free will by having sex with other men knowing well that she could get pregnant. A baby on the other hand has done absolutely nothing to anybody, it has commited no actions against the mother except existing, which the mother caused herself, not the baby. Its not like the baby forced itself in her womb, by her own actions she caused the baby to form.
You hear of adoption maybe?
THis is why atheists have such an awful moral system, they proceed to defend a mass murderer with all their power to keep them alive but do in all their power to kill the unborn who hasn't even commited a crime. If that isn't hypocrisy in its greatest I don't know what is.
yeah.. the law system isnt corrupt in any way. sure everyone gets a fair hearing... ummm yeah! of course. forgot about the wonders of the infallible justice system *rolls eyes*
ever heard of people lying in court ??
ever hear of perjury? Most people know what perjury entails and will not commit it due to the consequences. If a person is commiting perjury most the time they will get caught. Most people will not commit perjury unless someone is paying them a great amount of money to under the table or extortion. However most courts can find out if extortion is happening. And most killers do not have that kinda money where they are able to twist the justice system like OJ Simpson.
i am comparing the principals, the idea that you can tell someone to not do something and then turn around and do the same thing to someone else.. even worse that very same person you have told it is sooo wrong.
Principles? are you kidding me? Don't even talk to me about principles when you yourself base everything on moral relativism. Again if your defending abortion then don't even bring up principles on what is right and wrong.
i was simply putting your logic into a scenario that you might be able to understand from personal experience. not many people have the first hand experience with murders, i was simply putting forth your logic in a more "down to earth" problem.
Please. Its a horrid analogy. Most children are spanked and do not turn into murderers or think its ok to murder. However when they see a killer on TV they know that he is getting what he deserves just by their own God given conscious.
a person is a person. no matter what they have done, might do, colour, age and sex. That murder is still a human being, a Homo sapien... they still do all the same things as you, they read newspapers, eat dinner, lunch and they even still have to use the bathroom. That person still deserves the same amount of respect you give your boss, girlfriend/wife/husband, your children and any other person you pass on the street.
Actually no they don't do all the same things as other people. They kill, rape, torture, are sexually perverted and sadomasocistic, steal and torment the public. They prowl the streets looking for victims whenever they can. Dosen't sound like "doing all the same things as me".. Most people don't do that.
if someone was take away from society at birth, treated with the up most respect and not harmed or mistreated in any way but was told every day that it is perfectly ok to kill someone on a bus, if they were told that its the right thing to do, ok ? then they where send into a city and got on a bus and killed someone, would it be wrong ? as far as they know its perfectly normal. should they be treated like any other murderer ?
Again, another bad analogy. Most serial murderers and mass killers kill because they get some sick pleasure or power from it, it has nothing to do with exterior brainwashing. The only thing that gets close to your analogy are suicide bombers, but still many muslims know that its not right to get on a bus and kill 30 people. Its called a conscious.
do you not think a better solution to this problem... and i admit it is a very big problem. would be not to kill them but take steps to improve the justice system ? its not only murders that pass though it... you can't sentence someone to death that was involved in a robbery, they could get out and do it all over again. everyone hates being robbed just as much as they hate being killed. same goes for the rapists, arsonists and every other person that is in jail. it would kill two birds with one stone so to speak.
Keeping criminals in prison is actually a hinderance to society, especially our taxes. And many continue to murder and rape while they are in jail. When they are released many end up in prison again. Read about Michael Dukakis "furlough" program and his attempt to "take steps to improve the justice system". It exactly what you are trying to describe. Problem is when they were released they killed and robbed again. Read about Willie Horton
life is full of what ifs. its the way of the world. life is not black and white. its not even different shades of gray... its a whole rainbow of colours. The human race is so diverse that everyone can't be separated into two teams. life doesn't work like that. the what ifs do matter. thats what makes the world a nice place to live in. its what makes it a less dangerous place to be. what ifs are what pushes the human race forward. what if we landed on the moon, what if i could link two computers together that are other sides of the world. the what ifs can't be ignored. if they are, life would come to a complete stand still. they need to be acknowledged and thought about, processed with the same care as the certainties
Yet you take no consideration that IF a murderer is kept alive he will kill more people in prison or if he gets out. Again if you are defending to keep murderers alive yet are justifying to kill the unborn who haven't killed anyone or commited any crime then you are gonna have a serious problem with any type of "principle system" you create yourself.
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