Manischewitz Kosher 4 Gentiles?!?

[xDenax]

Certainly, even more so these days than in the past. Any number of ingredients or manufacturing processes could violate biblical kashrut.

Such as? I don't know much about the wine making process.

 

[Henaynei]

Such as? I don't know much about the wine making process.

Sources:
Containers in which the product is harvested, stored
Source of fermentation,
colorants,
flavor or bouquet enhancers,
preservatives,
Chemicals with which the bottles are cleaned
The equipment for processing or bottling if there is equipment timesharing - i.e. The equipment is used for other commodities also - (as there often is in the food industry these days).
The list goes on...
There is a lot more to kashrut that first seems.

 

[pat34lee]

Sources:
Containers in which the product is harvested, stored
Source of fermentation,
colorants,
flavor or bouquet enhancers,
preservatives,
Chemicals with which the bottles are cleaned
The equipment for processing or bottling if there is equipment timesharing - i.e. The equipment is used for other commodities also - (as there often is in the food industry these days).
The list goes on...
There is a lot more to kashrut that first seems.

Would any of the above additives or possible contaminants come from unclean animal products in a normal winery?

 

[Henaynei]

Would any of the above additives or possible contaminants come from unclean animal products in a normal winery?

You'd be surprised
For instance - Are you aware that "natural red food color" comes from a crustacean? Has anything come in contact with a dead body of may be a mouse, or insect, etc?

When it comes to obedience kashrut of processed consumables can not righteously be assumed.

Because it is specifically used to honor and set apart a sanctuary in time in obedience to G-d wine used for that purpose should not be that which is created for common use but purposely created for Holy use.
Would you take the ash pan from your fire place and use it to gather the ashes from the Temple Altar? Your ash pan may be made of the same metal as the Holy one, it may never come in contact with any defiling substance or situation, but nevertheless it is not fit for Holy use. Omeyn?

 

[Lulav]

And lets not forget that some wines have been refined with blood, blood from bulls if I remember correctly is added to some European wines although the practice is more going by the wayside, there are still bottles on the market that contain it.

My biggest problem after spending a few summers touring wineries is that those involved with wine making naturally include the history of it in their process. I can't remember one winery I visited that did not have a representation of Dionysis there, and I've not seen but heard of certain rituals being performed in the vineyards for a good harvest. There is a lot of ceremony in just harvesting the grapes.

 

[Lulav]

Do Messianics tend to only drink kosher wine?

And if so, what is reasoning for doing so?

I can't speak for all Messianics but for me it would have to do with not participating in idolatry. Which all Christians should be avoiding but generally Acts 15 is not followed thoroughly and some Christians even brag about eating things containing blood.

 

[Henaynei]

I can't speak for all Messianics but for me it would have to do with not participating in idolatry. Which all Christians should be avoiding but generally Acts 15 is not followed thoroughly and some Christians even brag about eating things containing blood.

!!GAG!!

 

[yedida]

Well, looks like I'm the connoisseur of the bunch of us....I drink Wine Coolers!!! yea!! Actually, I really don't drink alcohol but once every few years or so I get a hankering for wine coolers. Yeah, I know, my maturity is screaming here, loud and clear, hehehehe.

 

[jcpro]

!!GAG!!

Not really. In my younger, non observant days, steak tartare used to be my favourite dish. I still miss it, sometimes.

 

[jcpro]

Well, looks like I'm the connoisseur of the bunch of us....I drink Wine Coolers!!! yea!! Actually, I really don't drink alcohol but once every few years or so I get a hankering for wine coolers. Yeah, I know, my maturity is screaming here, loud and clear, hehehehe.

I don't care for any kind of wine. Single malt Scotch all the way!

 

[Jerushabelle]

Unless it is offered to idols, is there even such thing as unkosher wine, biblically speaking?

Certainly, even more so these days than in the past. Any number of ingredients or manufacturing processes could violate biblical kashrut.

Okay. Bro. Pat asks a logical question and the response is curious to me. So Sister Henaynei, can you clarify, is that biblical kashrut or Biblical kashrut?... because I can't find the things you later identified.....
"Containers in which the product is harvested, stored
Source of fermentation,
colorants,
flavor or bouquet enhancers,
preservatives,
Chemicals with which the bottles are cleaned
The equipment for processing or bottling if there is equipment timesharing - i.e. The equipment is used for other commodities also - (as there often is in the food industry these days).
The list goes on...
There is a lot more to kashrut that first seems."

.....in Scripture.

 

[Jerushabelle]

I Love This Kid....

This was cute!

Brother Mark, you wetted my appetite so I ran down to Kroger and grabbed me a bottle of Manischewitz Blackberry. Quite tasty, sir! Would you like some?....Oops, , none left! Oy, I'm such a lush! (Just kidding!)

I would say, however, that the Manischewitz product line is great for all in Yeshua. Got a box of Matzo Ball & Soup Mix sitting in my cabinet this very minute. Of course, homemade is better but I rarely have the time.

 

[anisavta]

I grew up with a bottle of Manischewitz blackberry in the cupboard - ready and waiting. It's wonderful for those "tummy issues" we get from time to time.

 

[Henaynei]

LOL - TOO salty for me - ouch!
I always make my own - never from any box, except sometimes the matzo meal.
I like my recipe best!

 

[someguy14]

You can even get kosher salt, non iodized.

 

[Henaynei]

just for a lark go to the cupboard of a friend, or yours if you don't keep kosher - and make a list of everything in there that is marked with a kosher symbol. You have a surprise coming - hehehe...

In America, an amazing number of everyday products from dairy to dish soap, is not only kosher but kosher for Pesakh!

 

[yedida]

I'm so looking forward to my move back to Ohio. In the city I'm moving to there is no kosher market, but there is one not too far away. I'm not familiar with a Jewish market except this one and it was never much higher than than a "regular" grocery store. I always felt blessed to be able to shop there. So I'm excited about being able to get more kosher products in my kitchen. Yay!!!
(I'm sure there must be several in the Atlanta area but what takes only 30 minutes to drive to in Ohio takes well over an hour here because the traffic is so horrendous! Except for maybe between 1am to 4am, there isn't a time of day that you cannot get into a bumper to bumper traffic jam. It's awful here.) Wow, just the thought of no more traffic jams!! I'm so happy to be moving back to Oh. Who would've thought?
Think I'm gonna get my second of four bottles of Wine Cooler right now! hehehe

 

[yedida]

just for a lark go to the cupboard of a friend, or yours if you don't keep kosher - and make a list of everything in there that is marked with a kosher symbol. You have a surprise coming - hehehe...

In America, an amazing number of everyday products from dairy to dish soap, is not only kosher but kosher for Pesakh!

Doesn't "Kosher for Pesach" mean that they don't continue making that particular product during the Pesach week? I know that the Jewish wine makers do stop making those wines during the season but what of other companies that advertise products as such?

 

[Henaynei]

Doesn't "Kosher for Pesach" mean that they don't continue making that particular product during the Pesach week? I know that the Jewish wine makers do stop making those wines during the season but what of other companies that advertise products as such?

I know Coke and Palmolive dish soap make KLP products - they are only available during Pesakh (or in my case for weeks after and sometimes before Pesakh the following year as local grocers have no idea what Kosher for Passover means (they often don't seperate KLP and Kosher items on their shelves - they really are trying though for what they know - most have never seen a Jewish person and have no idea what it is all about - when I explain they are kind and attentive but look at me like I have horns) and I have to be very careful to not be buying stuff left over from last year that is put back out on shelves

 

[Henaynei]

KLP means the contents, packaging and production of an item has been specifically for Passover and met stringent laws concerning KLP.
Yes, for the manufacturing facility or line in the facility turning out the KLP products they are NOT producing their regular items on that line for the duration.