Man Purses

[WileyCoyote]

Ok, so I definately realize the need for men to carry their things with them.... but a purse? Come on, dudes!

I have seen this trend really taking off. A lot of guys are now carrying man purses, murses, attache bags, messenger bags, etc... Whatever you name them, they are purses. It drives me nuts. I know a lot of guys who are masculine guys, but have started carrying these things to keep all their gear close. It makes me laugh a bit.

If I am going somewhere where I need to carry stuff I don't have pockets for, I will carry a backpack.

It's really funny to me when I see these couples walking down the street or around a mall, and the man and the woman are both carrying purposes.


I totally understand a lot of this had to do with gender stereotypes. I just can't for the life of me see why men need to carry a purse!

So, what other traditionally gender specific items do you see a lot of men and women crossing over and adapting?

Coach

Men carrying purses? What's next, men wearing dresses? Has this world gotten WAY to PC?

 

[Beauty4Ashes]

 

[*Starlight*]

Men carrying purses? What's next, men wearing dresses? Has this world gotten WAY to PC?

That would be very cool! What do you mean by PC?

 

[Thomas1984]

I'll see your man in skirt, and raise you a Kendo match.

 

[Brotherfromanothermother]

His shoes don't match.

 

[Tamara224]

Don't start on the history issue.

Too late, I already did. And... don't tell me what to do.

Owning slaves, oppressing women, and duels in the middle of the street were once acceptable parts of society.

So, owning slaves is now akin to carrying a bag? Give me a break.

Besides, my point was that the idea that men's fashion accessories are set in stone is absurd. They change all the time, they have been changing for thousands of years in hundreds of cultures.

So your claim that carrying a purse means a person is adopting/embracing this "new" "metrosexual" stuff is just not true. Because men have historically (before anyone ever heard the term "metrosexual") carried their loose articles in bags. And those bags used to be called purses. Even on men.

My problem is not simply that men are carrying purses, but the adoption of the mextrosexual trends in our society. Here is why I take major issue with this.

1. It is an embracing of every aspect of homosexual culture save the intercourse parts.

Carrying a bag - even a purse - is not "embracing every aspect of homosexual culture"... It is just carrying a purse.

You might as well go ahead and judge everyone as gay who carries a bag. It's unfair stereotyping.

2. It saying that being a masculine man is somehow inferior, and that men should strive to be more feminine.

No, it's not. It's saying that some men don't feel the need to exhibit their "masculinity".

I have an uncle, for example, who is somewhat of an effeminate man. He's a musician and very artistic. And if you didn't know him, you might think he was a little light in the loafers. But he's not. He's got a wife he loves, 4 daughters, and he's a solid Christian.

By your standards, my uncle probably wouldn't be "masculine" enough. But he is who he is. And gender stereotyping or conforming to the gender stereotype would take something away from my uncle. It would force him into a mold that he doesn't fit.

Just because a man is a little more effeminate than the high school football coach, doesn't mean he is gay. Nor does it automatically mean he is "embracing" an abberant lifestyle. It just means he's satisfied with who he is and doesn't feel any need for arbitrary fashion rules to declare his gender.

3. It is all done for selfish "look at me" motives. We have already established there are acceptable ways for gentlemen to carry extra stuff they may need, and a purse aint it.

Give me a break. You've established it in your own mind. "We" haven't established anything. IMO, gentlemen can carry their extra stuff any way they choose. If they want to tie it in a turban and wrap it around their head, stuff it down their underwear, carry a backpack (btw, what makes backpacks acceptable for both men and women?), or carry a purse, they should be free to do whatever suits them best.

 

[Tamara224]

Check it out... a guy in a kilt:

And, oh my gosh... what is that dangling from his waist? Is that...? Could it be....?

A Purse!

 

[Brotherfromanothermother]

Check it out... a guy in a kilt:

And, oh my gosh... what is that dangling from his waist? Is that...? Could it be....?

A Purse!

From Wikipedia,

Sporran



Sporran.
As a kilt was traditionally manufactured without pockets for carrying such things as car keys or wallet, it is still worn with a type of pouch called a sporran, which is just the Gaelic word for pouch or purse. Sporrans are usually made from either brown or black leather.
Sporrans come in a very wide range of styles, from simple leather sporrans to those with fur fronts or fur-trimmed and faced with silver or some other metal. Often, the kilt wearer will chose a type of sporran depending on the occasion, with the more elaborate ones being considered suitable for evening wear and the others for casual or all-purpose wear.
The older style bag sporrans (often called "Rob Roy" sporrans) are also frequently seen as they tend to be a bit roomier than some of the more modern varieties.
The sporran is typically suspended from a sporran belt which is a narrow belt (separate from the kilt belt) made of leather or chain. This sporran belt is sometimes run through a pair of small loops provided for that purpose on the back of the kilt. Occasionally the sporran is suspended from special leather belt loops which enable the sporran to be hung directly from the kilt belt. This is often done when a chain is used as the chain might otherwise chafe the kilt.
It is not unheard of for individuals to sew small pockets on the front of the kilt, underneath the apron, to keep necessities such as wallet or keys in.

 

[CoachR64]

tamera

Not going to sit here and Argue with someone who is taking everything out of context and reads way more into what was said than is there.

Coach

 

[Tamara224]

tamera

Not going to sit here and Argue with someone who is taking everything out of context and reads way more into what was said than is there.

Coach

Sorry Coach. I didn't realize I was doing that. Maybe you could show me where I read into the stuff you were saying and we can discuss this like adults?



Am I just coming across as really rude lately or something? I don't get it. I'm getting rep points like mad from all the ladies....

But the guys in the singles forum are all getting when I join a debate with them.

Am I coming across as a total harpie, or what?

 

[Allegory]

Ok, so I definately realize the need for men to carry their things with them.... but a purse? Come on, dudes!

I have seen this trend really taking off. A lot of guys are now carrying man purses, murses, attache bags, messenger bags, etc... Whatever you name them, they are purses. It drives me nuts. I know a lot of guys who are masculine guys, but have started carrying these things to keep all their gear close. It makes me laugh a bit.

If I am going somewhere where I need to carry stuff I don't have pockets for, I will carry a backpack.

It's really funny to me when I see these couples walking down the street or around a mall, and the man and the woman are both carrying purposes.


I totally understand a lot of this had to do with gender stereotypes. I just can't for the life of me see why men need to carry a purse!

So, what other traditionally gender specific items do you see a lot of men and women crossing over and adapting?

Coach

Dude, I have the Jack Sack. If you think Jack Bauer is not manly then there's something wrong with you.

For all your bomb-disarming, gun-carrying, ass-kicking needs. (Even if it's really just a book, your wallet, and a passport that are inside you can tell people you've got a thermonuclear device inside)

 

[ryanb6]

a man needs to act like a man

 

[Allegory]

a man needs to act like a man

And how does one "act like a man"?

 

[ryanb6]

how the bible tells him to act like a man.

 

[Allegory]

And what does the bible say about messenger bags?

 

[CoachR64]

I keep trying to reply on this phone, and it sucks. Will reply later.

Coach

 

[ryanb6]

so you're one of those people that says the bible doesn't specifically mention it so it doesn't matter? no the bible doesn't say anything about it. i would not use one and i'm not saying it's wrong, however i do not see why we have men trying to breech the gap between male and female. i know you are going to twist what i said all around so i'm probably not going to respond.

 

[Allegory]

so you're one of those people that says the bible doesn't specifically mention it so it doesn't matter? no the bible doesn't say anything about it. i would not use one and i'm not saying it's wrong, however i do not see why we have men trying to breech the gap between male and female. i know you are going to twist what i said all around so i'm probably not going to respond.

Haha alright whatever.

 

[JPPT1974]

I find it odd to see men
With purses as they are
Better off with wallets!

 

[CoachR64]

Tamara,

We will agree to disagree. I have had an awesome night (we got a win in our first wrestling duel against the number 6 team in the state!) tonight and I don't want to be fighting and arguing.

Have a good night.

Coach