Man is Polluting Science

[Heissonear]

Not if the footnotes only lead to more assertions, as opposed to actual support.



Yes, yes.... liberalism is evil, and all that. Facts, please?



Spare me the sob story -- facts, not paranoia, will tell the tale.

Those void of the Spirit produce pollution. The Good News is that you can partake of the Divine Nature.

One must be born again through the Holy Spirit.

What an offer. Corruption verses Divine Nature, front and center.

 

[Heissonear]

When a person is baptisted by the Spirit they find out firsthand why He is called the Holy Spirit.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Those void of the Spirit produce pollution. The Good News is that you can partake of the Divine Nature.

One must be born again through the Holy Spirit.

What an offer. Corruption verses Divine Nature, front and center.

Do you deny that, as a man, you pollute everything you touch?

 

[Heissonear]

Do you deny that, as a man, you pollute everything you touch?

When a person is baptisted by the Spirit they find out firsthand why He is called the Holy Spirit.

And how they can then through Him working within partake of His Divine Nature.

You missed addressing this.

Now what about you?

It will be God who is at work, leading you to no longer produce pollution but rather godliness, purity through His Holy Spirit.

 

[bhsmte]

Those void of the Spirit produce pollution. The Good News is that you can partake of the Divine Nature.

One must be born again through the Holy Spirit.

What an offer. Corruption verses Divine Nature, front and center.

You seem to have pollution on the brain, as often as you use the word, to label others.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

AD 50? When the non-synoptic nature makes it obvious that it was most likely written after Christianity officially schismed from Judaism, which was in the late 80s? "Evidence" that the book was written which the apostle Paul was still alive and writing his epistles?

On what "evidence" are you basing that?



Educated guesswork. So find one educated scholar who says AD 50.



So that's where you got AD 50...

Off topic: your new profile pic is awesome.

 

[TLK Valentine]

When a person is baptisted by the Spirit they find out firsthand why He is called the Holy Spirit.

And how they can then through Him working within partake of His Divine Nature.

You missed addressing this.

Now what about you?

It will be God who is at work, leading you to no longer produce pollution but rather godliness, purity through His Holy Spirit.

Do you, as a man, pollute everything you touch?

Yes or no?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Off topic: your new profile pic is awesome.

Thanks!

 

[Ophiolite]

Those void of the Spirit produce pollution. The Good News is that you can partake of the Divine Nature.

One must be born again through the Holy Spirit.

What an offer. Corruption verses Divine Nature, front and center.

There are 108 pages in this thread now. I have not read them all. If you have already defined pollution could you point me to the post number. If not, would you define it now please.

 

[Heissonear]

There are 108 pages in this thread now. I have not read them all. If you have already defined pollution could you point me to the post number. If not, would you define it now please.

One aspect is what ever there be becomes like the inside of a garbage bin truck, rank and unsuitable for use.

One example is governing, take a look at the U.S. politics, Russian and Iranian governments.

Towards science an easy example is the use of science by extreme environmentalists, particularly the known organized groups like Greenpeace. They have polluted science, making it rank like a garbage bin behind a restaurant, and unsuitable for use.

All the facets pivot on the nature of Fallen mankind, possessing and passing along a sinful nature.

It is the Holy Spirit that make us different, as we yield to Him working in us, even allowing His Divine Nature to move us to think, act and walk as He leads and directs by a relationship.

Even back in Genesis the Holy Spirit strifed within each person to yield to Him, by free choice in unawares. It is the same today, only the Good News is better known.

Enoch back in Genesis 6 "walked with God". It was true through his yielding, listening, obeying, and being changed in who and how he was by the Holy Spirit striving within him.

We have such Good News clearly presented to us to do the same.

 

[lesliedellow]

Towards science an easy example is the use of science by extreme environmentalists, particularly the known organized groups like Greenpeace. They have polluted science, making it rank like a garbage bin behind a restaurant, and unsuitable for use.

Which is just a thinly disguised way of saying your political views are right wing, and you don't like their relatively left wing politics. Nothing to do with science at all.

 

[Heissonear]

Which is just a thinly disguised way of saying your political views are right wing, and you don't like their relatively left wing politics. Nothing to do with science at all.

Then what is this called? Is it not pollution of science, even data, by man?

No further than from an elite Ivory Tower corrupt crew of scientists.

 

[Heissonear]

Which is just a thinly disguised way of saying your political views are right wing, and you don't like their relatively left wing politics. Nothing to do with science at all.

Whitewash

 

[Ophiolite]

One aspect is what ever there be becomes like the inside of a garbage bin truck, rank and unsuitable for use.

One example is governing, take a look at the U.S. politics, Russian and Iranian governments.

Towards science an easy example is the use of science by extreme environmentalists, particularly the known organized groups like Greenpeace. They have polluted science, making it rank like a garbage bin behind a restaurant, and unsuitable for use.

All the facets pivot on the nature of Fallen mankind, possessing and passing along a sinful nature.

It is the Holy Spirit that make us different, as we yield to Him working in us, even allowing His Divine Nature to move us to think, act and walk as He leads and directs by a relationship.

Even back in Genesis the Holy Spirit strifed within each person to yield to Him, by free choice in unawares. It is the same today, only the Good News is better known.

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Enoch back in Genesis 6 "walked with God". It was true through his yielding, listening, obeying, and being changed in who and how he was by the Holy Spirit striving within him.

We have such Good News clearly presented to us to do the same.

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Thank you for your reply. You have provided a lost of instances in which you believe pollution of science exists, but you have not detailed the nature of the pollution. It is equivalent to me telling an employee that he is lazy and telling him no more than it is evident when he is preparing reports. That provides no specification as to what in his behaviour is lazy. I would appreciate you taking the time to detail what is polluting about the actions in one or more of the scenarios you have painted.

 

[lesliedellow]

Then what is this called? Is it not pollution of science, even data, by man?

It is called fraud, and it is something which occurs in every area of human activity. You might just as well say that religion is polluted by man, or that politics is polluted by man, or that art is polluted by man, or that philosophy is polluted by man, or that..... anything touched by a fallen humanity is polluted by man.

And, by the way, as dishonest as that scientist's actions may have been, they would have had no effect upon the validity of scientific data.

 

[RickG]

Thank you [Heissonear] for your reply. You have provided a lot of instances in which you believe pollution of science exists ...

The pollution is in his argument which misrepresents the greater scientific community.

 

[klutedavid]

Off topic: your new profile pic is awesome.

Hello Jason.

Your profile picture is excellent, your obviously highly educated.

 

[AV1611VET]

Are you suggesting the Gospels were contemporary accounts?

How is it Moses [allegedly] wrote the book of Genesis, which contains specific dialogs, thousands of years after those dialogs took place; yet scientists say the Gospels, which were written only a few years after the fact,* are victims of retroactive falsification?

* Assuming notes weren't taken in real time and used later to compile the Gospels. Something no scientist would have thought to do; and something any scientist today would deny happened.

 

[TLK Valentine]

How is it Moses [allegedly] wrote the book of Genesis, which contains specific dialogs, thousands of years after those dialogs took place; yet scientists say the Gospels, which were written only a few years after the fact,* are victims of retroactive falsification?

* Assuming notes weren't taken in real time and used later to compile the Gospels. Something no scientist would have thought to do; and something any scientist today would deny happened.

You hedged your bet there, AV -- and answered your own question when you said "allegedly."

Of course, Moses not being there, had he written them, he could've had the characters involved say whatever he wanted them to...

 

[RickG]

How is it Moses [allegedly] wrote the book of Genesis, which contains specific dialogs, thousands of years after those dialogs took place; yet scientists say the Gospels, which were written only a few years after the fact,* are victims of retroactive falsification?

* Assuming notes weren't taken in real time and used later to compile the Gospels. Something no scientist would have thought to do; and something any scientist today would deny happened.

Correct, allegedly.