Man Arrested for Causing Trans Anxiety

[Belk]

This is a generally anonymous forum where people don't get fired and lose their source of income for saying something that someone else was "offended" by.
For more well-known people, they have to worry about being "suspended pending an investigation" if something they say is reported (and they're a conservative).

So you are claiming that it should not be legal for a private corporation to hold you accountable to their standards?

Please spare us the idea this only happens to conservatives.

 

[ozso]

Where is it an effective intimidation tactic? Certainly not here. For it to be an effective intimidation tactic people have to be afraid of it? Are you afraid of it? Who is?

While you think people don't care about being labeled as a fascist, bigot, racist, _____phobe etc, that's not reality. Libel and defamation is real. But you'll keep on denying that, and I'm not going to keep playing ping pong with you.

Are you claiming it is unfair to charge people under hate crime laws or that they are used broadly in ways they should not be? Because the only time I have seen people charged with a hate crime is when they committed something that looks like a hate crime. I do not see it being used to silence people or make them conform to an agenda.

You need to broaden your scope and look around more closely.

 

[Aldebaran]

So you are claiming that it should not be legal for a private corporation to hold you accountable to their standards?

Please spare us the idea this only happens to conservatives.

Sounds like you're defending woke standards now. Is that where you were going?

 

[ozso]

Can be or is? I keep seeing all these possible hypothetical maybe futures where something might stop you from being a bigot. Yet, to date, no one is stopped from being a white supremacist. Apparently the all powerful cabal that is going to effect this change needs to step up their game.

You display a very narrow view and understanding. You seem to have your head buried in the sand as they say.

 

[Belk]

While you think people don't care about being labeled as a fascist, bigot, racist, _____phobe etc, that's not reality. Libel and defamation is real. But you'll keep on denying that, and I'm not going to keep playing ping pong with you.

You keep claiming it is an effective tactic yet I see no where that this is the case. I am not required to believe you simply because you proclaim it. Give me evidence. Give me reasoning.

You need to broaden your scope and look around more closely.

No, I don't need to do so. You need to come up with evidence if you want me to take your claims seriously. I'm open to looking at evidence. But you will need something a bit more then "look around".

 

[Belk]

Sounds like you're defending woke standards now. Is that where you were going?

Answer my question and I will answer yours.

 

[Belk]

You display a very narrow view and understanding. You seem to have your head buried in the sand as they say.

No, I just refuse to be so open minded my brains fall out. You have to have evidence to convince me. Not hypothetical hate speech laws and claims of hate crimes being possibly misused.

 

[Ana the Ist]

People getting their faces shot off is worse than stopping people generally being jerks?

That is such a strange attitude.

Anything can be considered offensive to someone.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Different, to America. Where you shoot each other in the face and mouth and yet do nothing to stop it from taking place.

How effective is locking face shooters up? It’s like swishing one ant and then being surprised when your picnic is still ruined.

But the geniuses in America still think locking people up will work; so on it goes. Every other normal country has worked it out. But I supposed the gun industry has to have it’s profits: no matter how many people die.

What "normal country" has worked it out?


In the UK, they stab you and rob you while you bleed out. I suppose that's preferable. In Australia, when your government decides it's time to remove your rights...there's a place to register a complaint on your way to quarantine.

 

[SilverBear]

You're pretending that people aren't intimidated by labels, and that labeling isn't used as an effective intimidation tactic.

Labels like pervert, abomination, pedophile, groomer, are all fine examples of using labels to intimidate people.

No mafia, just a rapidly growing social and political force that's an extension of wokeism. People get charged under the broad scope of "hate crime" all the time.

only if they are actually committing hate crimes.

 

[SilverBear]

In this country we are guaranteed three things; life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I would never object to or interfere with anyone's pursuit of happiness, whatever it may be unless it harms someone else. Whatever makes someone feel happy and fulfilled it's their right to pursue it. But I have a right to disagree. I don't think young kids should be at drag shows. I don't think kids in kindergarten through 4th grade should be discussing sexual orientation or gender identity in school.. I shouldn't be called a bigot because of that. It's not hateful it's just my opinion. If you feel differently that's your opinion. If I had a kid that age they would be in private school. I paid to put my son through private school before this was an issue because I didn't want him to go through what I went through. But some people don't seem to understand that people have a right to disagree with them. When you do you are a bigot, trans phobic or whatever else they want to call you. I'm sure LGBTQ people go through a lot of that. It seems strange that they would do the same thing to other people. I don't know if it's LGBTQ people or just people who support them. But they need to learn there is more than one view and disagreeing with them is not hateful or bigoted.

its good to know that when Pastor Joe Jones of the Shield of Faith Baptist Church stood at the pulpit and called for the slaughter of any and all LGBT individuals hate had nothing to do with his call for mass murder had nothing to do with hate, he was just disagreeing

 

[SilverBear]

They're not spouting Nazi ideology, bigotry, homophobic beliefs, or hatemongering - they're just being accused of it. Just being a conservative Christian automatically comes with those labels these days depending on the crowd. Look at the pressure on the Church to stay silent about sin and go with the secular flow.

the man you mentioned in post #203 tossed a swastika into a conversation about violence against trans people.
So Nazi ideology: check
bigotry: check
homophobic beliefs: reportedly he did it because deserve to be persecuted...so check
hatemongering: check

 

[rjs330]

But with a good explanation included with the symbol, the person using the symbol is just a massive jerk rather than a terrorist.

Maybe he is a jerk. But he doesn't deserve to go to prison for it. That's the point.

 

[rjs330]

How can people tolerate being treated unfairly!?
After decades of being “cancelled” for simply existing, LGBTQIA+ have gotten a tiny, little bit of cultural power and there will be misuses of it from time to time until a new boundary is established.

Do you long for the day when we can “go back to normal” and excise LGBTQIA+ folk when they dare to show themselves?

What are you talking about?

 

[rjs330]

Then you don't have faith in the constitution and the system it supports. The WHOLE idea of the constitution is to limit power and stop people from abuses. If it fails to do so then it is time to move on.

No, it's time to follow it. The left wants to move on. They attack it and then when we try to stop it they say it's time to move on. They try to subvert it and then you want to claim that the subversion is telling us it's time to move on?

No it's time to hold on and stop the subversion.

 

[rjs330]

but all this is true. the Constitution institutionalized slavery and it actually says black people are not fully human or worth the same as a human being.

Misrepresenting again are we. Man you are the king of that.

 

[rjs330]

and all you've done is come rushing to the defense of racists. Good job.

What racists?

 

[rjs330]

and who were the people who were not free?

Who wanted them to count as a full person for the census?

 

[rjs330]

The US Constitution accounting for people who are not free?

What kind of respectable arrangement does that???

Its despicable.

Who wanted them counted and why,? Think man think. Why would slave states want their property counted as a person for the census?

 

[Larniavc]

If the laws are not working the answer is more laws?

Different, better laws. Is that so hard to imagine?