Actually if you use the right chemical means, stop the right chemical reactions going on in the body, life stops. Life IS chemistry.
A two year old can pour sugar in the gas tank of a lawn mower and ruin the engine and make it so it will not run but they cannot design an internal combustion engine. We can remove the components and compounds necessary for life and make it impossible for life to exist in an organism. But we cannot start with everything required and in perfect working order and bring it to life.
Life requires chemistry in order to function but it is not chemistry. I require all the components of my car to function properly for me to drive it but I am not mechanical.
We can remove life, we cannot insert it.
Can you show me this "force" somewhere?
No, not at all, that is just it. You cannot see it. You can only see the results of it's existence.
Why not? Just because we haven't been able to yet create a living being in the lab from raw carbon and hydrogen, I don't see why we cannot. We haven't created a self-sustaining star in the lab yet, but we know how stars work (fusion).
We never have and never will. Life was only created once for each "kind". Since then, this life force has been passed on in each cell replication and organism reproduction.
God breathed life into Adam and through Adam's rib it was passed on to Eve. Then through their biological reproduction, designed by God, this life was passed on to each and every child born. We do not create a new life we create a new human by passing on the life of one living male cell and one living female cell which combine these two living cells to grow into a new human being. Two lives become one.
Good luck trying but life comes only from God and only He allows and grants permission for the time when it is removed from each living being.
But it's not pure random chance, now is it? Chemicals utilize stochastic processes but certain reactions are favored and others disfavored.
Using big words like stochastic is not going to worry me. The world runs on chemical reactions that are predictable and controllable. Many times they are out of control as well. We use them every day and actually count on them for life.
What chemical reaction takes all the elements in this primordial soup and through stochastic processes produces the complexity and wealth of digital information found in even the most simplest organisms DNA?
Since these reactions are processes they should be easily repeated. Let's see you create a protein, just one from a mixture of the raw elements that they are made up of... you cannot. And, in relation to that, let's see the chemical formula for creation of a strand of DNA for even the most basic and simple organism.... even more impossible. Then, the biggy..... bring it to life.... Now your odds are astronomically beyond any comprehension of reasonable.
Man has been trying to do this for years and cannot do it even in carefully engineered and controlled environments. You believe it happened spontaneously?
For instance life has a "homochirality" to many of the chemicals we use in our bodies. This is related to the arrangement of certain atoms in certain positions. The very same atoms arranged in a slightly different order around a single atom would chemically be the same but stereoisometrically quite different, and living systems can only use one of these arrangements. The other is useless.
Isn't this just more proof of how intrinsically delicate the foundation platform must be for life to exist? How many things have to be just perfect for even a sniff of a chance of life existing even if it is set up to exist let alone happen all by chance?
Interestingly enough there are a few candidate mineral surfaces that preferentially adsorb one stereoisomer over another. And this one is the one life uses. Interesting, isn't it? Life may have required non-life to start.
Interesting isn't it that God created life and developed processes for it to function and you state that the process was there and allowed life to spontaneously begin. Chicken/egg. Which was first, Life designed and the process part of life or the process set up by some random law of nature that was there and allowed life to begin?
We actually do know what life is and we know how to create it. We may have not yet done so, but it is not necessarily ipso facto impossible.
IF you know what life is and how to create it, why haven't they? I'm sure it would be all over the world news. Until something is "done" it is impossible. If it was possible, it would have been done.
The only time mankind is going to develop life from no life is going to be a farce anyway. This will be when Satan gives life to the beast. Man will claim it is like God for it created life as He did. But it will be demonic possession from Satan himself and the end will be so near you will be able to taste it.
This is a pretty serious error. Evolution and biogenesis are unrelated topics. Evolution is related to CHANGE in life over time. Abiogenesis is the ORIGIN of life. The origin of life would be a chemical feature, the evolution of life, once created, would be completely different in nature.
So you go through all these arguments to basically say "it doesn't matter, evolution doesn't deal with where life came from"?
Talk about sour grapes... But, no worries, I have heard this so often, "evolution is only about what happened AFTER life began"... Nice dodge of the biggest and most difficult problem.
In my opinion, if you cannot tell me where life came from, then you have no right in telling me how everything that has life got to be what it is either.
The odds of life happening spontaneously DEMANDS that you create every living thing from that one impossible event. This is because the odds of that happening are so insurmountably huge it could never of happened once let alone as many times as would have been necessary for all life forms to spontaneously show up.... alive.
Come to me with a how it started and then maybe you can be more prepared to say how it developed.
Not really. UNLESS you are of the opinion that you have to know exactly how the car was invented and built for you to drive down the street.
I don't need to know how or where life started in order to live it. I don't even have to know how all the different species came to be to feed them watch them eat them etc.
Your point?
Not really. I am a chemist. I pour chemical A into a beaker with Chemical B. They react. I can make the reaction run because I know A+B-->C. Even if I don't know the details of the reaction I can still make it go and I can even characterize it very thoroughly.
Ya, ya, you're a chemist. You work with known reactions. Chemical A plus Chemical B gets chemical C or reaction X. Add some heat and it speeds up, add chemical D and it becomes Chemical Y... Ya, I know, I work in the science field too.
Thing is, with all the knowledge we have of chemistry, biology, physics, etc.... still, if given an organism of perfectly good quality and condition.....YOU CANNOT GIVE IT LIFE.
Not really. People used fire for eons before anyone knew a thing about combustion or the chemistry involved.
Again, your point? People can create fire. We cannot create life.
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