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Interesting posts by everyone.
I am German, and nothing but German.
I married a full blooded German. Therefore...guess what? our kids are German too! 
Our daughter branched out and married an English, French, German, Norwegian, Native American.
Our son, a Norwegian/German.
There are only Lutherans in my backround on both sides of the family....either LCMS or WELS. I was baptised in the LCMS, Confirmed in the WELS. I married a WELS boy. As I've said in other posts, I was raised going to an LCMS church/parochial school, but my parents believed as fundamentalists. It was very confusing. My parents and siblings are no longer Lutheran. I am the only one left. And happy to be one. I'm content where God has placed me.
edit...Forgot to add that our kids both married WELS'ers.
I am German, and nothing but German.
I married a full blooded German.
Therefore...guess what? our kids are German too! Our daughter branched out and married an English, French, German, Norwegian, Native American.
Our son, a Norwegian/German.
There are only Lutherans in my backround on both sides of the family....either LCMS or WELS. I was baptised in the LCMS, Confirmed in the WELS. I married a WELS boy.
As I've said in other posts, I was raised going to an LCMS church/parochial school, but my parents believed as fundamentalists. It was very confusing. My parents and siblings are no longer Lutheran. I am the only one left. And happy to be one. I'm content where God has placed me.edit...Forgot to add that our kids both married WELS'ers.
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Big Norsh and lateblommer have interesting backgrounds.
My biological forbearers where mostly cowboys, flozzies and fighters. Also a mixture of bank robbers and larcenists .Imagine that
Grandpa Charlie was the head foreman at the D.W. Christian ranch in Texas and mom was a "houchy couchy" dancer in bars and a "knock down drag out" fighter. She wouldn't back down from anybody, even the police. She also went crazy from too much booze. Dad was a Air Force jockey and a wimp alcoholic that chased skirts had the morals of a over sexed skunk. His kids are so screwed up because of his antics and loose morals. They made a striking couple with Hollywood good looks but boy were they messed up.
Looks like my background is not quite as delightful as ya'lls. But I'm from Texas so maybe that explains it,
My biological forbearers where mostly cowboys, flozzies and fighters. Also a mixture of bank robbers and larcenists .Imagine that
Grandpa Charlie was the head foreman at the D.W. Christian ranch in Texas and mom was a "houchy couchy" dancer in bars and a "knock down drag out" fighter. She wouldn't back down from anybody, even the police. She also went crazy from too much booze. Dad was a Air Force jockey and a wimp alcoholic that chased skirts had the morals of a over sexed skunk. His kids are so screwed up because of his antics and loose morals. They made a striking couple with Hollywood good looks but boy were they messed up.
Looks like my background is not quite as delightful as ya'lls. But I'm from Texas so maybe that explains it,
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Interesting background? Not really. All farmers, both sides. Family story says that when my great-great-grandfather came over from Norway in the 1870s, his first job in America was construction work in Chicago after the fire. Maybe that's how he earned the money to buy his farm in Iowa.
As for the royalty story, that king lived about 800s or 900s. Viking era. Lots can happen in 1200 years.
As for the royalty story, that king lived about 800s or 900s. Viking era. Lots can happen in 1200 years.
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There is usually something that people don't necessarily bring out right away. For instance on my wife's side the family never talked for years about the apparent brother-sister marriage on the one side.
Well, what it was was with all the orphans in those days, a girl came to live with the one family and ended up married to the one boy. So I guess my wife's family came up with those eyes in the middle of their foreheads honestly (joking).
We all thought it was kind of funny when my one cousin who is just a huge geneology buff, had done all kinds of work on the family tree and she came out to Marker church and looked at the family plot and said, ''Who's this?" We said, "Oh, no one ever told you about Auntie." See Auntie was just a tiny lady, certainly not five feet tall. She ran a house of ill repute for most of her life out in Montana. Guess her father didn't make it a point to tell her about all his aunts.
Auntie never married or had any kids so I guess she was easy to miss.
But you have to ask when coming up to family plots. In the one with great great grandpa Anders Hanson, there is one lady in the plot that doesn't share the name. Turns out she came from the old country to marry the one son, when she got here, he was out in Montana on a job and would return soon for the wedding. She didn't make it to the wedding, she took ill and died. Certainly a sad story.
So don't think I shared everything the first time!
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Well, what it was was with all the orphans in those days, a girl came to live with the one family and ended up married to the one boy. So I guess my wife's family came up with those eyes in the middle of their foreheads honestly (joking).
We all thought it was kind of funny when my one cousin who is just a huge geneology buff, had done all kinds of work on the family tree and she came out to Marker church and looked at the family plot and said, ''Who's this?" We said, "Oh, no one ever told you about Auntie." See Auntie was just a tiny lady, certainly not five feet tall. She ran a house of ill repute for most of her life out in Montana. Guess her father didn't make it a point to tell her about all his aunts.
Auntie never married or had any kids so I guess she was easy to miss.
But you have to ask when coming up to family plots. In the one with great great grandpa Anders Hanson, there is one lady in the plot that doesn't share the name. Turns out she came from the old country to marry the one son, when she got here, he was out in Montana on a job and would return soon for the wedding. She didn't make it to the wedding, she took ill and died. Certainly a sad story.
So don't think I shared everything the first time!
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Another old family story. Someone apparantly thought my great-grandfather had been a bachelor long enough and told him that he ought to get to know Nettie Berg, who was supposed to be the prettiest girl in the county. Grandpa didn't say anything. The wedding invitations had been sent and he married Nettie two weeks later.
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You had me worried for a second, I thought the story about Ole the bachelor farmer was correct.
See Ole was like he was caught in a time warp, still using horses, no fertilizer and no wife.
Well every time there was a new country agent, the farmers would gang up and make him get out to Ole's to try and change his ways.
Well the new county agent was sent one more time, and he looked around and finally he said, "Ole, I see you are no young guy anymore, a tractor would be a lot easier on you than horses, and it looks like your crops are starving, some fertilizer would make a lot of difference, and one other thing. God said it wasn't good for man to be alone and I noticed you don't have a wife and I'm here to tell you a wife is a good thing."
Well Ole thought for a second and he answered, "Yes, I was thinking my legs were starting to hurt too much that it was time for a tractor, and I have seen my crops and my neighbor's and I believe you are right about the fertilizer, but as for a wife, my father was a bachelor, my grandfather was a bachelor, and if it was good enough for them it's good enough for me!"
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See Ole was like he was caught in a time warp, still using horses, no fertilizer and no wife.
Well every time there was a new country agent, the farmers would gang up and make him get out to Ole's to try and change his ways.
Well the new county agent was sent one more time, and he looked around and finally he said, "Ole, I see you are no young guy anymore, a tractor would be a lot easier on you than horses, and it looks like your crops are starving, some fertilizer would make a lot of difference, and one other thing. God said it wasn't good for man to be alone and I noticed you don't have a wife and I'm here to tell you a wife is a good thing."
Well Ole thought for a second and he answered, "Yes, I was thinking my legs were starting to hurt too much that it was time for a tractor, and I have seen my crops and my neighbor's and I believe you are right about the fertilizer, but as for a wife, my father was a bachelor, my grandfather was a bachelor, and if it was good enough for them it's good enough for me!"
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I was raised Brethren (then went to a non-denominational church) as my grandfather was Brethren and my went to a Brethren church growing up. My grandma's side is all Lutheran (German Pennsylvanians).
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No, Rad, no Sven or Oly in my family that I know of. There was an Ollie though.
Ollie Heimfardt was one of the first Hessians impressed by the Duke of Hess for General Gage's (I think) campaign in the northern colonies. He was captured early on by colonial regulars and offered a choice between indenture and the prison barges in Boston Harbour. Ollie chose indenture. After all, it wasn't much different from how the peasantry was treated in Europe, in his opinion. Best of all, it lasted only seven years. He liked the prospects so much that he wrote his brothers telling them to volunteer for service to the Duke. Ollie further instructed them to throw their weapon down and surrender to the first Colonial Regular they came across. He felt the indenture was a great deal as when it was over they could all move west and take advantage of all that free land, with no aristocracy to interrfere or tax them to death.
Well, out of seven sons, six ended up in the colonies. The brothers tried to smuggle their eldest brother out, but the Duke's agents found him in the crate and sent him home. Seems his father and the Duke weren't happy about him sneaking off.
My maternal Grandmum's family settled in Michigan, one of the first groups to do so. They ended up, amoung their many relations, to own most of the northern part of the state. Still do hold a lot of it, as a matter of fact. My maternal grandfather was a (git
) Brit. His father was a doctor of some renown in Great Britan and moved to Michigan just after the civil war, married a Canadian, and produced a (git ) son. The wedding of my Grandparents was similar to that of Gertie and the Salesman in Oklahoma. Only, in his case, his own father was standing on the other side of him with yet another shotgun. The Wilsons were Methodists as such was Mary Ellen Heimforth-Wilson, before she married. I'm sure the Heimforths (Americanized) were Lutheran when they left Germany, but that went by the wayside over the years. As far as I know (which is very little admittedly) they're all still Methodists and Presbyterians.
Dad's side contained some bonified heathans. See, my Grandmother was Sioux, a Native American. Gran-Da didn't know this though, at first. See, Great GD learned english from an Irishman. He had the accent down so well everyone in Canada thought he was Irish. So, he cut off his braids, moved his family to Chicago and pretended to be 'Black Irish.' Back in the day, being N.A. and off the reservation without permission meant a prison sentance. Add to that, he was persona non grata, public enemy no. two, having been one of the leaders during the Sioux rebellion that led to their flight over the Canadian border. Gran-Da found this out on his wedding day. My Grandmother (another Mary by the way...) was a day-maid for several rather wealthy families in the Chicago area. She spoke German, French, Itallian, and of course, English, all fluently. So too did her children. I understand it was truely a cacopony of all four languages at the table each night. The German family lead her to the Lord and her children (all thirteen of them) were hence raised Lutheran. Most of them still are, though some have gone Roman Catholic. Go figure.
Though she was confirmed a Lutheran, my mother never fully accepted it. We belonged to a church which practiced 'Lutheran Pietism'. Alienated my mother and made an athiest out of my eldest brother. My father had a knock down drag out fight with the other church council members about the youth ministry and Boy Scouts. He lost and the scouts lost the Scout-house they had built and paid for themselves. They and the youth group were sumarily disbanded. One of the oldest Scout Troops in California. Hence my Father fell away from the Lutheran Church as well. He was re-baptised into an independent Baptist sort of church just before he died and re-confirmed his faith. I have been very thankful for that over the years.
As for myself? I drifted around a lot searching. When I became betrothed to Robin, I insisted we attend church. She had children and they had attended church (First Christian) with their Grandmother. It was important that they didn't lose that. We ended up back at a Lutheran church. It became ELCA. I left for the LCMS when the 'Statement On Human Sexuality' was released.
To paraphrase our founder, 'So here I remain, I can do no other, God help me.'
Forgive me, please, for going on so long...
Ollie Heimfardt was one of the first Hessians impressed by the Duke of Hess for General Gage's (I think) campaign in the northern colonies. He was captured early on by colonial regulars and offered a choice between indenture and the prison barges in Boston Harbour. Ollie chose indenture. After all, it wasn't much different from how the peasantry was treated in Europe, in his opinion. Best of all, it lasted only seven years. He liked the prospects so much that he wrote his brothers telling them to volunteer for service to the Duke. Ollie further instructed them to throw their weapon down and surrender to the first Colonial Regular they came across. He felt the indenture was a great deal as when it was over they could all move west and take advantage of all that free land, with no aristocracy to interrfere or tax them to death.
Well, out of seven sons, six ended up in the colonies. The brothers tried to smuggle their eldest brother out, but the Duke's agents found him in the crate and sent him home. Seems his father and the Duke weren't happy about him sneaking off.
My maternal Grandmum's family settled in Michigan, one of the first groups to do so. They ended up, amoung their many relations, to own most of the northern part of the state. Still do hold a lot of it, as a matter of fact. My maternal grandfather was a (git
) Brit. His father was a doctor of some renown in Great Britan and moved to Michigan just after the civil war, married a Canadian, and produced a (git ) son. The wedding of my Grandparents was similar to that of Gertie and the Salesman in Oklahoma. Only, in his case, his own father was standing on the other side of him with yet another shotgun. The Wilsons were Methodists as such was Mary Ellen Heimforth-Wilson, before she married. I'm sure the Heimforths (Americanized) were Lutheran when they left Germany, but that went by the wayside over the years. As far as I know (which is very little admittedly) they're all still Methodists and Presbyterians.Dad's side contained some bonified heathans. See, my Grandmother was Sioux, a Native American. Gran-Da didn't know this though, at first. See, Great GD learned english from an Irishman. He had the accent down so well everyone in Canada thought he was Irish. So, he cut off his braids, moved his family to Chicago and pretended to be 'Black Irish.' Back in the day, being N.A. and off the reservation without permission meant a prison sentance. Add to that, he was persona non grata, public enemy no. two, having been one of the leaders during the Sioux rebellion that led to their flight over the Canadian border. Gran-Da found this out on his wedding day. My Grandmother (another Mary by the way...) was a day-maid for several rather wealthy families in the Chicago area. She spoke German, French, Itallian, and of course, English, all fluently. So too did her children. I understand it was truely a cacopony of all four languages at the table each night. The German family lead her to the Lord and her children (all thirteen of them) were hence raised Lutheran. Most of them still are, though some have gone Roman Catholic. Go figure.
Though she was confirmed a Lutheran, my mother never fully accepted it. We belonged to a church which practiced 'Lutheran Pietism'. Alienated my mother and made an athiest out of my eldest brother. My father had a knock down drag out fight with the other church council members about the youth ministry and Boy Scouts. He lost and the scouts lost the Scout-house they had built and paid for themselves. They and the youth group were sumarily disbanded. One of the oldest Scout Troops in California. Hence my Father fell away from the Lutheran Church as well. He was re-baptised into an independent Baptist sort of church just before he died and re-confirmed his faith. I have been very thankful for that over the years.
As for myself? I drifted around a lot searching. When I became betrothed to Robin, I insisted we attend church. She had children and they had attended church (First Christian) with their Grandmother. It was important that they didn't lose that. We ended up back at a Lutheran church. It became ELCA. I left for the LCMS when the 'Statement On Human Sexuality' was released.
To paraphrase our founder, 'So here I remain, I can do no other, God help me.'
Forgive me, please, for going on so long...
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Really? I think some members of our Pastor's family was just over there....i know quite a few good els!! just spent time in ukraine with a bunch of them
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When I first read that, I thought it was "I know quite a few good eels!!" relating it to a previous post on:
And I thought, would eels be better than lutefisk?
In Christ's love,
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Well, I don't remember if it was Pastor's daughter's family, or son, but the last names might be Smith, or Flohr. There's another married daughter but I don't remember the last name...well who are they??? i may have met them!!
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