Lusting again...............

[lilbobby86]

How it all fits together


Sexual awakening >>>>
PUBERTY



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LUST AWAKENS



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CONTROL LUST
<<<<CHOICES
>>>>FEED LUST
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PORN: NONE



PORN: LOTS|||

|||REGULAR MASTURBATION
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NO MASTURBATION

COMPULSIVE MASTURBATION
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WET DREAMS: UNLIKELY

WET DREAMS: MOST LIKELY

WET DREAMS: UNLIKELY
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SELF-ESTEEM: BETTER

SELF ESTEEM: GOOD

SELF-ESTEEM: POOR
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GUILT: NONE OR SOME

GUILT: NONE

GUILT: LOTS
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|||PASSION: CONTROLLED

PASSION: NO CONTROL

PASSION: CONTROLLED
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|||RELATIONSHIPS: GOOD

RELATIONSHIPS: ?

RELATIONSHIPS: POOR
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|||RECOMMENDED: GOOD BALANCE THAT ALL GUYS CAN ACHIEVE

NOT RECOMMENDED NOT POSSIBLE FOR MOST GUYS

NOT RECOMMENDED CAUSES MANY PROBLEMS LATER ON

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[Heinrich]

Yes that's like telling somebody he shouldn't stop smoking because that will put him in danger of smoking maruana or start doing drugs.

It's not about masturbation that is the outflow of other things in your mind. If you get to turn that of the result might also stop. If not well then it would be ok I'll guess.

Tell me? Do you think your girlfriend (or maybe anygirl) will be pleased to hear you fantasize about having sex with her while masturbating?

TRUE LOVE is not LUSTFULL

 

[doclkk]

you first have to solidify if it's true love or true lust

 

[michael112174]

i have been struggling with touching yourself since i was saved march 16, 2003. at first i didnt realize how wrong it was, but then as i began to grow in my walk...man, i knew i was sinning. i have prayed over and over to have God take this temptation away, and for about a week it was gone...but then it came back. ironically porn is not a problem for me, i despise it now....my problem is looking at girls in bikinis, lingerie, revealing clothing etc. the "tease" is my hook. i want to quit so bad, i dont like doing it. i was recently laid off, and having all this time on my hands, i fell victim to touching yourself excessively to give myself "pleasure". i know its wrong, and after reading a lot of the posts, i feel like i know what i need to do. I am going to keep praying about this. Thank you guys for the encouragement.

 

[Kirisutokyoo-shinja]

Well simply put, masturbation does not work without sexual thought.
Which is to easily say why you get nowhere.
I have not read anything but the original post, please forgive me if
someone else has voiced this.

 

[Tride]

Well, of course masturbation doesn't work without any sexual thoughts at all, but it's certainly possible to do it without lusting after someone.

 

[Markh]

touching yourself without sexual thoughts it also wrong as you are seeking the pleasure not intended to be associated to touching yourself.

I've been clean for about 4 months....

however, I get wet dreams every few weeks, I wouldn't have them If I hadn't delved into things I shouldn't have.

but I hate the thought of masterbating again, I know I will never. The idea doesn't seem attractive to me anymore and although it may happen in dreams....through prayer and staying away from reflecting on those dreams and being away from lust situations will eventually make these natural nocturnal emissions without any temptation involved.

 

[Lia]

I would suggest to check out the new book of Joshua Harris, "Not Even A Hint". He's a senior pastor at my church. It is a good book for man/woman in battling with lust, masturbation and the such.

 

[Tride]

"touching yourself without sexual thoughts it also wrong as you are seeking the pleasure not intended to be associated to touching yourself."

Says who?

 

[michael112174]

ive been clean for 2 days! my friend on my xxxchurch list held me accountable for a couple of webcam sites i went to. i want to defeat lust so bad, i will do whatever it takes.

 

[deg]

Free for 2 Days! Praise the Lord! I found that the 3rd day was always the hardest. I have an interesting story to tell. I was saved Nov 30, 2002, and had ALL truly sinful desires taken from me (all the drugs and alcohol and sex I was involved in at university). No kidding, I was free indeed, except for that little nagging problem of touching yourself. For a few weeks I looked at porn, then that settled down behind a real fear of God. I'm not kidding, I was afraid of God because of what I was doing. There is one particular incident where I sensed the Lord raising His hand as if to hit me, mid session. I didn't look at the stuff for a long, long time, but fought a losing battle against masterbating itself.

Finally I read Job 31:1+2, and I made that covenant with the Lord. I even offered my children; I told the Lord I did not want children, they were to be uprooted, if I could not stop this foul habit. I have not masterbated since then, roughly 6 months ago, and it was my offering which kicked me in the butt to stop, andhas kept me clean. Whenever I get the temptation, I think of my dear children. I knew the offering I had made the Lord would keep. I offered them freely, and I truly didn't deserve them unless I was free of such decay.

The devil often attacks me here. I stay as close to the Lord as I can in my own power, but every so often, about once a month or so, I have a barrage of lust filled dreams, pouring on every facet of sexual sin one can imagine. Often they don't even end in a "release," I only wake up feeling filthy, sinful, and separated from the God whom I love so dearly. It seems out of my power; often I have prayed over my dreams the night they occur, and I cannot seem to stop the onslaught. In regular day to day sleep, however, I have regular dreams, mostly free of anything sinful. I am free of porn, and masturbation, but the battle over my soul is still raging in the battleground of my dreams! Does anyone have any insight or Word through the Spirit?

 

[michael112174]

good encouragement here , brother!

 

[72_Chev_Truck]

I suggest reading every mans battle! After I read it and followed its advice it was like a huge weight was lifted off me and no more sexual thoughts

 

[michael112174]

since last friday, ive slipped up once(monday morning).......Praise God for giving me the strength on this battle.

 

[Vilnius]

It is absurd to think something bad will happen if you do not touch. If your body really wants you to expell sperm, you will have a wet dream. The sex drive is very strong, but lets face it, it is what you allow yourself to dwell on that takes that drive to the point where you feel you must touch. If you stop dwelling on lustful images on TV, movies, magazines, etc; if you stop entertaining lustful fantasies, if you stop looking lustfully at the women you encounter daily, you will greatly reduce the arousal that leads to masturbation. Also, lets face it, if you are touching your penis for anything but urinating or washing it for five seconds or less, you are masturbating.

Get your mind and eyes off of lustfull images, and get your hands off your self, and pray frequently and you will get there. But it is a daily fight, even after you are married. You really have to work at it. For example, I do not even walk down the isle at the grocery that has the magazines because 20% of the covers have very immoestly dressed women--you must flee temptation or you will slip. I have a rule not even to turn the TV on unless my wife is with me. I guess I can tell you I started masturbating when I was about eleven and soon became addicted. Years later when I met my wife it really caused some serious problems because she felt I was being unloyal. At the time I was not familiar with Jesus' words: He who looks lustfully at a woman has committed adultry in his heart. After I took those words to heart, it changed our life so much for the better. It is still a struggle, but at least now I am struggleing and not risking my marriage. If you are lusting now, nothing magical happens when you marry to stop you. Those lustful looks at swimsuit issues, or underwear ads, or at that young girl in the short shorts, will build a wall between you and you wife. The sad thing is most non-Christians never hear this and stumble ignorantly into a world of masturbation of lust and miss what God had planned for them.

Hey, I am a reformed masturbator, who struggles with his eyes still, so I could go on and on, but I will end here. If you need help, write again.

 

[Living4Him03]

um......reading what? If I'm reading Penthouse forums, then I'm still lusting.
I think that girls can probably do it with out thinking lustfully about other people because they are different creatures. I think that girls are more about 'feelings', while us guys are more about the visual aspect. If I'm reading something, then I'm also closing my eyes and thinking visually.

wrong. nope. guys are funny. they think they've got us all figured out

i personally cannot do that without thinking about a guy in some way, and i don't mean "feelings" ...give women some credit okay? Do you think God gave men certain bodies just because? The male body is desirable...how do you think wives can do it with their husbands when they are still mad at them? They still find their husband hot.

 

[Sketcher]

Well, of course masturbation doesn't work without any sexual thoughts at all, but it's certainly possible to do it without lusting after someone.

I second the first part. For the second part, you'd have to define lust.

Honestly, masturbation without thinking of the opposite sex does not work for me. In fact, I think it's well, gay.

Now, I've been able to pull it off without thinking of X rated fantasies a couple times. Specifically, the thoughts were more PG-13 at most, just thinking about how wonderful the woman is, and how cool it would be if I were together with her. (It happens about 1% of the time). Some would say even that is lust. Others would say it has to be "raunchier". Either way it's sexual, but is there a line between "clean and proper" sexual and "Biblically indecent" sexual?

It's also about more than just release. Do it once, you'll want to do it again. The lust in your heart grows, and it is seperate from the rest of your body. It's feeding a nasty nature, that will not stop even when you physically need to, unless you take control of it. I can't let some of it live and expect to control it.

 

[Spicy McHaggis]

...but I've also heard that there is NO harm in NOT masturbating. To each there own.

NEW RULE.

No one is allowed to use the phrase "to each their own" in a masturbation thread anymore, starting now.

 

[Echoes Peak]

NEW RULE.

No one is allowed to use the phrase "to each their own" in a masturbation thread anymore, starting now.

Ok, Ian..just STOP Talking.... .

 

[Spicy McHaggis]

Ok, Ian..just STOP Talking.... .

This wasn't as bad as the "Group Hug" in an anal sex thread, but yeah, we need to FOCUS.