Lusting again...............

[Xen_Antares]

I am sorry but that is a myth that has been told through so many generations I didn't think that anyone believed it anymore. If there is a build up, your body will naturally get rid of it ie: wet dreams. Look it up if you want.

Then you want to know about shame, thats what a wet dream would do. Its very shameful to have to get up in the middle of the night to change your drawers, or your sheets. I like to have a little bit of control over such a thing, and touching yourself does give back a little element of control to it.

 

[Breetai]

I've only ever had one wet dream. That was after I'd quit masterbating for a couple of months. Go figure.

 

[lilbobby86]

Its like I said earlier. We have to touch. However, we don't have to do it with an associated sexual lust in our minds. That's my problem. I want to know any easy ways to stop lusting.

 

[Xen_Antares]

I dont know, think of baseball when youre doing it

 

[lilbobby86]

I dont know, think of baseball when youre doing it

........but i don't like baseball

 

[Xen_Antares]

........but i don't like baseball

So whats the problem then? You wont be lusting while you think about it, just taking care of business.

 

[Breetai]

Little Johnny- "guys, I have to go the washroom for a minute...."
Little Johnny's buddy- "sure man, a number one or a number two?"
Little Johnny- "number three"
Little Johnny's buddy- "a number three?"
Little Johnny- "nevermind, I'm just taking care of business......"

 

[superdave]

I do not think you can touch without Sexual Thoughts- and Breetai what do you mean by it changes your view of women, not for the better? I can be a testament that girls seemed to get along with me WAY better when I wasn't in sexual sin.

 

[Heinrich]

As human beings, we have to touch. Especially guys. If you don't touch, you'll eventually develope a testosterone build up which causes cancer and other sexual related diseases.

mmm.. NOPE! I don't think this is true.

At the start of 2003 I was still addicted to both porn and masturbation.
As God started moving into my life and started fixing things I lost the porn addiction. It was quite a big step of deleting all the porn from my pc and burning the FHM & swimwear mags. Yes that's not pr0n but it what must go must go.
I did ask God to help me with my porn addiction and he did! How wonderfull.

The thing is that in this process I stopped the masturbation also.. I never thought this possible at the time. I never planned on it. But when I opened my eyes it was Gone.
Now what about wet-dreams you ask? Well since I was addicted to porn I had millions of bad sexual lusty dreams and lots of wett dreams.. (even while masturbating) After getting of the porn source, I started praying for the dreams to go away. And guess what it did!
wet-dreams.. no I don't have those anymore.. I seem to wake up at night when "things happen" :-D

ok this sounds very freaky and You possibly think I'm some kind of a freak!

I do not say you must stop masturbating! (Getting of porn would be a grt idea)
All I'm saying is that it is possibly to live without masturbation.

 

[Breetai]

I meant that pornography, not touching yourself, makes me look lustfully at women. It makes me want girls whom I have never met. I would see a beautiful girls and want to be with her, I would visualize us having sex. Without pornography, I believe that I respect women more as human beings then simply objects of desire.

 

[doclkk]

guys play with girl's bodies, girl's play guy's minds ...

 

[Brooke]

The subject of porn addiction and lusting scares me. It looks to me like nothing but a great abyss of darkness. What's worse, it's extremely easy to get into.

To those that feel shame after doing it but can't seem to stop...masturbation feels like a good idea right before you do it, but afterwards, when the high has worn off, you realize the magnetism of what you've done. Use that feeling of realization to keep from doing it next time, and after you have overcome the urge without acting on it, you'll feel good about yourself.
But if one goes along with it, the feeling of dirtiness stays with you awhile. And you will probably look up one day and realize that it has increased your dirty thoughts. You don't necessarily have to be thinking lusty thoughts while in the act, but your general everyday train of thought might turn lustier...do you get what I'm saying?

 

[Breetai]

guys play with girl's bodies, girl's play guy's minds ...

So very true. Some girls are nice, but in so many cases, you are so right.

 

[lilbobby86]

mmm.. NOPE! I don't think this is true.

At the start of 2003 I was still addicted to both porn and masturbation.
As God started moving into my life and started fixing things I lost the porn addiction. It was quite a big step of deleting all the porn from my pc and burning the FHM & swimwear mags. Yes that's not pr0n but it what must go must go.
I did ask God to help me with my porn addiction and he did! How wonderfull.

The thing is that in this process I stopped the masturbation also.. I never thought this possible at the time. I never planned on it. But when I opened my eyes it was Gone.
Now what about wet-dreams you ask? Well since I was addicted to porn I had millions of bad sexual lusty dreams and lots of wett dreams.. (even while masturbating) After getting of the porn source, I started praying for the dreams to go away. And guess what it did!
wet-dreams.. no I don't have those anymore.. I seem to wake up at night when "things happen" :-D

ok this sounds very freaky and You possibly think I'm some kind of a freak!

I do not say you must stop masturbating! (Getting of porn would be a grt idea)
All I'm saying is that it is possibly to live without masturbation.

I disagree. When a person stops masturbation, the build up still takes place. The pressure of sexual urge will be so great, you won't be able to control it unless you touch. By not masturbating at all, you may be putting yourself in danger here. Check out www.boysunderattack.com if you havn't already. Its a great website for people who have trouble or want to learn more about masturbation and how its sopposed to work in our daily lives.

 

[mathias1979]

You're using that website to justify your own actions because you don't want to stop what you're doing. I've been there too, trying to use whatever I could to justify my addictions to pornography and masturbation so I wouldn't have to give them up. That website is no authority, God is the authority. "God did not make our bodies, then make it necessary for us to sin in order to keep our bodies healthy."

Try focusing on God every morning when you wake up, and make him the last thought on your mind when you go to bed.

I masturbated nearly every day for over a decade, but now I have been free for 2 months and you know what? There is no tension to relieve. Believe it or not, I have more days where I have the desire NOT to touch than I do days when I am tempted to give in to temptation.

For anyone who has a habit of viewing pornography or masturbation, I urge you to check out this site.

http://www.settingcaptivesfree.com

These addictions, if they are allowed to continue, can be dangerious and can ruin marriages and lives. That site will help you to focus on God and live a more pure life. It is only through the grace of God that I have been able to break my addiction to pornography and masturbation. I'm scared to think of how far I would've gone to feed these addictions had I allowed them to continue.

-Matt

 

[superdave]

I meant that pornography, not touching yourself, makes me look lustfully at women. It makes me want girls whom I have never met. I would see a beautiful girls and want to be with her, I would visualize us having sex. Without pornography, I believe that I respect women more as human beings then simply objects of desire.

LOL!- I am sorry man, I sometime read the forums quickly and then I type my responses quickly... I get what you said.

There is no one that can justify Masturbation. It's wrong... I feel shame doing it- even when porn is not involved and since [porn] is tightly connected to masturbation- I think at least for me, even If I tried to do it with a clean mind- I would get bored and try to find wood for the fire. Using things such as "Baseball" will not work. You might start on Baseball and then you will think of the girls in the stands or something. I am sorry, that's the way my mind operates- and I don't think I am the only one.

 

[JVAC]

Heh heh, some of this sounds like Queen Victoria's advice to her daughter about sex, "Close your eyes and think of England!"

 

[Breetai]

"Close your eyes and think of England!"

LOL

you just made my day!

 

[Heinrich]

I disagree. When a person stops masturbation, the build up still takes place. The pressure of sexual urge will be so great, you won't be able to control it unless you touch. By not masturbating at all, you may be putting yourself in danger here. Check out www.boysunderattack.com if you havn't already. Its a great website for people who have trouble or want to learn more about masturbation and how its sopposed to work in our daily lives.

Great your entitled to dissagree but I'm only giving you the facts to what I live.
1. I am not addicted to pornography anymore.
2. I do not touch for months now.
(And even if I will to fall like all christians do it wouldn't change that fact of what God did in my life the past year)

Both these things are degrading and destroys life. John 10:10 - The thief comes to steal, kill & destroy! and he will lie also to you to get you to destroy it

(I think this is a good time to mention that I'm 21 years old and single)

Yes the build up still takes place. But it takes alot longer now since my life isn't running around thoughts of naked women all the time and each time I see a girl I don't think how she would look naked. (all that is results of porn addiction ect ect)
When it finally comes to the point where it must come out. well then it does. But I DO NOT HAVE SEXUAL DREAMS OVER IT MOST OF THE TIMES.
(most of this depends on my closeness with God.. when I start to drift away I seem to be more likely to get DISCUSTING sexual dreams again.)
I'm not gonna give you the details you are a man I think.

No I do not put myself at danger by not masturbating because I I am not SEX driven now and the change I would follow my fleshly desires and do something with a girl which I should not do is less. So I am actually more in control and further from danger.

Thanks for the web-site. Actually I learned about masturbation and pornography throught personal experience.

I just like to say this about the web-site:
(Masturbation section)

Some surveys went on to say there was no difference in the rate of masturbation between boys brought up in a Christian environment compared to those brought up without Christian influence. The boys from Christian backgrounds did, however, feel more guilt over masturbation.

This is because of wrong or just plain no teaching. Basicly children are taught that it is wrong and nothing more. By the time my dad worked up the nerve to talk to me about sex I was well into porn! And have already heard everything in a non christian form from my friends who I think called themself christians.
If you haven't been told it is wrong you won't feel guilty. As I've mentioned I did not say it is wrong or you should stop, I only said I stopped.

The best advice seems to be that if find the need to touch, then to accept it as a normal part of your being.

I guess if I tell you I don't get this "need to touch" anymore just like I don't get the "need to watch porn" anymore you will not believe me?

Weird things happen when I do stop masturbating!
(Go read the web-site If you want to get the rest of it)

This is not because you stop masturbating or because of hormonal build-up or whatever! It is a fact that masturbating is a sexual release form. YES! But the reason this web-site think you need it is because they think as a man you should be led around by your dick?
See it is not about stop masturbating. It's about turning off that constant feed of sexual information in your life. I didn't stop masturbating by will. It happened almost by itself when I turned of the porn and all the sexual stuff. Yes even desktop girls and FHM and swimwear mags. EVERYTHING.
Learn to see girls/women as God created human beings with a soul and spirit.
When you can look and took to a girl without staring at her breasts you've come some way. And pretty soon you will not think about sex when you see a girl.

Paul said to timothy to "flee from worldly lusts" This means RUN AWAY! (can somebody help me with a scripture?)

That whole web-site is based on the simple line
"Control your fleshly lusts with masturbation" This isn't very biblical as far as I'm concerned.
Some people can commit murder and not feel guilty so I'm not gonna fall for there guilt ****. It's not about feeling guilty or not!

You can't go into marraige being porn addicted and using masturbation to get rid of sexual lusts! Then you'll probably see your wife as a sex object and USE her te get rid of sexual "tool" to get rid of your sexual lusts and then your marraige will get SEX orientated and sex will not be a expression of LOVE as it's suppose to be. You might then even still have sexual feelings towards other women putting yourself in danger of an afair..

Remember we live in an environment where the media constantly put all this sexual stuff infront of you and pornography is easier to get to than ever before. Resist my dear friends before it destroys you!

 

[middo]

Masturbation is a cruel sin, it is very easy to get into and VERY hard to stop. I had my very first wet dream after i stopped masturbating for a while and this sent me back to the habit. There is a good case, in my mind, for not having the problem of wet dreams if youve NEVER looked at porn and other lustful things etc, but once u have, and u quit masturbating we seem to invariably start having wet dreams. I do believe through God i will eventually quit, and i am trying my hardest. It is possible to do it without lustful thoughts but 9/10 once u start your control of not thinking lustful thoughts goes out the window and u start fantasizing. So trying to think of/do something else, and praying to God to me seem to be the only way of stopping sinning, as lustful touching yourself in particular is a sin. Masturbation WITHOUT lust i am not sure of just yet but i am leaning towards it being a sin also.