Lunar Water

[Nathan Poe]

I see no reason why not.

My friend the amateur herpetologist (that's the study of reptiles to those of you playing along at home) would be very pleased to hear that -- she had amassed quite the collection of snakes and lizards over the years, many of which, sadly, are no longer with us.

I'm sure she'll love the prospect of arriving in heaven with Faust, her favorite Ball Python, in one hand -- and an apple in the other

 

[Sanguis]

If animals can go to heaven for being "saved", then animals who aren't saved, do they go to Hell?

I can imagine Hell being very overrun with moggys, and rats, and tigers, and dogs, and elephants, and kangaroos and every other animal to've ever existed, that hasn't been "saved".

If I die and Heaven really exists, do I get to go to Hell and see my cat, again?

 

[Cabal]

Lulz at Dad's pathetic attempt at algebraic formula using things that don't exist.

(X + G + H + Y + C + (C^2)) x (JK) = A

X represents the Orcs in Sauron's army.
G represents the Goblins in Sauron's army.
H represents the Fighting Uruk'hai in Saruman's army.
Y represents the trolls in Sauron's army.
C represents the Ring Wraiths.

J represents the power of the One Ring
K represents the will of Sauron, exerted over the land of Mordor, where the shadows lie.
A represents the overall power of Sauron.

I'm personally finding the notion of assigning a finite speed to the will of God somewhat amusing. It's not like the guy's supposed to be omnipotent or anything.

You gotta love how clueless these guys are when they start talking about their personal theologies.

 

[Gracchus]

Interesting word choice.

Who are "we"? The majority?

I don't think anyone will be offended if you include yourself out. After all you have already included yourself out of the human race. (Homo sapiens)

Does abortion-on-demand count? Or does infanticide, that you guys like to accuse God of, only apply after they are born?

Actually, god aborts about one third of all fertilized human eggs. And if we go down that road, does war count, or capital punishment?

 

[dad]

Lulz at Dad's pathetic attempt at algebraic formula using things that don't exist.
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I agree. Neither the new heavens state, of the former state exist. Go figure.

 

[dad]

My friend the amateur herpetologist (that's the study of reptiles to those of you playing along at home) would be very pleased to hear that -- she had amassed quite the collection of snakes and lizards over the years, many of which, sadly, are no longer with us.

I'm sure she'll love the prospect of arriving in heaven with Faust, her favorite Ball Python, in one hand -- and an apple in the other

Well, I was thinking about the mammals. The creatures with a soul. Not only that, but remember, that things are likely going to hyper evolve right back to the created kinds. So some people that are believers might find some pets look a little different. If you have a pet lion, it will eat grass.

 

[dad]

If animals can go to heaven for being "saved", then animals who aren't saved, do they go to Hell?

I can imagine Hell being very overrun with moggys, and rats, and tigers, and dogs, and elephants, and kangaroos and every other animal to've ever existed, that hasn't been "saved".

If I die and Heaven really exists, do I get to go to Hell and see my cat, again?

Hell, no. But whether they live on, I don't know, I can't see why?

 

[dad]

I'm personally finding the notion of assigning a finite speed to the will of God somewhat amusing. It's not like the guy's supposed to be omnipotent or anything.

You gotta love how clueless these guys are when they start talking about their personal theologies.

Oh, heavens no. God does stuff for limited creatures. Like make a lot of stars for signs for us. How nice. Not every little light in a sign of lights goes on at once, notice? Otherwise we wouldn't get the message. So, it stands to reason that some stars needed to have their light shine on men faster or slower, or maybe not at all sometimes. A living, pulsating universe, in sync with the will of God. I might add, in sync, most likely to the will of Adam as well. Master of the universe, in a way. Shame we lost so much believing the present state con artist.

 

[dad]

I don't think anyone will be offended if you include yourself out. After all you have already included yourself out of the human race. (Homo sapiens)

Actually, god aborts about one third of all fertilized human eggs. And if we go down that road, does war count, or capital punishment?

Capital punishment, if fairly judged, doesn't count. That is given to man to do. The less than perfect state of sinful man, will see many things out of whack with the way God created and wants it. In heaven, if kids are born, we won't see some unborn due to such imperfections as now exist.

But abortion and murder are directly opposed to God's command to man.

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't think anyone will be offended if you include yourself out. After all you have already included yourself out of the human race. (Homo sapiens)

Good point --- Darwin's book, The Preservation of Favoured Races, does not apply to me.

 

[AV1611VET]

In heaven, if kids are born, we won't see some unborn due to such imperfections as now exist.

That's right.

And there will be no paperweights in Heaven with little hands and feet in them.

 

[thaumaturgy]

I'm personally finding the notion of assigning a finite speed to the will of God somewhat amusing. It's not like the guy's supposed to be omnipotent or anything.

You gotta love how clueless these guys are when they start talking about their personal theologies.

Frankly I'm just fascinated that in "God-Math"

A*B/C = C*A

God does indeed work in mysterious ways. Almost like a guy who couldn't make it through 7th grade algebra. But, like Job, who am I to question God?

 

[thaumaturgy]

Well, I was thinking about the mammals. The creatures with a soul.

Hmmm, how do we determine if something has a "soul" or not. Now, of course I could hypothesize that it is based solely on what Dad likes, but I'll grant that souls are a function of reproductive biology and warm-bloodedness.

Maybe brain size? The mammalian brain has some features the reptilian brain lacks.

I think we need to drill down on this one a bit. Perhaps another thread since it has little to do with the moon. But it could be very important to know which animals have souls and more importantly how Dad knows!

Not only that, but remember, that things are likely going to hyper evolve right back to the created kinds. So some people that are believers might find some pets look a little different. If you have a pet lion, it will eat grass.

You can always hope! Frankly the thought of angels battling raging lions in heaven seems to have the makings of a fine graphic novel in it somewhere.

 

[AV1611VET]

Frankly the thought of angels battling raging lions in heaven seems to have the makings of a fine graphic novel in it somewhere.

Very interesting comment here --- very.

I wonder how many "fine graphic novels" were written in Nero's time.

 

[dad]

Hmmm, how do we determine if something has a "soul" or not. Now, of course I could hypothesize that it is based solely on what Dad likes, but I'll grant that souls are a function of reproductive biology and warm-bloodedness.

Maybe brain size? The mammalian brain has some features the reptilian brain lacks.

I don't know. Maybe it depends on the owner of the pet. After all, we have the free choice, and animals are affected by us, and it.

If we used all our brain before the split, it would make sense that after the change, men could no longer understand each other. Maybe the brain needed to gow a bit more, using only the bit we now do No wonder science is so limited. They not only fly blind to the state of the past, but with half their brain tied behind their back as well.

You can always hope! Frankly the thought of angels battling raging lions in heaven seems to have the makings of a fine graphic novel in it somewhere.

Animals will be friendly, lions laying down with the child, etc. The angel battles are long over by then.

 

[dad]

Frankly I'm just fascinated that in "God-Math"
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I understand why you might be. When God's will is represented with a number, things can't add up as they do in the temporary sin state. C is no longer C, as we know light and it's speed. As simple a concept as it may be, it still confounds the wise (they that think they are wise)

 

[thaumaturgy]

Very interesting comment here --- very.

I wonder how many "fine graphic novels" were written in Nero's time.

(Just so ya know, I'm not a fan of the graphic novel. I love the cartoonists art and I love literature but graphic novels never "caught" me. Even when I was working as a graphic artist back in college.)

 

[AV1611VET]

(Just so ya know, I'm not a fan of the graphic novel. I love the cartoonists art and I love literature but graphic novels never "caught" me. Even when I was working as a graphic artist back in college.)

I was always partial to comic books myself.

Specifically the JLA --- more specifically the Green Lantern.

In brightest day, in blackest night
No evil shall escape my sight.
Let those who worship evil's might
Beware my power --- Green Lantern's light!

 

[thaumaturgy]

I understand why you might be. When God's will is represented with a number, things can't add up as they do in the temporary sin state.

is that sin(state)? (<-- Dad, that's a math joke.)

Actually I just like how God-math fits right into "human ignorance" math and "human pride" math. Human Pride math is when someone who doesn't even marginally understand simple 7th grade algebra wants to sound like he does and won't allow that he might be just spouting gibberish. That way he can maintain his immense pride and even spew bile at science that he clearly can't understand.

But I'm sure that's just the appearance.

C is no longer C, as we know light and it's speed. As simple a concept as it may be, it still confounds the wise (they that think they are wise)

But why does algebra have to completely break down. "God Math" simply doesn't make any sense. It is unworkable.

Now, if you could explain simply how such "math" works such that

A*B/C = C*A then maybe we'd get somewhere.

Here's an example for you Dad, with real numbers in it!

5 x 10 / 2 = 50/2 = 25

"God Math" says:

5x10/2 = 2*5 = 10

So if God Math winds up with an answer that is about 2.5 times off from the actual value then I think we might have an insight into Young Earth Creationism.

(NOTE: I fully expect Dad to whine about using "real numbers" instead of magic God-numbers. Maybe this is a new area for AV: "embedded algebra" in which God "embeds" the right answer into the wrong formula!)

 

[AV1611VET]

(NOTE: I fully expect Dad to whine about using "real numbers" instead of magic God-numbers. Maybe this is a new area for AV: "embedded algebra" in which God "embeds" the right answer into the wrong formula!)

What you educated guys can't handle, Thaumaturgy, is what we call "catastrophism" --- it pwns "uniformitarianism" back to where it came from.

And your unwavering dedication to it sets up mental blocks that you guys can't get around, resulting in rookie errors, faux pas, playing Telephone, bad word choices, improper use of synonyms, etc.

Set your uniformitarianism aside for a moment and try and realize that with God, 1 + 1 + 1 = 1.

And that's just a mild example --- remember the feeding of the 5000?

Yes, even "perfect" math must bow to catastrophism, when God is crunching the numbers.