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I even pointed you to the original greek so you could see what they actually wrote.
they all wrote "already evening having become"
you are free to believe whatever you want.
I am not forcing my beliefs on anyone.
Sunday is the first day of the week
thats all covered in the op
Wow. I cant believe this never occurred to me before.first the way the hebrews measured time was as follows:night (the day begins with sunset):the way the romans measured time was as follows:day:Code:12th hour 6pm, first watch (sunset) 3rd hour 9pm, second watch 6th hour 12am, third watch 9th hour 3am, fourth watch, [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] crow (Mark 13:35)
Code:12th hour 6am (sunrise) 3rd hour 9am [COLOR=red]6th hour 12pm[/COLOR] 9th hour 3pm
day (the day begins with sunrise):before the chief priests in the morning of passover day (passover always occurs at the full moon):night:Code:12th hour 6am (sunrise) 3rd hour 9am [COLOR=red]6th hour 12pm[/COLOR] 9th hour 3pm
Code:12th hour 6pm, first watch (sunset) 3rd hour 9pm, second watch 6th hour 12am, third watch 9st hour 3am, fourth watch, [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] crow
Matthew 27 (KJV)before pilate around noon of passover day:1When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death:Mark 15 (KJV)
2And when they had bound him, they led him away, and delivered him to Pontius Pilate the governor.1And straightway in the morning the chief priests held a consultation with the elders and scribes and the whole council, and bound Jesus, and carried him away, and delivered him to Pilate.Luke 22:66 (KJV)66And as soon as it was day, the elders of the people and the chief priests and the scribes came together, and led him into their council, saying,John 18:28 (KJV)28Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover.John 19:13-14 (KJV)crucified at 3pm of passover day:13When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha.Thats noon.
14And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!Mark 15:25 (KJV)darkness from 9pm to midnight:25And it was the third hour, and they crucified him.this cant mean 9am because that would be before he went to pilate
so it must mean 3 hours after he saw pilate and that would be 3pm.Mark 15:33 (KJV)Some say Joseph put him in the tomb at sunset but what does the greek actually say:33And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour.Matthew 27:45-46 (KJV)45Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.Luke 23:44 (KJV)
46And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?44And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hourThe 6th hour that he was on the cross would be 9pm.
The 9th hour that he was on the cross would be 12midnight.
(Midnight is the hour the angel of death passed throughout Epypt)
lunar eclipse (lunar eclipses always occur during full moon) from sunset to midnight (jerusalem=lat N 31' 46" Long E 35' 14"):Apr 25 of the year 31 had a partial lunar eclipse lasting from 20:00 to 00:30. It was a Wed and its julian day #1732495 (sunrise-4:58am?, sunset-6:12?) (UT 2:57-16:12)penumbra begins 19:56 (all times are local, 2 hours East of UT)there was also a more impressive total eclipse on june 14 of 29 but that would be too late in the year for passover. (unless they had a very long winter, perhaps due to volcanic winter). And its on the wrong day. It was a tue and its julian day #1731815 (sunrise-4:28am?, sunset-6:41?) (UT 2:28-16:42)
Partial Eclipse Begins 21:11
Total Eclipse Begins -------
Mid. Eclipse 22:12
Total Eclipse Ends ------
Partial Eclipse Ends 23:14
Pen. Eclipse Ends 00:29penumbra begins 18:58Interactive Google Map of Partial Lunar Eclipse of AD 31 April 25
Partial Eclipse Begins 19:58
Total Eclipse Begins 21:01
Mid. Eclipse 22:12 21:47
Total Eclipse Ends 22:32
Partial Eclipse Ends 23:35
Pen. Eclipse Ends 00:35
Interactive Google Map of Total Lunar Eclipse of AD 29 June 14
Nasa website list of all lunar eclipses from AD 1 to AD 100
Julian day calculator
Julian Day Number Calculations
Worldwide Sunrise, Sunset And Twilight Time Calculator - Current
http://users.zoominternet.net/~matto/Java/Sunset%20and%20Sunrise.htm
Some say that the sabbath was about to begin (which would be at sunset) but what does the greek actually say:
Matthew 27:57-58 (KJV)57When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple:Mark 15:42-43 (KJV)
58He went to Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded the body to be delivered.42And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,but when I look at the Interlinear Bible for matthew 27 and for mark 15 it says "evening having already come". (Matthew 27:57 Mark 15:42)
43Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.
What it actually says is that evening had already come not that it was evening at that time.Luke 23:52-54 (KJV)3 days and nights in the heart of the earth:52This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.when i look up "beginning" in the Interlinear Bible for luke 23 it says 'to dawn'. (Luke 23:54)
53And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.
54And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.
in other words the sabbath day was about to dawn
this makes perfect sense because he was in the tomb for 3 days and 3 nights and he arose on sunday morning at dawn. 3 days after thur morning would be sunday morning.Matthew 12:40 (KJV)arose on sunday morning (first day of the week):40For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.Mark 16:2 (YLT)Putting all these together:2and early in the morning of the first (day) of the sevens (meaning "week"), they come unto the sepulchre, at the rising of the sun,
WednesdayThursdayCode:12 am midnight 3 am 6 am dawn, before the chief priests 9 am 12 pm noon, stands before Pilate 3 pm crucified (3 hours after seeing pilate) 6 pm sunset 9 pm darkness (lunar eclipse) starts (6 hours after crucifixion)
FridayCode:12 am midnight, darkness (lunar eclipse) ends, Jesus dies (9 hours after crucifixion) 3 am 6 am dawn, Jesus put in tomb (sabbath about to dawn) 9 am 12 pm noon 3 pm 6 pm sunset 9 pm
SaturdayCode:12 am midnight 3 am 6 am dawn 9 am 12 pm noon 3 pm 6 pm sunset 9 pm
SundayCode:12 am midnight 3 am 6 am dawn 9 am 12 pm noon 3 pm 6 pm sunset 9 pm
It belatedly occurs to me that some might think that I am making some kind of anti-christian statement here.Code:12 am midnight 3 am 6 am dawn, resurrection, tomb found empty 9 am 12 pm noon 3 pm 6 pm sunset 9 pm
It is true that the passover lamb was killed at evening and the angel of death killed the first born of the egyptians at midnight.
But there was also one innocent man who lost his son to the angel of death and was, like Christ, considered to be smitten of God.
That man was Job.
It wasnt till 40 days later when God appeared at sinai that he was vindicated.
15th year of tiberius:
Anyway he realize quick that if Jesus rose on a sunday, there's no possible way He died on a friday. Because that would be fri night, sat morn (one day), sat night, sun morn (two days) Not three at all. It'd have to be thursday.
If Jesus died on thursday it'd be sunday afternoon he'd of been raised correct? So if Jesus died on a wednesday he'd be raised on a saturday...? no?
Grampa is absolutely wrong.
Jesus was not crucified by 3 pm but by the 3rd hour (9 am)
Totally wrong.
Whoever does not believe in the resurrection of the dead has never been to an old CF thread.
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