Look at what this sheriff had to say...

[TheDag]

Here, read this and see if you and your sheriff still think there is a wide gap.
Reported Legal Abortions by Race of Woman Who Obtained Abortion by the State of Occurrence | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

if you had bothered reading what has previously been posted instead of jumping to conclusions you would see the obvious reason why these figures do not prove your case. Lets take the first state listed as an example. in the year 2000 white people made up 73% of the population while black people made up 26% of the population. Yet the percentage of patients who had abortions who were black is 58% compared to 40% white. With the population demographics that 58% is actually massive compared to the 40%. As I said it is rather simple maths to understand.

Now, go back and watch the video, and see what she is agreeing to. He said, that people like Eric Gardner, and what happened to him is no reason to protest. Which is funny since he spouted a phrase spoken by Malcolm X..."Chickens coming home to roost"

please give the post number where she said that. Of course I know you can't because what you have said here is nothing but a lie. Preachers wife never said any such thing. Just because you disagree with someone does not mean you need to make false claims about them. Selinflikted managed it easily.

 

[Euler]

No you have made up your own version of Preachers Wifes logic. You have not used her logic. You have also failed to address one of the points she made about the numbers. I guess it doesn't suit you. It is very simple maths. If one out of every ten residents is black but in that same area the percentage of people who have an abortion are black is the same as white or close even then it is actually a far greater percentage of blacks compared to the population demographic of the area. Of course that does not take into consideration age and other factors but it is simple enough math that anybody with basic maths skills should be able to comprehend.

Her logic is crap. Watch and learn.

She notes that black women have abortions. She also notes that black people protest black deaths by cops. She says this is hypocritical, because the people protesting killings by cops don't also protest black abortions.

However, this would only be an example of hypocrisy if those black protestors also were not in favor of abortion! And we, nor she, have no way of knowing if that's the case!

She wades in, assuming that everyone thinks like her - ie, abortion is bad - and so their failure to protest abortion makes them hypocrites. But, if they don't, in fact, oppose abortion, there is no hypocrisy on their part - simply a disagreement in values.

And we, nor she, have no way of knowing what their position on abortions is.

Now, she chooses to make this solely about one racial group. My reminder to her about white servicemen deaths and white abortions highlights this - her comments are racially motivated.

Your lesson is over.

 

[Euler]

By the way, you do know what a 'dag' is I trust?

 

[Sean Robson]

you made a mistake in your post. You used the scratching head pic instead of a sarcasm one.

I'm sorry but I'm never sarcastic, I intended to use the scratching head emoticon, I'm sincerely at a loss, you however, are sarcastic.

It really is very simple to understand why and does not require much education at all to understand why.

Since you are educated and can understand why, would you be kind enough to answer my question, instead of just responding with sarcasm.

So one has to ask why are people choosing to deliberately not see the reason?

One has to ask, why are you choosing to deliberately ignore my question.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

One has to ask, why are you choosing to deliberately ignore my question.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's probably because I already answered it.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Her logic is crap. Watch and learn. She notes that black women have abortions. She also notes that black people protest black deaths by cops. She says this is hypocritical, because the people protesting killings by cops don't also protest black abortions. However, this would only be an example of hypocrisy if those black protestors also were not in favor of abortion! And we, nor she, have no way of knowing if that's the case! She wades in, assuming that everyone thinks like her - ie, abortion is bad - and so their failure to protest abortion makes them hypocrites. But, if they don't, in fact, oppose abortion, there is no hypocrisy on their part - simply a disagreement in values. And we, nor she, have no way of knowing what their position on abortions is. Now, she chooses to make this solely about one racial group. My reminder to her about white servicemen deaths and white abortions highlights this - her comments are racially motivated. Your lesson is over.

#blacklivesmatter made this about one race.

Also, I have yet to meet anyone who thinks abortion is GOOD.

 

[Snark]

Again, what would happen if every black woman exercised her right to an abortion?

What would happen if everyone became an ordained minister? There would be nobody to work the fields and we'd all starve to death! Why do Christians want us all to go hungry?

I'm not sure hypothetical slippery slopes are shedding more light on your points.

On hypocrisy, it's only hypocrisy if the protestors are starting from the same position on abortion that you do. If, for example, they believe that they are aborting a potential life, no hypocrisy is implied.

To use a non-facetious example, what you're doing is like claiming that anyone who is against abortion has to be an absolute pacifist for their position to be respectable. So those who protest abortion clinics but not military recruitment offices are hypocrites. Are you willing to go down that hardline road on this?

 

[PreachersWife2004]

What would happen if everyone became an ordained minister? There would be nobody to work the fields and we'd all starve to death! Why do Christians want us all to go hungry?

I'm not sure hypothetical slippery slopes are shedding more light on your points.

On hypocrisy, it's only hypocrisy if the protestors are starting from the same position on abortion that you do. If, for example, they believe that they are aborting a potential life, no hypocrisy is implied.

To use a non-facetious example, what you're doing is like claiming that anyone who is against abortion has to be an absolute pacifist for their position to be respectable. So those who protest abortion clinics but not military recruitment offices are hypocrites. Are you willing to go down that hardline road on this?

Thanks for not getting the point.

 

[KCfromNC]

Ever noticed how, generally speaking, the first thing that happens before a mass slaughter of humanity is the denial that those to be killed are human...

Just because some use a claim to justify something bad doesn't mean that every use of that claim is an instance of that sort of justification. I'm sure if you look hard enough you can figure out the name of this sort of logical fallacy.

Has it occured to you that such might be a consequence as much as it is a cause of problems - meaning that it has arisen in reaction to the way that society has degenerated into the normalising of anti-social behaviour over the last 50 years?

Has it occurred to you that military contractors might have donated a bunch of money to politicians and the politicians needed to pay them back by having taxpayers spend lots of money with those businesses for equipment that no one needs.

See, we can both make up plausible explanations for these events. What does that prove, other than a desire to not actually talk about the content of my post.

 

[CaDan]

In this thread we learn how easily the right wing is manipulated to entrench anti-Blackness.

 

[KCfromNC]

Again, what would happen if every black woman exercised her right to an abortion?

What would happen if every police officer shot and killed all the black suspects they encountered? Would that be better or worse than your hypothetical?

More importantly, what do you think the merit is of asking about such nonsensical scenarios?

 

[PreachersWife2004]

In this thread we learn how easily the right wing is manipulated to entrench anti-Blackness.

Oh please. No one is anti-black here.

I'm just anti-hypocrital protestors. It's not my fault the majority of them happen to be black.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

What would happen if every police officer shot and killed all the black suspects they encountered? Would that be better or worse than your hypothetical?

More importantly, what do you think the merit is of asking about such nonsensical scenarios?

#blacklivesmatter is a hashtag that talks about the lives of black people mattering. Should all black women choose to exercise her right to an abortion, this hashtag wouldn't matter one bit, because apparently THOSE black lives that were aborted didn't matter.

Those who protest with this hashtag should be lining up at abortion clinics to help women who feel their only choice is abortion. Because if black lives matter, ALL BLACK LIVES should matter, even the heartbeats in the womb.

It was a simple message. I love how so many people tried to twist it and make it racist. And people wonder why race relations haven't really improved...

 

[KCfromNC]

Sorry but you have missed the point.

A comment about the [lack of] logic in the OP is more than on point for a comment discussing the logic laid out in the OP. If you don't want to talk about the failings of the argument in the OP, that's fine, but it is hardly off topic.

 

[Snark]

Thanks for not getting the point.

Oh, I get your point. I just think you're entirely unwilling to apply the principles you're attempting to demonstrate here consistently.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Oh, I get your point. I just think you're entirely unwilling to apply the principles you're attempting to demonstrate here consistently.

If white people were walking around being stupid and saying #whitelivesmatter because cops were killing white people, I'd say the same thing.

But no one cares when a cop kills a white guy, so...probably won't ever be an issue.

 

[KCfromNC]

#blacklivesmatter is a hashtag that talks about the lives of black people mattering.

Yes, in the context of balancing the risks of being a police officer with the safety and well being of the people they're supposed to be protecting and serving, and in the context of recent killings of various of those people by the police.

Should all black women choose to exercise her right to an abortion, this hashtag wouldn't matter one bit, because apparently THOSE black lives that were aborted didn't matter.

Same thing if police decide to kill every person they encounter, or if aliens invade and eliminate all human life. What if cows rise up and enslave all of humanity? Think about how dumb you'll feel worrying about abortion at that point. Not convincing? Same problem with your impossible scenario.

Meanwhile, back here in reality there are reasons why people might disagree that everything needs to play into the right-wing propaganda against abortion.

Those who protest with this hashtag should be lining up at abortion clinics to help women who feel their only choice is abortion.
Because if black lives matter, ALL BLACK LIVES should matter, even the heartbeats in the womb.

Thank goodness black people have you here to tell them what they should and shouldn't be focusing their political capital on.

How tough is it to understand that some people might value an actual person more than a potential one?

 

[KCfromNC]

In this thread we learn how easily the right wing is manipulated to entrench anti-Blackness.

I think it is more about how well single-issue voters have been conditioned to behave when that issue is dangled in front of them.

 

[Snark]

If white people were walking around being stupid and saying #whitelivesmatter because cops were killing white people, I'd say the same thing.

What if people were walking round claiming to be "pro life" while supporting the death penalty?

Which is my point. You seem to only want to apply what you're saying to this narrow case. Which is convenient.

But no one cares when a cop kills a white guy, so...probably won't ever be an issue.

Citation needed.

What specific case of a white person being killed are you thinking of here?

 

[PreachersWife2004]

What if people were walking round claiming to be "pro life" while supporting the death penalty?

I find that to be hypocritical as well.

And that's as a pro-lifer who doesn't support the death penalty, but supports the right of the state to make use of it.

Which is my point. You seem to only want to apply what you're saying to this narrow case. Which is convenient.

it's convenient that black lives only matter when they're being shot by cops.

Citation needed.

What specific case of a white person being killed are you thinking of here?

I wasn't thinking of a specific case. I was thinking in general. White men getting killed by police don't get near the press that a black man getting killed by police does. It might generate a headline or two, and then <nothing>. No protests, no #whitelivesmatter.