Look at what this sheriff had to say...

[Strathos]

Violent crime has generally been decreasing over the last 50 years

 

[Inkfingers]

Violent crime has generally been decreasing over the last 50 years

Can I interest you in some sea-front property in the Congo?

 

[bhsmte]

Can I interest you in some sea-front property in the Congo?

Can you refute his point with any evidence?

 

[stevevw]

seven2014

The difference I see is that she only has a problem with blacks having an abortion. Shouldn't she and the sheriff have a problem with all race of women having abortions?

You said it yourself, The OP doesn't think its OK to have an abortion. I infer that to mean all women who chose to have one.

And maybe it's just me, but I don't think you are reading her post, or at the very least, comprehending what she is saying.

Which do you think is worst:

A) Blacks protesting a veteran's award ceremony.
b) Westbhoro Baptist Church protesting at a veteran's funeral

Are blacks the only race that are tweeting stupid pictures of white people in a café?

If so, Go to Wal=Mart .com and look at what whites are doing.

Are blacks the only race that spit in white people's food?

If so, you must not have hear the stories about Taco Bell, Subway, etc.

Thats the thing I dont know the details of all the things that have happened. I assume it had something to do with the incidents of young black men/boys who were shot by police and the black community were protesting. That the OP was saying why do they complain about unfair deaths/treatments of their sons on the street by police when there are many of their babies dying in abortions. But I dont know the details of the other things that have happened. It sounds like some reactions are happening as a result of the shootings and people are getting nasty to each other.

WE only hear about the shootings of the young blacks. We have that happen hear as well with indiginous men. We have had riots when the locals felt that the police had unfairly treated one of theirs. There is a lot of hostility and bad blood around. It is a sensitive subject as some still feel that prejudiced is happening. There is a lot of anger and mistreatment. But it sounds like people are taking sides. Some are saying the blacks are complaining to much and wanting special treatment. The blacks still feel mistreated and it will only take a small incident to spark something. Maybe still some carry over from the riots years ago. But a lot of it is poverty and the minority groups always miss out.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

I thought the main point was killing a living being? You should care about both, no matter what the numbers are.

But you keep harping on blacks having abortions, but say nothing about the other races that are having them also. Why is that?

Because the hashtag is #blacklivesmatter.

Why exactly are blacks the subject of this thread?

See above.

African-Americans probably need abortion services more than white people, therefore the percentage of them using such services is probably higher than other groups' percentages.

People in high income brackets probably have more access to abortion services than people in low income brackets.

Which group do you think that African-Americans are in? I would say that African-Americans are mostly in the lower income brackets.

Therefore, African-Americans are among the people with the least access to abortion services. And, I think that it is safe to say, that is due to centuries of flagrantly racist policies. That is not what I would call a conspiracy to kill African-Americans through abortion.

Therefore, I conclude that the abortion statistics for African-Americans simply reflect the fact that they have a greater need for abortion services. Someone who truly believes that black lives matter and truly believes that abortion ends a life ought to be fighting for change that results in African-Americans not needing abortion services more than any other group.

YES. ^^

 

[seven2014]

Why exactly are blacks the subject of this thread?

Thank you....

I would think looking at the subject which is abortion, the women that have them would be the subject.

This just goes to show where some folks head is at

 

[seven2014]

That's a little disingenuous, isn't it.

The OP is clearly pointing out that people are getting worked up over a handful of black being shot whilst (we assume) saying nothing about the thousands of blacks being aborted.

No, it's not. If she feels this way about abortion, where is her contempt for all women that have them? But her posts are black this, and black that.

Explain to me, what does this rant of hers about the actions of blacks have to do with the subject?

At any rate, these protestors are basically turning themselves into jokes. Protesting a veteran's award ceremony, tweeting stupid pictures of white people in a cafe, spitting in white people's food...real mature there! Hopefully soon they will just fade back into the background until they find something else to get all revved up about.

I asked you before, are these the actions of only black people, or are all races guilty of these actions?

Also I posted a link that shows more white women are having abortions vs blacks. Where is her condemnation about them?

 

[selfinflikted]

Seven, you are missing the point. The OP is talking about blacks BECAUSE the issue is "#blacklivesmatter". If it were "#whitelivesmatter" she'd be coming down on white people having abortions.

Really, this is elementary. I think some people here are trying to make this a racist thread, when I don't believe it is.

 

[seven2014]

seven2014
Thats the thing I dont know the details of all the things that have happened. I assume it had something to do with the incidents of young black men/boys who were shot by police and the black community were protesting. That the OP was saying why do they complain about unfair deaths/treatments of their sons on the street by police when there are many of their babies dying in abortions. But I dont know the details of the other things that have happened. It sounds like some reactions are happening as a result of the shootings and people are getting nasty to each other.

Maybe you should read her subsequent posts, you may find yourself in a place you are no comfortable, bigotry, stereotyping, and just plain non-sense.

WE only hear about the shootings of the young blacks. We have that happen hear as well with indiginous men. We have had riots when the locals felt that the police had unfairly treated one of theirs. There is a lot of hostility and bad blood around. It is a sensitive subject as some still feel that prejudiced is happening. There is a lot of anger and mistreatment. But it sounds like people are taking sides. Some are saying the blacks are complaining to much and wanting special treatment. The blacks still feel mistreated and it will only take a small incident to spark something. Maybe still some carry over from the riots years ago. But a lot of it is poverty and the minority groups always miss out.

All I can say is when it comes to race, America is more unique when compared to other countries IMO. Race is complex, and the issues you see now stems from bad science that said that the black evolved from a lower class of species.

 

[Belk]

That's a little disingenuous, isn't it.

The OP is clearly pointing out that people are getting worked up over a handful of black being shot whilst (we assume) saying nothing about the thousands of blacks being aborted.

A handful would be five. There are much more then five blacks shot by police every year.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Ever noticed how, generally speaking, the first thing that happens before a mass slaughter of humanity is the denial that those to be killed are human...

No one is saying that a fetus isn't human. They are not persons with rights that would supersede the rights of the mother. There's a difference there.

 

[seven2014]

Seven, you are missing the point. The OP is talking about blacks BECAUSE the issue is "#blacklivesmatter". If it were "#whitelivesmatter" she'd be coming down on white people having abortions.

Really, this is elementary.

If it's so elementary, you would see that I'm talking about her other posts, I can point you to several of them where I've said this.

Are you seriously telling me that this is addressing the OP?

At any rate, these protestors are basically turning themselves into jokes. Protesting a veteran's award ceremony, tweeting stupid pictures of white people in a cafe, spitting in white people's food...real mature there! Hopefully soon they will just fade back into the background until they find something else to get all revved up about.

And seriously, look at the sheriff's comment, how can anybody equate one with the other.

To simplify my point, lets do this exercise, lets flip it.

Look what this white doctor says about white women and drinking.

Women who drink more than light to moderate amounts of alcohol (more than about 7 drinks a week) are at increased risk of car accidents and other traumatic injuries, cancer, hypertension, stroke, and suicide. In addition, drinking at an elevated rate increases the likelihood that a woman will go on to abuse or become dependent on alcohol.


According to a 2009 survey, approximately 47% of women ages 12 and over in the United States reported being current drinkers, defined as having had a drink in the past 30 days.

Trends suggest that white, employed women are drinking greater amounts of alcohol and with greater frequency.

Women & Alcohol: The Hidden Risks of Drinking

So since I don't see whites protesting the alcohol industry, they must don't care about the lives of whites.

Imbecilic, isn't it?

I thought so...

 

[selfinflikted]

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[selfinflikted]

Again, she's not coming down on white people (or any other ethnicity) BECAUSE the subject is a hashtag that specifically states Black. Lives. Matter.

Why is this so hard to see? This whole conversation is framed within that context.

 

[seven2014]

Again, she's not coming down on white people (or any other ethnicity) BECAUSE the subject is a hashtag that specifically states Black. Lives. Matter.

Why is this so hard to see? This whole conversation is framed within that context.

Here is one of her post in it's entirety.

Yes, I agree with him.

But I wasn't the originator of the thought, nor am I the only person that believes he speaks the truth.

At any rate, these protestors are basically turning themselves into jokes. Protesting a veteran's award ceremony, tweeting stupid pictures of white people in a cafe, spitting in white people's food...real mature there! Hopefully soon they will just fade back into the background until they find something else to get all revved up about.

Now, go back and watch the video, and see what she is agreeing to. He said, that people like Eric Gardner, and what happened to him is no reason to protest. Which is funny since he spouted a phrase spoken by Malcolm X..."Chickens coming home to roost"

 

[chapmic]

Again, she's not coming down on white people (or any other ethnicity) BECAUSE the subject is a hashtag that specifically states Black. Lives. Matter.

Why is this so hard to see? This whole conversation is framed within that context.

You really don't see how this is racist? OP said this on the 1st page

The main point is that protesting police saying "black lives matter" while basically ignoring the abortion epidemic is quite hypocritical. IF black lives matter to these people, they would also have a huge presence at the clinics where unborn black people are killed daily. OR...even better, they would be better at assisting their fellow black brothers and sisters when they find themselves in a situation where abortion is an option.

 

[seven2014]

Again, she's not coming down on white people (or any other ethnicity) BECAUSE the subject is a hashtag that specifically states Black. Lives. Matter.

Why is this so hard to see? This whole conversation is framed within that context.

Why are you dodging my questions? I asked you what did her rant have to do with the thread subject? You just skipped right over that.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

You really don't see how this is racist? OP said this on the 1st page

The main point is that protesting police saying "black lives matter" while basically ignoring the abortion epidemic is quite hypocritical. IF black lives matter to these people, they would also have a huge presence at the clinics where unborn black people are killed daily. OR...even better, they would be better at assisting their fellow black brothers and sisters when they find themselves in a situation where abortion is an option.

You keep trying there, chapmic. I know it's difficult trying to point out racism where there is none.

The protestors, however, easily made this racist, by only pointing out that #blacklivesmatter and then verbally assaulting and attacking white people.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Why are you dodging my questions? I asked you what did her rant have to do with the thread subject? You just skipped right over that.

You mean my rant about the protestors? The protestors that prompted the thread in the first place?

Gosh, I couldn't possibly think why the two might be connected.

 

[selfinflikted]

You really don't see how this is racist? OP said this on the 1st page

The main point is that protesting police saying "black lives matter" while basically ignoring the abortion epidemic is quite hypocritical. IF black lives matter to these people, they would also have a huge presence at the clinics where unborn black people are killed daily. OR...even better, they would be better at assisting their fellow black brothers and sisters when they find themselves in a situation where abortion is an option.

No, I do not see anything racist in that post at all.

You've highlighted "these" as if that is some kind of derogatory remark.