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Such a Law was made for man and not for God. So yes; I am saying that such a law could not be obeyed by Jesus because He was God incarnate Himself. The fulness of the Godhead dwelled within Him bodily. So no. Jesus could not have worshiped the Lord our God because He is God. Jesus also received worship from men. Yet, the Scriptures say we are to worship the Lord our God only. In other words, I cannot receive worship from men. Yet, Jesus received worship. Furthermore, Jesus died for the sins of the entire world. I can't do something like that. Only God could do something that. Jesus also forgave sins. Only the Son of Man (God) alone has the power to forgive sins."Jesus answered him, “It is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God and serve Him only.’” Luke 4:8
Are you saying that Jesus did not keep all of the commandments and fulfill the law of God completely?
If that's the case, we above all men are much to be pitied.
Yes, I am saying that such a law could not be obeyed by Jesus because He was God incarnate Himself. The fulness of the Godhead dwelled within Him bodily. So no. Jesus could not have worshiped the Lord our God because He is God. Jesus also received worship from men. Yet, the Scriptures say we are to worship the Lord our God only. In other words, I cannot receive worship from men. Yet, Jesus received worship. Furthermore, Jesus died for the sins of the entire world. I can't do something like that. Only God could do something that. Jesus also forgave sins. Only the Son of Man (God) alone has the power to forgive sins."Jesus answered him, “It is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God and serve Him only.’” Luke 4:8
Are you saying that Jesus did not keep all of the commandments and fulfill the law of God completely?
If that's the case, we above all men are much to be pitied.
Jesus was a man. For Him to be perfect, He would have to keep the whole law.Such a Law was made for man and not for God. So yes; I am saying that such a law could not be obeyed by Jesus because He was God incarnate Himself. The fulness of the Godhead dwelled within Him bodily. So no. Jesus could not have worshiped the Lord our God because He is God. Jesus also received worship from men. Yet, the Scriptures say we are to worship the Lord our God only. In other words, I cannot receive worship from men. Yet, Jesus received worship. Furthermore, Jesus died for the sins of the entire world. I can't do something like that. Only God could do something that. Jesus also forgave sins. Only the Son of Man (God) alone has the power to forgive sins.
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Homonyms do exist in the Bible. Meaning, these are words that can look the same but can have different meanings.You are ignoring the language. The world used in James for drag is the same exact word used for draw in John. Just because it doesn't fit yiyreyou're narrative doesn't mean the definition is changed.
Twice said.Yes, I am saying that such a law could not be obeyed by Jesus ..................... Jesus could not have worshiped the Lord our God because He is God. ....
Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath or the Law. Jesus was changing the Old Law in the New Testament. For He said, you have heard it said, an eye for an eye. But Jesus said, but I tell you that if you are smitten on the cheek, turn so as to let them strike the other.Jesus was a man. For Him to be perfect, He would have to keep the whole law.
And you can go on believing Jesus can worship God all you like. But that is not what happened. Jesus is God. God cannot worship God. That doesn't make any sense.Twice said.
Twice really, really dead wrong.
It seems that you and many others here tend to reject a lot of things simply because you can't understand them completely.And you can go on believing Jesus can worship God all you like. But that is not what happened. Jesus is God. God cannot worship God. That doesn't make any sense. ....
You seem to be woefully unaware of the attitude of Calvinist doctrine concerning self worth.Another problem God placed upon my heart this morning as to why Calvinism is wrong is that it makes you think you are more important than you really are. If you believe you are God's chosen who was elected since the foundation of the world, you are going to think you are more special than other people. But the Scriptures say, God gives grace to the humble, though. ....
Homonyms do exist in the Bible. Meaning, these are words that can look the same but can have different meanings.
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The relationship of the church and secular governments in the 16th century was a rather complex one as it was in the many centuries before the 16th.No doubt you have a rosey colored version of history of what you think happened. Whether your version of events in history actually played out of not, there are other documents showing that Calvin was directly involved in his execution. This is not a Christian trait. To have another put to death is evil and wrong for a New Testament saint. That is not an imperfection. It is a showing of their true colors of whether they are of God or not. For we are to pray and to do good even upon our enemies. But believe what you will and associate with a man who has a very shady past. ...
Jesus was frequently explaining the law and correcting misconceptions about it. But nowhere did He say that everyone should worship the Father but Him.Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath or the Law. Jesus was changing the Old Law in the New Testament. For He said, you have heard it said, an eye for an eye. But Jesus said, but I tell you that if you are smitten on the cheek, turn so as to let them strike the other.
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Brother Nobdysfool,
If my interpretation was in error, please offer a correction based on established rules of interpretation. Please explain how God cannot be God.
In Christ!
Thanks. I will.And you can go on believing Jesus can worship God all you like. ....
There is no use defending what you think might have happened. We don't have a time machine. Whether it was true or not, there is documentation of Calvin setting out to convict a man so as to give him the death penalty. If it is true, then you are following a person who could potentially not be of God. For Christians are not supposed to take lives.The relationship of the church and secular governments in the 16th century was a rather complex one as it was in the many centuries before the 16th.
That was true for Protestant churches in and after the Reformation as well as the Roman Catholic church.
I'm no defender of Catholicism that's for sure. But the fact is that the vast number of imprisonments, executions and tortures were carried out by the secular governments, even though with the obvious approval of the RCC.
The same was true under Luther's relationship with the world government. The same was true in 16th century Switzerland.
Michael Servetus was considered and branded a heretic by both Protestants churches of various stripes and the Roman Catholic church alike. The truth is that he stayed in Geneva and faced the possibility of death by the secular government for his beliefs rather than leave Geneva and face almost certain death elsewhere in Europe. His published heresies would have preceded him where ever he would go in Europe. He rolled the dice and lost it seems by staying in Geneva to await his fate.
The plain fact is that Calvin did not stand firmly against the relationship of church and state in Geneva as he should have. No doubt that his sorrow for not having done so plagued him for the rest of his short life.
But, then again there was only so much he could do not being a citizen of Geneva at the time. He was a product of the times as were most of the reformers and even modern theologians to some degree.
But we do this for the creator of the Universe. The Son of God (who gave Himself as a sacrifice for us) is God and the Creator of the Universe.Thanks. I will.
"Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship."
If the offering by the Lord of His body to God was not worship in it's purest sense - I don't know what qualifies as worship in your book.
Nowhere does the Bible say Jesus worshipped the Father.Jesus was frequently explaining the law and correcting misconceptions about it. But nowhere did He say that everyone should worship the Father but Him.
No. Jesus changed the Law.Jesus was frequently explaining the law and correcting misconceptions about it. But nowhere did He say that everyone should worship the Father but Him.
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