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Living on your own before marrying?

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However, one thing- boyfriend is the one who initiated all the kids/marrying/settling down talking- and the one who brings it up most, as well. I'm sure, though, that the next time around marrying, he wants to be SURE.

And how many of us have ex-boyfriends who talked about all of that as well? It all makes for a great conversation, but when you add in real life and the reality of it all, talk means really not that much.
 
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And how many of us have ex-boyfriends who talked about all of that as well? It all makes for a great conversation, but when you add in real life and the reality of it all, talk means really not that much.

True! I believe some guys don't realize how much it can get a woman's hopes up. Maybe we should tell them to just keep their mouths shut about the "dreamy" parts unless they're SOON going to make a move in that direction? Discussion, sure, but dreaming- talk about it when you're ready to begin making it reality. I've actually read about this type of advice directed at men before, because of how it stirs a woman's hopes and emotions up unnecessarily/prematurely.
 
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True! I believe some guys don't realize how much it can get a woman's hopes up. Maybe we should tell them to just keep their mouths shut about the "dreamy" parts unless they're SOON going to make a move in that direction? Discussion, sure, but dreaming- talk about it when you're ready to begin making it reality. I've actually read about this type of advice directed at men before, because of how it stirs a woman's hopes and emotions up unnecessarily/prematurely.

I had to propose to my wife, she had already planned our wedding lol, and named our first child, before we had even got engaged or had sex.:)
 
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True! I believe some guys don't realize how much it can get a woman's hopes up. Maybe we should tell them to just keep their mouths shut about the "dreamy" parts unless they're SOON going to make a move in that direction? Discussion, sure, but dreaming- talk about it when you're ready to begin making it reality. I've actually read about this type of advice directed at men before, because of how it stirs a woman's hopes and emotions up unnecessarily/prematurely.

Well, you want them to talk about it, but take it with a grain of salt. Saying and doing are just two different things. And it's good you can talk about it, but I wouldn't start collecting paint chips and sizing rings based off of idle conversation about vague future desires.
 
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I had to propose to my wife, she had already planned our wedding lol, and named our first child, before we had even got engaged or had sex.:)

Many women have a rough idea of what they want for a wedding and the number/names of kids from a pretty young age. Of course, I'm sure you know that. But, then, I wanted to be married by 24 at the latest. That sure didn't happen!

Cute how you said that, though. How long did you guys date before you proposed?
 
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Well, you want them to talk about it, but take it with a grain of salt. Saying and doing are just two different things. And it's good you can talk about it, but I wouldn't start collecting paint chips and sizing rings based off of idle conversation about vague future desires.


I totally agree. Hindsight can truly be 20/20! I had to take something he said with a grain of salt last night, actually. I was telling him about a lady I know who teaches infant and toddler swimming classes, which I find fascinating. Tiny kids learn how to keep themselves afloat on their backs and scream for help IF they ever fall into water. He thought it sounded a little odd at first and argued about the fact that somebody should always be watching the child, yadda-yadda-yadda...anyway, he eventually said, "I guess I see the point that it would be a positive thing. If you want our babies to learn how to swim, that will be just fine. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt." I just replied, "Okay."
 
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It also helps on how you words thing if you do talk about the future. Instead of saying "We will have alot of romantic dinners and walks on the beach I promise!". Say instead "Hopefully we will be able to do romantics things like waking on the beach or romantic dinners!".

This way your not making promises that you cannot keep/have no control over. Even with our wedding we both agreed we aren't going to dream about we want. We are just going to have what God gives us. Which currently is something very small. It also helps that we accept reality, there will be fights, times of sadness, bad health...etc. THats the biggest problem I see is couple who want to get married are full of joy and thinking marriage is the happiest thing on earth like they see in the movies.

When you accept marriage will not be perfect, then you will do better because your not expecting some movie marriage which is perfect.
 
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I disagree about the time line being too rushed. I met my wife August of '08. . . got engaged March of '09 and married April of '10.

I was 27 when I got married.

After being with him a year there should be plans to be engaged within a year. I don't care if he wants to take another year of dating before he gets engaged (but that's about it.) But he should have it in mind what he's going to do and when, if everything goes well he's going to ask.

I also say I agree with xfreakazoidx, don't approach marriage with too many fantasies of what marriage will be. You need to anticipate that marriage may be difficult. Especially at first when both people are sort of set in certain ways of doing things.
 
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I disagree about the time line being too rushed. I met my wife August of '08. . . got engaged March of '09 and married April of '10.
I met my fiance on Nov 6th (2011), proposed Dec 6th (2011) and we are getting married Feb 10th 2013. Most people are freaked out about that. Even more so that we haven't met in person yet. When you have honesty and communication then there won't be anything hidden when you do meet.

Someone told me "What if she sings out loud or taps her foot alot?". I was like "If thats what it takes for you to leave a person then you misunderstand what love is!". lol. We've discussed all of our habits. How much we watch tv, what we read, what a general day is like for us.
 
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I think it all depends. In the end, I'd say that both of those timelines would be too fast for me. And I think most would say it's not unreasonable to go a year without a ring.

I do not think it is unreasonable either. Everyone moves at their own pace. Actually, I think it's quite wise to allow a full year of dating at least before proposing...that way you go through every season and holiday with that person. Ultimately, I am not hoping for a Christmas engagement. We will have JUST passed the one-year mark (Dec. 4). I believe we need a little more time to grow, especially with me telling him last Thursday that I wanted us to quit having sex. When we saw each other Saturday night, things got a little heated, but it didn't go too far. Yesterday, we passed with flying colors. There was not a thing that went on that was inappropriate, which I praise God for. He made it a point to mention how much he enjoyed spending time with me yesterday, too.

I am going to go ahead and continue to save money with plans to move out within 6-7 months. Where and exactly when I'll move---only God knows that, and I'm leaving it up to Him!
 
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I do not think it is unreasonable either. Everyone moves at their own pace. Actually, I think it's quite wise to allow a full year of dating at least before proposing...that way you go through every season and holiday with that person. Ultimately, I am not hoping for a Christmas engagement. We will have JUST passed the one-year mark (Dec. 4). I believe we need a little more time to grow, especially with me telling him last Thursday that I wanted us to quit having sex. When we saw each other Saturday night, things got a little heated, but it didn't go too far. Yesterday, we passed with flying colors. There was not a thing that went on that was inappropriate, which I praise God for. He made it a point to mention how much he enjoyed spending time with me yesterday, too.

I am going to go ahead and continue to save money with plans to move out within 6-7 months. Where and exactly when I'll move---only God knows that, and I'm leaving it up to Him!

But you've already been dating a year or close to it.
 
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I can never understand why so many Christians have this preconceived timeline of how long people should date and be engaged for.

My husband and I met in 2004. We started dating in March 2007. We got engaged in April 2010, and married in December 2010. We got married when we were ready, not when anyone else thought we should (and a lot of people spent a lot of time trying to convince us that there was something wrong with us because we'd been dating for so long).

You and your boyfriend know your relationship better then anyone else does (especially anyone on an internet forum that only one of you participates on). I have seen so many men, in particular, pressured into marrying before they want to, and it never ends well.
 
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Yes, a year basically...can you please explain what exactly you're getting at?

So I don't think it's rushing it to find out or need to know if you can be expecting to be engaged within the next year or so.

And it really in my opinion would not be rushing things to be engaged now.

The only thing is that the both of you need to be sure that this is the person you want to spend the rest of your life with.
 
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So I don't think it's rushing it to find out or need to know if you can be expecting to be engaged within the next year or so.

And it really in my opinion would not be rushing things to be engaged now.

The only thing is that the both of you need to be sure that this is the person you want to spend the rest of your life with.


Okay, thank you for clarifying that!

I think that a Valentine's Day engagement would be nice and quite appropriate time-wise ;) We shall see what the future holds!
 
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I can never understand why so many Christians have this preconceived timeline of how long people should date and be engaged for.

My husband and I met in 2004. We started dating in March 2007. We got engaged in April 2010, and married in December 2010. We got married when we were ready, not when anyone else thought we should (and a lot of people spent a lot of time trying to convince us that there was something wrong with us because we'd been dating for so long).

You and your boyfriend know your relationship better then anyone else does (especially anyone on an internet forum that only one of you participates on). I have seen so many men, in particular, pressured into marrying before they want to, and it never ends well.

With all due respect you are also 23 years old and already married. You started dating your husband when you where around 18 years old and married him at 21. At that age I would agree you can and should take a little bit of time with it.

When you get older, it's entirely different. First of all you should be wiser so you should have a pretty good idea of what you should be looking for. On top of that you have the end of good reproductive age for the woman which is always a pressing concern. I know that it varies, but it's generally better to reproduce at a younger age. If we call the ending age 35, you have a dozen years to just decide to start trying to and conceive. She has 8 years to get engaged, get married, start trying and conceive. Given an engagement can often be a year of planning and then it's usually best to give marriage a year before trying. . . Then you don't know how long conception can sometimes take. . .

Don't get me wrong, she still has time. But she doesn't have a ton of time to waste either.

While that can certainly still be done, a lot more has to happen in a shorter period of time. So she doesn't have time to hang around while he takes his time about it.

So when you are 27, or in the case of her boyfriend 31 years old, there should be some self pressure to get married sooner once you feel that you are with a person you want to spend the rest of your life with.

I got married when I was 27. And I don't want to be disrespectful to somethingbeautiful or anything but she really just does not have the luxury of waiting around for her boyfriend to decide if he wants to get married or not.

You started dating your husband at 18. . . and that's great for you. But you have to understand that gave you the luxury of time that she just doesn't have nearly as much of.

If you are 18 to early 20's. . . waiting 3+ years is probably a good idea. . . people change in those ages as they are first becomming adults and they also need to get through college and find their way in the work world.

But at age 27, there is no reason you should have to wait for 3 years. If he can't figure it out in 2 years at most there is something wrong with him.

If she and her boyfriend where young 18 to 22 and she was saying. . . It's been a year, I'm not engaged, and I don't know if he's going to ask or not, my response would be ENTIRELY different. I'd tell her to chill out and give it a bit of time. (You would have to go back a ways but you can probably find threads where people at that age are worried about being engaged and I'm telling them to chill)

But at his age. . . if he doesn't have this figured out and ready to marry after 2 years of dating, she's just wasting her time to hang around longer. . . Because it could take him the next 15 years if ever.
 
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Okay, thank you for clarifying that!

I think that a Valentine's Day engagement would be nice and quite appropriate time-wise ;) We shall see what the future holds!

Well you should find out his plans first. I wouldn't get too attached to a holiday engagement. To me those are a little cliche anyways.

It should come within the next year. If you don't have a ring by this time next year, you should probably move on no matter what.

But you need to talk this over with him first. He needs to know that if he has some sort of long term 5 year plan or something like that. It doesn't fit with your plans.
 
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With all due respect...

(I didn't think it was necessary to quote the whole thing, haha)

I completely agree with you. My problem is that a lot of Christians don't seem to have the understanding that age and life experience have a vital role to play. Several people told me that if my husband hadn't proposed by a year (or two years), he was never going to. I'm really glad you clarified that age is a factor here, because my concern was that people will see this and think it applies to their situation, though it may be completely different :)
 
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