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[SANTOSO]

Hey you welcome to the discussion.

The subject is of these scriptures : Jesus said, 'With God all things are possible' (Matthew 19:26). ... It is the power of God that makes what seems impossible possible. Nothing is impossible with God(Luke 1:37).

if this is a literal statement, why doesn’t God heal my paraplegic friend?

Why doesn’t God stop the world from its wickedness if he is capable of making all things possible?

Why wouldn’t he just let us be able to have our past animals to raise from the dead that we loved so dearly?

What does the Holy Spirit tell you about the scripture can we try to prayerfully understand what is being iterated ?

Please help, thank you for your comments, and hope everyone is ready for thanksgiving ! Almost time.

Let assume that you have said that you have USD 500000, you can buy ANYTHING POSSIBLE with that money can buy for that amount.
Can you send me the money to help a paraplegic friend of mine ?
Can you send me the money for my dog ?
If it is possible that you have said, why you don’t send ?
Am I not asking you literally enough for that ?
Now, it is possible and in your power, why you won’t send me the help I need ?

Though all things are possible with God, God use His power according to His discretion and will.

Though the money you have is possible for you to spend for anything with that amount, it is purely your discretion and will on how you want to spend it !

If you want to receive God’s promises,
this is what we have heard:

For all the promises of God find their Yes in Christ. That is why it is through him that we utter our Amen to God for His glory. -2 Corinthians 1:20

The question is :
Are you in Christ? or Are you in union with Christ? Do you know what the Holy Scripture has told about in union with Christ?

This is what we have heard:
The UNFOLDING of YOUR WORDS GIVES LIGHT; it IMPARTS UNDERSTANDING to the simple.- Psalms 119:130

Come humbly before the Holy Spirit, seek His mercy and ask Him to unfold Christ’s words and the Father’s words that you may understand and be given light about His words.

You are asking :
Why doesn’t God stop the world from its wickedness if he is capable of making all things possible?

This is what we have heard:
Hear the word of the LORD, you rulers of Sodom!
Give ear to the teaching of our God, you people of Gomorrah! -Isaiah 1:10

Even, the Lord have spoken to people of today’s who are like the people of Sodom and Gomorrah ! What do God says ? HEAR !

If today’s people like the people of Sodom and Gommorah hear what is spoken Isaiah 1:1-27 ;

They should understand what the Lord Jesus Christ have spoken :

In sacrifice and offering you have not delighted, but You have given me an open ear.
Burnt offering and sin offering You have not required. -Psalms 40:6

I delight to do Your will, O my God; Your law is within my heart." -Psalms 40:8

Are not we called to be comformed to the image of His Son ? How ?!

By hearing what Christ has said !
Likewise, those who hear would say :
I delight to do Your will, O my God;
Your law of Spirit of life is within my heart.

 

[Cormack]

It’s actually very interesting that some branches of the Christian faith don’t have a robust, thorough answer to the problem of evil and suffering. Instead it’s cast as a mystery. Honestly I’ve never considered that some Christians wouldn’t have an answer until this topic.

 

[Dave L]

It’s actually very interesting that some branches of the Christian faith don’t have a robust, thorough answer to the problem of evil and suffering. Instead it’s cast as a mystery. Honestly I’ve never considered that some Christians wouldn’t have an answer until this topic.

This is not true. Some have a very detailed view of the problem of evil. This is why free will excuses exist because most are afraid to admit God causes evil.

 

[Cormack]

Some have a very detailed view of the problem of evil.

Very detailed I’m sure, and afterwards they cast our predicament in mystery. I’m simply drawing from the topic, Dave. Without highlighting anyone in particular, Christians in the topic have punted towards mystery when faced with the problem of evil and suffering.

If you however know some people who provide fantastic answers to the problem of evil and suffering, you’re welcome to quote those people for everyone’s edification right here in the chat.

btw are you a compatibilist and do you agree with this quote from John Piper?

Compatibilism is a form of determinism and it should be noted that this position is no less deterministic than hard determinism. It simply means that God's predetermination and meticulous providence is "compatible" with voluntary choice. Our choices are not coerced ...i.e. we do not choose against what we want or desire, yet we never make choices contrary to God's sovereign decree.​

 

[RickReads]

Very detailed I’m sure, and afterwards they cast our predicament in mystery. I’m simply drawing from the topic, Dave. Without highlighting anyone in particular, Christians in the topic have punted towards mystery when faced with the problem of evil and suffering.

If you however know some people who provide fantastic answers to the problem of evil and suffering, you’re welcome to quote those people for everyone’s edification right here in the chat.

btw are you a compatibilist and do you agree with this quote from John Piper?

Compatibilism is a form of determinism and it should be noted that this position is no less deterministic than hard determinism. It simply means that God's predetermination and meticulous providence is "compatible" with voluntary choice. Our choices are not coerced ...i.e. we do not choose against what we want or desire, yet we never make choices contrary to God's sovereign decree.​

I almost agree with it.

 

[Cormack]

I almost agree with it.

If we fully agreed, we wouldn’t have a working theodicy either.

Theodicy:

the vindication of divine providence in view of the existence of evil.
​

Question: Can we vindicate Gods goodness and works of providence in the world in light of evil and suffering in the world?

Page four of the topic explained my theodicy, it’s the freewill theodicy. God’s divine providence is vindicated in light of libertarianism and the reality of counterfactual statements.

Vindicating (1) divine providence is easy, however, vindicating the idea of (2) meticulous providence (AKA divine determinism,) not so simple.

Come on you beautiful theistic fatalists, let’s hear some theodicy.

To the chat: Do you have a fully satisfying theodicy? If not, why not?

 

[RickReads]

If we fully agreed, we wouldn’t have a working theodicy either.

Theodicy:

the vindication of divine providence in view of the existence of evil.
​

Question: Can we vindicate Gods goodness and works of providence in the world in light of evil and suffering in the world?

Page four of the topic explained my theodicy, it’s the freewill theodicy. God’s divine providence is vindicated in light of libertarianism and the reality of counterfactual statements.

Vindicating (1) divine providence is easy, however, vindicating the idea of (2) meticulous providence (AKA divine determinism,) not so simple.

Come on you beautiful theistic fatalists, let’s hear some theodicy.

To the chat: Do you have a fully satisfying theodicy? If not, why not?

I have a theory but I don`t want to derail the thread. I`ve had about enough of people getting mad because I didn`t talk about what they wanted me to.

 

[Cormack]

I have a theory but I don`t want to derail the thread. I`ve had about enough of people getting mad because I didn`t talk about what they wanted me to.

It’s to be expected, especially around election times. That tension runs into everything else. And a happy turkey day to you, sir. To you and everyone reading. Gobble gobble

 

[RickReads]

It’s to be expected, especially around election times. That tension runs into everything else. And a happy turkey day to you, sir. To you and everyone reading. Gobble gobble

Happy Thanksgiving.

 

[fwGod]

Hey you welcome to the discussion.

The subject is of these scriptures : Jesus said, 'With God all things are possible' (Matthew 19:26). ... It is the power of God that makes what seems impossible possible. Nothing is impossible with God(Luke 1:37).

if this is a literal statement, why doesn’t God heal my paraplegic friend?

It's already been established that all things are possible with God, so God is not holding back. Jesus also said All things are possible to those who believe. Believe is a constant. There was the woman who had the issue of blood who heard of Jesus so she kept saying "If I but touch his garment I shall be made whole." She kept saying it. Then she went to where Jesus was and touched his garment. She was healed, and Jesus confirmed it. Then Jesus told her that it was her faith that made her be healed.

Why doesn’t God stop the world from its wickedness if he is capable of making all things possible?

There are promises that are time released. Getting rid of evil will happen but it's not yet the time. There's still the events of the Revelation yet to happen. The Second Coming. Then The Millennium of Christ. Then The Great White Throne Judgement when wickedness is judged.

Why wouldn’t he just let us be able to have our past animals to raise from the dead that we loved so dearly?

If it happened you'd be scared out of your wits.

What does the Holy Spirit tell you about the scripture can we try to prayerfully understand what is being iterated?

The scripture says that "The unfolding of His Word gives light and understanding to the simple." All any believer has to do is believe that and "Not lean to your own understanding but trust in the Lord with all your heart. Acknowledge Him in all your ways and He'll make straight and smooth your path."

 

[Dave L]

Very detailed I’m sure, and afterwards they cast our predicament in mystery. I’m simply drawing from the topic, Dave. Without highlighting anyone in particular, Christians in the topic have punted towards mystery when faced with the problem of evil and suffering.

If you however know some people who provide fantastic answers to the problem of evil and suffering, you’re welcome to quote those people for everyone’s edification right here in the chat.

btw are you a compatibilist and do you agree with this quote from John Piper?

Compatibilism is a form of determinism and it should be noted that this position is no less deterministic than hard determinism. It simply means that God's predetermination and meticulous providence is "compatible" with voluntary choice. Our choices are not coerced ...i.e. we do not choose against what we want or desire, yet we never make choices contrary to God's sovereign decree.​

This is not true. God created evil and sends it to the world. Covid is a perfect example.

 

[Uriah123]

Hey you welcome to the discussion.

The subject is of these scriptures : Jesus said, 'With God all things are possible' (Matthew 19:26). ... It is the power of God that makes what seems impossible possible. Nothing is impossible with God(Luke 1:37).

if this is a literal statement, why doesn’t God heal my paraplegic friend?

Why doesn’t God stop the world from its wickedness if he is capable of making all things possible?

Why wouldn’t he just let us be able to have our past animals to raise from the dead that we loved so dearly?

What does the Holy Spirit tell you about the scripture can we try to prayerfully understand what is being iterated ?

Please help, thank you for your comments, and hope everyone is ready for thanksgiving ! Almost time.

Believe it or not what i'm about to write is actually in the favor of your friend and quite possibly you too.

Before i post this i believe 100% of the old testament is true and 100% of the new testament is true.

I originally wrote this for a secular philosophy forum.
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I adhere to a particular holy book and there are many holy books.

I believe the meaning of life pertains to a particular holy book but at the same time life is mostly about emotion. I did not come up with this concept but i use the phrase "Conservation of Emotion" (similar to conservation of energy in physics). I believe somewhere up in the heavens there is an emotional entity that has positive and negative or just positive emotion stored up in a giant vault(s). He inserts into each work place each day a certain amount of positive and negative emotion and customers effect the amount of positive and negative emotion in the work place. I believe the reason we have to work for a living is because "The foolishness of God is greater than the wizdom of Men (including Women)".

Greek Mythology is silly but life is silly and that plays into "The foolishness of God is greater than the wizdom of Men (including Women)".

I believe positive and negative emotion can neither be created nor destroyed.

The meaning of life is the following: Our only purpose in life is to process emotions but at the same time appear sane. I believe that emotional entity in the sky loves us all or at the very least cares about our long term well being (there is a difference between loving someone and caring for them).

Mathematics is a neccesary evil so don't think i'm an anti-nomian. The key to learning mathematics is self-doubt and sometimes even self-hatred.

I reject physicalism/materialism due to:

Hempel's Dilemna
Irriducible mentality
The Evolutionary argument against physicalism (Emergentism problem)
Universal Cracking of Causal Closure
and also the questions raised by pan-psychism.

If we don't find true love or true altruism in a local temple we will reject the religious beliefs of that local temple more often than not.

Sounds like Daoism doesn't it? Daoism is a little to practical considering the "The foolishness of God is greater than the wizdom of Men (including Women)."

Private message me if you want to know what holy book i subscribe to. Its not the Iliad.