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If one who says they are in Christ, succeeds in being loved by
militant sinners, where Jesus and the Apostles all failed to the point
they were barbarically murdered then it is probably a good idea to
check the Theology one is following and on whose side one actually stands.
I think you may have gotten it wrong, iamredeemed.

In reality and on these boards as well, there are many people who disagree with homosexuality that I get along with. They are, for the most part, strong in their faith and confident in their views. But I have respect for them because they treat me in a respectful manner.

However, you seem to be saying that if you haven't gotten the "militant sinners" to hate you, you haven't done your job. Ultimately I don't think that way of thinking is going to help your faith gain any followers. In fact,as it has happened time and time again, it will only push people away.
 
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I think you may have gotten it wrong, iamredeemed.

In reality and on these boards as well, there are many people who disagree with homosexuality that I get along with. They are, for the most part, strong in their faith and confident in their views. But I have respect for them because they treat me in a respectful manner.

However, you seem to be saying that if you haven't gotten the "militant sinners" to hate you, you haven't done your job. Ultimately I don't think that way of thinking is going to help your faith gain any followers. In fact,as it has happened time and time again, it will only push people away.
Exactly...

and thus Ghandi's famous line
 
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I AM JESSE DIRKISING:
Justice Served In Jesse Dirkhising Murder Case
Washington, DC - "The conviction of homosexual sadist Joshua Brown for the torture, rape, and murder of 13-year-old Jesse Dirkhising, is a relief to those of us in the pro-family community," said Rev. Louis P. Sheldon, Chairman of Traditional Values Coalition. "Brown has been sentenced to 25 years in prison for raping Jesse, but still faces life in prison on the murder charge."
... "Why is the death of Jesse Dirkhising of less importance than the death of Matthew Shepard at the hands of two killers? Is it because discussing the perverted lifestyle of Jesse's murderers isn't politically correct?"


I AM RYAN WHITE:

CDC (Center for Disease Control):

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In the United States, HIV infection and AIDS have had a tremendous effect on men who have sex with men (MSM). MSM accounted for 72% of all HIV infections among male adults and adolescents in 2005
CDC:

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Further, because MSM who do not disclose their sexual orientation are likely to have 1 or more female sex partners, MSM who become infected may transmit the virus to women as well as to men. In a small study of African American MSM college students and nonstudents in North Carolina, the participants had sexual risk factors for HIV infection, and 20% had a female sex partner during the preceding 12 months
ME:

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We all know that at one time over 85% of AIDS cases were homosexuals. This is an STD and we all know how it spread and by who and who is responsible.
Why does this have to be so difficult ?
 
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I AM JESSE DIRKISING:
Justice Served In Jesse Dirkhising Murder Case
Washington, DC - "The conviction of homosexual sadist Joshua Brown for the torture, rape, and murder of 13-year-old Jesse Dirkhising, is a relief to those of us in the pro-family community," said Rev. Louis P. Sheldon, Chairman of Traditional Values Coalition. "Brown has been sentenced to 25 years in prison for raping Jesse, but still faces life in prison on the murder charge."
... "Why is the death of Jesse Dirkhising of less importance than the death of Matthew Shepard at the hands of two killers? Is it because discussing the perverted lifestyle of Jesse's murderers isn't politically correct?"


I AM RYAN WHITE:

CDC (Center for Disease Control):

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In the United States, HIV infection and AIDS have had a tremendous effect on men who have sex with men (MSM). MSM accounted for 72% of all HIV infections among male adults and adolescents in 2005
CDC:

Quote:
Further, because MSM who do not disclose their sexual orientation are likely to have 1 or more female sex partners, MSM who become infected may transmit the virus to women as well as to men. In a small study of African American MSM college students and nonstudents in North Carolina, the participants had sexual risk factors for HIV infection, and 20% had a female sex partner during the preceding 12 months
ME:

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We all know that at one time over 85% of AIDS cases were homosexuals. This is an STD and we all know how it spread and by who and who is responsible.
Why does this have to be so difficult ?
Bafriend, why don't you start your own subject on this post?
 
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Bafriend, why don't you start your own subject on this post?
This is on topic because this is a debate forum (in case you forgot) and I am debating the OP.

Maybe, if the point of the OP is not to debate- it should have been posted somewhere else ?
 
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This is on topic because this is a debate forum (in case you forgot) and I am debating the OP.

Maybe, if the point of the OP is not to debate- it should have been posted somewhere else ?
Apparently the mods don't have any problem with it being here.
I'm aware that this is a debate forum. :)
But maybe you could make it more clear as how your post connects to the op? It's not very clear.
 
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I AM JESSE DIRKISING:
Justice Served In Jesse Dirkhising Murder Case
Washington, DC - "The conviction of homosexual sadist Joshua Brown for the torture, rape, and murder of 13-year-old Jesse Dirkhising, is a relief to those of us in the pro-family community," said Rev. Louis P. Sheldon, Chairman of Traditional Values Coalition. "Brown has been sentenced to 25 years in prison for raping Jesse, but still faces life in prison on the murder charge."
... "Why is the death of Jesse Dirkhising of less importance than the death of Matthew Shepard at the hands of two killers? Is it because discussing the perverted lifestyle of Jesse's murderers isn't politically correct?"


I AM RYAN WHITE:

CDC (Center for Disease Control):

Quote:
In the United States, HIV infection and AIDS have had a tremendous effect on men who have sex with men (MSM). MSM accounted for 72% of all HIV infections among male adults and adolescents in 2005
CDC:

Quote:
Further, because MSM who do not disclose their sexual orientation are likely to have 1 or more female sex partners, MSM who become infected may transmit the virus to women as well as to men. In a small study of African American MSM college students and nonstudents in North Carolina, the participants had sexual risk factors for HIV infection, and 20% had a female sex partner during the preceding 12 months
ME:

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We all know that at one time over 85% of AIDS cases were homosexuals. This is an STD and we all know how it spread and by who and who is responsible.
Why does this have to be so difficult ?

And being in Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, as he sat at meat, there came a woman having an alabaster box of ointment of spikenard very precious; and she brake the box, and poured it on his head.

And there were some that had indignation within themselves, and said, "Why was this waste of the ointment made? For it might have been sold for more than three hundred pence, and have been given to the poor." And they murmured against her.

And Jesus said, "Let her alone; why trouble ye her? she hath wrought a good work on me. For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always. She hath done what she could: she is come aforehand to anoint my body to the burying.

"Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her."​

The Gospel According to St. Mark
The Good News of our salvation
 
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I am the boy who never finished high school, because I got called cruel demeaning names everyday.

Lord, have mercy.

I am the girl kicked out of her home because I confided in my mother that I am a lesbian.

Christ, have mercy.

I am the prostitute working the streets because nobody will hire a transsexual woman.

Lord, have mercy.

I am the sister who holds her gay brother tight through the painful, tear-filled nights.

Christ, have mercy.

We are the parents who buried our daughter long before her time.

Lord, have mercy.

I am the man who died alone in the hospital because they would not let my partner of twenty-seven years into the room.

Christ, have mercy.

I am the foster child who wakes up with nightmares of being taken away from the two fathers who are the only loving family I have ever had. I wish they could adopt me.

Lord, have mercy.

I am not one of the lucky ones. I killed myself just weeks before graduating high school. It was simply too much to bear.

Christ, have mercy.

We are the couple who had the realtor hang up on us when she found out we wanted to rent a one-bedroom for two men.

Lord, have mercy.

I am the person who never knows which bathroom I should use if I want to avoid getting the management called on me.

Christ, have mercy.

I am the mother who is not allowed to even visit the children I bore, nursed, and raised. The court says I am an unfit mother because I now live with another woman.

Lord, have mercy.

I am the domestic-violence survivor who found the support system grow suddenly cold and distant when they found out my abusive partner is also a woman.

Christ, have mercy.

I am the domestic-violence survivor who has no support system to turn to because I am male.

Lord, have mercy.

I am the father who has never hugged his son because I grew up afraid to show affection to other men.

Christ, have mercy.

I am the home-economics teacher who always wanted to teach gym until someone told me that only lesbians do that.

Lord, have mercy.

I am the woman who died when the EMTs stopped treating me as soon as they realized I was transsexual. (yes, this actually happened)

Christ, have mercy.

I am the person who feels guilty because I think I could be a much better person if I didnt have to always deal with society hating me.

Lord, have mercy.

I am the boy tied to a fence, beaten to a bloody pulp and left to die because two straight men wanted to "teach me a lesson."

Christ, have mercy.

I am the woman who was raped to "make me straight again."

Lord, have mercy.

I am the man who stopped attending church, not because I don't believe, but because they closed their doors to my kind.

Christ, have mercy.

I am the person who was sent to a reparative therapy facility which taught me to hate myself for who I am, and my desires for what they are, and I don't know if I'll ever be able to find love.

Lord, have mercy.

I am the person who was told I could not be a Christian because I am attracted to people of my own sex.

Christ, have mercy.

I am the person who was excommunicated (and shunned) from my church when I confided my same-sex interests to the pastor, who promptly told the church council and the bishop.

Lord, have mercy.

I am the person who was fired from a job when my employer found out I had a same-sex partner -- which is perfectly legal in my state because there are no laws protecting GLBTs from being fired solely because of their sexual orientation.

Christ, have mercy.

I am the person who was told he/she is a "Godless, atheistic, homosexual fornicator who is doomed and damned and destined to burn forever in Hell" because I have a same-sex partner of 17 years.

Lord, have mercy.

I am the person who lost his faith because too many people who claimed to be "loving the sinner and hating the sin" used the Bible as a weapon to "convict" me of my sexual orientation, while they used the same Bible to let themselves off the hook for their sins of pride, insolence, haughtiness, arrogance, conceit, condemnation, narcissism, egotism, self-righteousness, cruelty and smugness -- I'll be damned if I ever set foot in a church again.

Christ, have mercy.

I am the person who is 80 years old and never truly loved anybody, never had a relationship, hated myself for who I am and whom I'm attracted to -- and am now lonely and isolated and waiting for my life to be over.

Lord, have mercy.

I am the person who looked at the behavior of Your followers, decided I'd be better off burning in Hell than acting like them if that's what Christianity is all about -- and have rejected Christianity, in toto.

Christ, have mercy.
Note: I have already reported my post to the mods for you, so you don't have to report it. :(
Very sad, I know.
All sin is harmful, not only to the one sinning, but oft times to just those they encounter..:(

Lord have mercy.:prayer:
 
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Some offer truth, some offer condemnation.

I embrace the sinner, I am one.
I embrace and love the homosexual, if you are saved I call you my brother, my sister, in Christ.
All sin causes harm, not that it is deserved, but that is why we need to avoid it.

The problem is that some do not see sin for what it is.
I hope that most here are here to share truth, not condemn or point fingers.

Their are none righteous, not one. We all fall short of the glory of God.
It is through Christ we are saved.
We have all sinned and in this flesh we still do, saved or not. I wish none would throw stones, but only seek to guide.

I love you all.
If you are saved, you are my brother, my sister in Christ.
You are all in my prayers, whatever sin you have committed. Rejoice for Christ has cleansed you of it all, past, present, future.
BUT the sins we commit still will do harm.
God love us, the sinners! What a miracle that is!
In Christ we can be free, seek and you shall find, knock and the door opened.

Love each other as God has loved you. Do not condemn one who you believe to be sinning. You may not be bound by the same sin, but you are a sinner just the same and only through the grace of God are you cleansed.
 
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Some offer truth, some offer condemnation.

I embrace the sinner, I am one.
I embrace and love the homosexual, if you are saved I call you my brother, my sister, in Christ.
All sin causes harm, not that it is deserved, but that is why we need to avoid it.

The problem is that some do not see sin for what it is.
I hope that most here are here to share truth, not condemn or point fingers.

Their are none righteous, not one. We all fall short of the glory of God.
It is through Christ we are saved.
We have all sinned and in this flesh we still do, saved or not. I wish none would throw stones, but only seek to guide.

I love you all.
If you are saved, you are my brother, my sister in Christ.
You are all in my prayers, whatever sin you have committed. Rejoice for Christ has cleansed you of it all, past, present, future.
BUT the sins we commit still will do harm.
God love us, the sinners! What a miracle that is!
In Christ we can be free, seek and you shall find, knock and the door opened.

Love each other as God has loved you. Do not condemn one who you believe to be sinning. You may not be bound by the same sin, but you are a sinner just the same and only through the grace of God are you cleansed.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.
 
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And being in Bethany in the house of Simon the leper, as he sat at meat, there came a woman having an alabaster box of ointment of spikenard very precious; and she brake the box, and poured it on his head.​


And there were some that had indignation within themselves, and said, "Why was this waste of the ointment made? For it might have been sold for more than three hundred pence, and have been given to the poor." And they murmured against her.​


And Jesus said, "Let her alone; why trouble ye her? she hath wrought a good work on me. For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always. She hath done what she could: she is come aforehand to anoint my body to the burying.​


"Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her."​
The Gospel According to St. Mark
The Good News of our salvation
What are you trying to do ? Perform an exorcism ?

Since someone presented all these crimes against homosexuals- why mind if we don't post some crimes commited by homosexuals ?

That was the entire Dirkising debate- the fact his rape and murder was completely ignored by the liberal media as Mathew Shepherd was painted into the poster boy as the gay messiah for being trick rolled when he sexually assaulted a petty thief while negotiating drugs for sex.

How about if I bring up the fact that I was robbed twice in my lifetime and both times it was by black men ? Or how about if I mention the fact that illegal aliens steal citizens IDs to gain employment all the while framing innocent people of tax evasion while destroying their credit rating for years ? Oh, but then I would be called a racist wouldn't I ? Not that I would not be called one anyway.

But go ahead and post a Litany for gay victims- it is really easy to paint yourself as a victim isn't it ?

A victim can blame blame blame and ignore their responsibilities.
 
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It has everything to do with it Gwenyfur.

We aren't standing on the corner with picket signs that says "God hates Fa**" or anything of the sort.

We are doing here what we are instructed by God's Word to do, that souls might hear and
hearken to the Word of the Lord. The world or other "Christians" do not have trump over
the Word of God. The above example would not be indicative of what God has called us to do.
THAT I can assure you. And none of us here condone that kind of thing
just saying so that you know..we don't.

And it is God's Word not our Word that is powerful and cuts the soul from the spirit,
the joints and the marrow and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword,
piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow,
and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

That is why we are told to preach it in season or out of season. God's
Word not ours has power to snatch souls.


If the Word of God is offensive to any, it might be a good idea to consider this verse:

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which
are saved it is the power of God. 1 Corinthians 1:18

This is a debate forum and overall the topic up for debate is whether or not Homosexuality and
all that is associated with it is sin. It is not a fellowship forum.That one is down the hall to the left.

:idea:

And what exactly do those scriptures have to do with showing love and compassion to your neighbor?

what do they say about breaking the command to love them as yourself.

what do those scripture say about those who promote judgement rather than forgiveness, the law rather than grace, tribulation instead of peace?

absolutely NOTHING.
 
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What are you trying to do ? Perform an exorcism ?

Since someone presented all these crimes against homosexuals- why mind if we don't post some crimes commited by homosexuals ?

That was the entire Dirkising debate- the fact his rape and murder was completely ignored by the liberal media as Mathew Shepherd was painted into the poster boy as the gay messiah for being trick rolled when he sexually assaulted a petty thief while negotiating drugs for sex.

How about if I bring up the fact that I was robbed twice in my lifetime and both times it was by black men ? Or how about if I mention the fact that illegal aliens steal citizens IDs to gain employment all the while framing innocent people of tax evasion while destroying their credit rating for years ? Oh, but then I would be called a racist wouldn't I ? Not that I would not be called one anyway.

But go ahead and post a Litany for gay victims- it is really easy to paint yourself as a victim isn't it ?

A victim can blame blame blame and ignore their responsibilities.

BA, these are not all crimes against homosexuals.

I am the boy who never finished high school, because I got called cruel demeaning names everyday.

I am the sister who holds her gay brother tight through the painful, tear-filled nights.

We are the parents who buried our daughter long before her time.

I am the foster child who wakes up with nightmares of being taken away from the two fathers who are the only loving family I have ever had. I wish they could adopt me.

I am the domestic-violence survivor who has no support system to turn to because I am male.

I am the father who has never hugged his son because I grew up afraid to show affection to other men.

I am the home-economics teacher who always wanted to teach gym until someone told me that only lesbians do that.

I am the person who looked at the behavior of Your followers, decided I'd be better off burning in Hell than acting like them if that's what Christianity is all about -- and have rejected Christianity, in toto.


These all affect heterosexual people as well. The point is that hate affects us all.

In the wise words of Yoda, "fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering"

It is this fear that needs to be stopped.
 
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What are you trying to do ? Perform an exorcism ?

Since someone presented all these crimes against homosexuals- why mind if we don't post some crimes commited by homosexuals ?

That was the entire Dirkising debate- the fact his rape and murder was completely ignored by the liberal media as Mathew Shepherd was painted into the poster boy as the gay messiah for being trick rolled when he sexually assaulted a petty thief while negotiating drugs for sex.

How about if I bring up the fact that I was robbed twice in my lifetime and both times it was by black men ? Or how about if I mention the fact that illegal aliens steal citizens IDs to gain employment all the while framing innocent people of tax evasion while destroying their credit rating for years ? Oh, but then I would be called a racist wouldn't I ? Not that I would not be called one anyway.

But go ahead and post a Litany for gay victims- it is really easy to paint yourself as a victim isn't it ?

A victim can blame blame blame and ignore their responsibilities.

And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, "God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess."

And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, "God be merciful to me a sinner."​

I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.​

The Gospel According to St. Luke
The Good News of our salvation.
 
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What are you trying to do ? Perform an exorcism ?

Since someone presented all these crimes against homosexuals- why mind if we don't post some crimes commited by homosexuals ?


That was the entire Dirkising debate- the fact his rape and murder was completely ignored "Diby the liberal media as Mathew Shepherd was painted into the poster boy as the gay messiah for being trick rolled when he sexually assaulted a petty thief while negotiating drugs for sex.

How about if I bring up the fact that I was robbed twice in my lifetime and both times it was by black men ? Or how about if I mention the fact that illegal aliens steal citizens IDs to gain employment all the while framing innocent people of tax evasion while destroying their credit rating for years ? Oh, but then I would be called a racist wouldn't I ? Not that I would not be anyway.

But go ahead and post a Litany for gay victims- it is really easy to paint yourself as a victim isn't it ?

A victim can blame blame blame and ignore their responsibilities.
I think people are aware that people of all sexual orientations, races, religions, backgrounds, etc. are capable of doing bad things (and good things). I don't think Uber or anyone else is trying to say that gay people have been the only ones to be victimized for who they are or abused. So I'm sure what responsibilities are being ignored?

Here is a quote I've always liked:
First they came…

"They came first for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time no one was left to speak up."
 
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It has everything to do with it Gwenyfur.

We aren't standing on the corner with picket signs that says "God hates Fa**" or anything of the sort.

We are doing here what we are instructed by God's Word to do, that souls might hear and
hearken to the Word of the Lord. The world or other "Christians" do not have trump over
the Word of God. The above example would not be indicative of what God has called us to do.
THAT I can assure you. And none of us here condone that kind of thing
just saying so that you know..we don't.

And it is God's Word not our Word that is powerful and cuts the soul from the spirit,
the joints and the marrow and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword,
piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow,
and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

That is why we are told to preach it in season or out of season. God's
Word not ours has power to snatch souls.


If the Word of God is offensive to any, it might be a good idea to consider this verse:

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which
are saved it is the power of God. 1 Corinthians 1:18

This is a debate forum and overall the topic up for debate is whether or not Homosexuality and
all that is associated with it is sin. It is not a fellowship forum.That one is down the hall to the left.

:idea:

We are called brothers. We actually are brothers. We share a common destiny in this life and the next. Why, then, do we act as though we are foes and enemies? Why do we envy one another? Why do we stir up hatred? Why do we ready lethal weapons for use against our brothers?

There has already been enough warfare among men! Too many youths in the flower of life have shed their blood already! Legions of the dead, all fallen in battle, dwell within this earth of ours.​

Blessed John XXIII
Ad Petri Cathedram

Kyrie Eleison
 
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If one who says they are in Christ, succeeds in being loved by
militant sinners, where Jesus and the Apostles all failed to the point
they were barbarically murdered then it is probably a good idea to
check the Theology one is following and on whose side one actually stands.

For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I
yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. Galatians 1:10

Jesus said,"He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathers
not with me scatters abroad.Matthew 12:30

"He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathers not with me scatters."
Luke 11:23

The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord.It is
enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord.
If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall
they call them of his household? Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered,
that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.

What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear,
that preach ye upon the housetops. And fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy
both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 10:24-28

Ezekiel 33:6-9
But if the watchman sees the enemy coming and doesn’t sound the alarm to warn the people, he is responsible for their captivity. They will die in their sins, but I will hold the watchman responsible for their deaths.’ “Now, son of man, I am making you a watchman for the people of Israel. Therefore, listen to what I say and warn them for me. If I announce that some wicked people are sure to die and you fail to tell them to change their ways, then they will die in their sins, and I will hold you responsible for their deaths. But if you warn them to repent and they don’t repent, they will die in their sins, but you will have saved yourself.


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The mind of the natural man does not comprehend
the things of God, neither can he know them as they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14
What are the greatest commandments? I'm sure you know...
What a good thing a definition of love is given in Scripture.
1 Corinthians 13:1If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,but have not love, I gain nothing.

4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. 11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 12Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. 13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.


Lord have mercy on me, a sinner :prayer:
 
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John 3:16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

Amazing grace, how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me!
 
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That same love is evident for the body of Christ in 1 Cor. 5 also as a safety mechanism...Everything we do should be motvated by love that is what unbelievers respond to, but they still are told truth..
 
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