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Based on your arbitrary opinion. You don't have any Scripture to support that.The second text is 6 monthns in, by that time soul has entered the body.
You hair, nails and bones grow because you are alive. It might surprise you, but the hair of a dead person doesn't grow.My hair grows, my nails grow and bone grows, no one would ever thing that they were alive. So convince me that the beginning stages of life are not like hair,nail and bone.
Ha, Yes, One of the very few things I know a little about. But I wont touch "opportunistic salpingectomy". That's for the smart people to debate.No fair. You are Catholic and are already clued into the answer.
Gen 2:7, breath of life come after the body is formed, then you become a living soulBased on your arbitrary opinion. You don't have any Scripture to support that.
but the hair, and nail and bone are not alive. they do not have thoughts and feelings. hair is not aware. yes there is genetic material and there is the instructions to form a body which becomes a person, it is not a person until you have the breath of life and have a soul. Ps 139:16,13 no soul mentioned in either text. just talking about formation. formation does not = life. it is construction.You hair, nails and bones grow because you are alive. It might surprise you, but the hair of a dead person doesn't grow.
Since you apparently missed any kind of biology lessons in school I'll help you out here: The identity of a person is known by their DNA. Your hair, nails and bones have the same DNA as the rest of your body - that's you. A child in the mother's womb, even if it is only 1 cell, has its own DNA, it is not part of the mother's body. It is a separate person from the very beginning, alive and growing.
Well, possibly, but according to right criteria such as ectopic pregancies, for example. We support the taking of life for purposes of self-defense or defending the innocent, for example, but not for just any reason, such as ridding ourselves of an inconvenience or even of a financial burden. Otherwise any birthed person who poses such a problem for us should be considered "fair game" as well.How about looking into ectopic pregnancy? The fetus develops in the fallopian tube. If the fetus is not aborted then both the mother and fetus will die! That is just one example of why the decision to terminate a pregnancy should be left to the woman and her medical caregiver.
I just told you why a human cell is not comparable to hair or bones, drop the strawman argument.but the hair, and nail and bone are not alive. they do not have thoughts and feelings. hair is not aware. yes there is genetic material and there is the instructions to form a body which becomes a person, it is not a person until you have the breath of life and have a soul. Ps 139:16,13 no soul mentioned in either text. just talking about formation. formation does not = life. it is construction.
wow what a demand. your objection is weak. you have not proven, you've simply stated an opinion. Animals do have souls Gen. 1:30. my definition come directly from the scripture: Genesis 2. So swing and a miss. look you have tripped over a big text that you haven't dealt with. so try again.I just told you why a human cell is not comparable to hair or bones, drop the strawman argument.
No sane person makes the definition of "life" dependent on the "soul", that's ridiculous. Animals have no soul, nor are they self-conscious. Animals still are alive without doubt. Your made-up definition of "life" doesn't withstand any scrutiny.
he was not alive when he was dirt/matter. it took God acting on the matter to add something to it. I think this is what happens in the womb.
Animals have no soul, nor are they self-conscious.
not hard to understand, but it did not address the text.
Adam's body was formed first, THEN a soul put in it.
Likewise, I believe that the body is formed first, then it gains a soul/consciousness.
...and if they are not in Christ ,ie, they number among the wicked, then they RETURN to Sheol from whence they came, Ps 9:17 The wicked will return to Sheol, all the nations who forget God. Check the Hebrew, not the KJV...the person you knew is gone, if they were in Christ, they're with Christ
I just told you why a human cell is not comparable to hair or bones, drop the strawman argument.
No sane person makes the definition of "life" dependent on the "soul", that's ridiculous. Animals have no soul, nor are they self-conscious. Animals still are alive without doubt. Your made-up definition of "life" doesn't withstand any scrutiny.
This does not demand that the spirit put into the new body was also newly created since it might have been pre-existing the body then sown into it...
Outside of Jeremiah 1:5 which verses would this be talking about?
Again, it is your arbitrary opinion as to when you consider the body is "formed" in the womb, beside the fact that Adam was unique in the manner of his creation to the rest of humanity.Gen 2:7, breath of life come after the body is formed, then you become a living soul
Did we see the creation of the physical universe:
Job 38:7 ...while the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
It really does read ALL the sons of GOD in the Hebrew though some interpret that as angels for eisegetical reasons...
We are said to be sown, not created, into the world implying a life before the creation of the world.
Matt 13:37 He replied, “The One who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed represents the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil.
And where were we, at least the wicked, before being sown into the world?
Ps 9:17 The wicked will RETURN to Sheol, all the nations who forget God.
3 verse sets out of dozens...is there a theme here?
17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
WHEN is when the breath of God enters the body, that is not conception, where exactly is specualtion, heart beat or brainwaves, but by that time it is a person.Again, it is your arbitrary opinion as to when you consider the body is "formed" in the womb, beside the fact that Adam was unique in the manner of his creation to the rest of humanity.
Adam was created as a mature man before God breathed life into him. John was not a mature man in Elizabeth's womb when he leapt with joy on hearing the voice of Mary, his Lord's mother, so your interpretation does not hold.
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