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Liberal Christian Attempts To Debate Atheist But They Just Agree On Everything

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  1. St_Worm2

    St_Worm2 Senior Member Supporter

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    Liberal Christian Attempts To Debate Atheist
    But They Just Agree On Everything

    November 27, 2017

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    SHERWOOD, OR—Local progressive believer Danielle Mason reportedly attempted to debate atheist Lucas Peterson on the various ideas including the existence of God at a local coffee shop Sunday evening, but ended up agreeing with him on every point.

    The two were surprised to find themselves in agreement on the inspiration of Scripture, the relevance of divine revelation, errors in the Bible, the creation account, and the exclusivity of Christ, among dozens of additional topics, sources confirmed.

    “I don’t believe in God,” the atheist began before laying out his case for the lack of any real deity as the progressive believer nodded in agreement the whole time.

    “I guess I don’t believe in God either, at least not in any concrete way,” Mason said pensively during her allotted 15-minute response time. “At least, I don’t think I do. What does it all even mean, anyway?”

    At one point, Mason attempted to argue for the need for biblical morality in the present age, but realized she didn’t believe in that either and backed off.

    At publishing time, Mason had realized she was just an atheist who liked the church’s social programs and sense of belonging, “just like Jesus was.”

    Liberal Christian Attempts To Debate Atheist But They Just Agree On Everything
     
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    Priceless.
     
  3. Winken

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    I'm convinced that the "Babylon Bee" is phony, cover-to-cover.
     
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    Well...yeah.
     
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  5. St_Worm2

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    BB is a "Christian Satire" site, and it's normally pretty fictional Christian satire, but every now and again their articles are anything but fictional (their review of The Nashville Statement and of people's reaction to it comes quickly to mind).
     
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    noun: satire
    the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.
     
  7. Lily of Valleys

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    If any Christian finds that their views are in line with the world and are loved by the world, it's time to evaluate if those views are in line with God.

    If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you. (John 15:19 NASB)

    do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect. (Romans 12:2 NASB)​
     
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  8. drjean

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    I'm not that familiar with the BB but wouldn't they have delineated from a "regular" Christian and a "liberal" Christian and gone right after the "regular" one instead, I mean, if it were faux news???
     
  9. Halbhh

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    That was amusing, but don't fool yourself into thinking that "conservative Christian" in the pew nearby necessarily has more faith. Or that the "liberal" in the next pew hasn't.

    The whole scheme of calling people "liberal" or "conservative" seems more a trick of the enemy than a good way to follow Christ.
     
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    I don't see where there was any Christian there.
     
  11. Radagast

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    This review?
     
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    Really, why do you say that?

    Jesus held the Scriptures in the highest regard, believing them to be both literal in meaning .. cf Matthew 19:4-6, and the inerrant, breathed word of God, saying again and again throughout His earthly teaching ministry, "it is written". He even credited Moses with writing the Five Books of Moses...........................

    John 5
    45 Do not think that I will accuse you before the Father; the one who accuses you is Moses, in whom you have set your hope.
    46 For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me.
    47 But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?

    ................................something no self-respecting liberal Christian would ever do ;)

    So in what ways was Jesus a liberal where the Christian faith is concerned :scratch:

    Thanks!

    Yours and His,
    David
     
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  16. Lily of Valleys

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    It depends on what you mean by "conservative". Jesus told His disciples to do and observe what the scribes and the Pharisees told them:

    Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to His disciples, saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses; therefore all that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they say things and do not do them. (Matthew 23:1-3 NASB)

    Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18 NASB)

    In fact, Jesus' standards are even stricter than the Laws that were given:

    “You have heard that the ancients were told, ‘You shall not commit murder’ and ‘Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.’ But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell. (Matthew 5:21-22 NASB)

    “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery’; but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell. (Matthew 5:27-30 NASB)
     
  17. Halbhh

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    He is above the labels conservative and liberal.

    We can't put God in a little box.
     
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    Jesus was not fond of religion:
    - But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.” Matthew 6-7

    - Jesus was not fond of the ten commandments.
    Matthew 36-40

    - Jesus/God does not like images statues, or idols to be used for the purposes of worship.

    - Jesus thinks church and state should remain seperate. Matthew 22:21

    - Jesus supports tax collection as the government wishes it. Matthew 22:21

    - Jesus is not fond of the wealthy people of this world. Matthew 19:24

    - Jesus believed in forming and expanding non-profits over capitalism. (1) Feed the hungry. (2) Give drink to the thirsty. (3) Clothe the naked. (4) Shelter the homeless. (5) Visit those in prison. (6) Comfort the sick. (7) Heal those in need. Matthew 21:12
    Matthew 25:36
     
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  20. SkyWriting

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    But Jesus never advocated for stricter local laws. He was illustrating how every person has sinned against God and how ineffective local governments are at even discovering Sin.

    Then he illustrated the folly of if you base your laws on "actions" then you would need to cut off the offending part of your body, if you think blaming the source of action is going to get you to Heaven.
     
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