Let's Talk About Hell (6)

[createdtoworship]

Originally Posted by gradyll

you are wrong again
so yes again both are wrong here!!!
sorry but your greek is a little iffy.
all the more your true colors for translating are coming through.
you are adding to the word of God.
I can tell you are (cheating) on your greek anyway
You should try to learn greek without the aids.
a little knowledge is a dangerous thing

​

Here's a tip for you. Just because the grizzly bear looks friendly and good natured, don't keep poking it with a stick.

are you going to call me a "windbag" like you did the other?

http://www.christianforums.com/t7648154-10/#post60644541

 

[Timothew]

are you going to call me a "windbag" like you did the other?

http://www.christianforums.com/t7648154-10/#post60644541

There is no need to.


Originally Posted by gradyll

you are wrong again
so yes again both are wrong here!!!
sorry but your greek is a little iffy.
all the more your true colors for translating are coming through.
you are adding to the word of God.
I can tell you are (cheating) on your greek anyway
You should try to learn greek without the aids.
a little knowledge is a dangerous thing

​

 

[createdtoworship]

There is no need to.


Originally Posted by gradyll

you are wrong again
so yes again both are wrong here!!!
sorry but your greek is a little iffy.
all the more your true colors for translating are coming through.
you are adding to the word of God.
I can tell you are (cheating) on your greek anyway
You should try to learn greek without the aids.
a little knowledge is a dangerous thing

​

thank you, for what thats worth

It seems you are a windbag.

 

[Timothew]

That wasn't directed at you, and as I said before that discussion is over.
Anyway, here is the translation that you find SO offensive that you HAVE to insult me for it.
2 Corinthians 5:8 says
θαρροῦμεν δὲ καὶ εὐδοκοῦμεν μᾶλλον ἐκδημῆσαι ἐκ τοῦ σώματος καὶ ἐνδημῆσαι πρὸς τὸν κύριον.
We are of good courage and prefer rather to be away from home from the body and to be at home with the Lord.

Yes, that translation is worthy of insult.

 

[createdtoworship]

That wasn't directed at you, and as I said before that discussion is over.
Anyway, here is the translation that you find SO offensive that you HAVE to insult me for it.
2 Corinthians 5:8 says
θαρροῦμεν δὲ καὶ εὐδοκοῦμεν μᾶλλον ἐκδημῆσαι ἐκ τοῦ σώματος καὶ ἐνδημῆσαι πρὸς τὸν κύριον.
We are of good courage and prefer rather to be away from home from the body and to be at home with the Lord.

Yes, that translation is worthy of insult.

the first instance of "home" is not found in any greek text. The second instance of "home" is an interpretation of the text and still not in any greek text. That was the problem for it.

 

[Timothew]

the first instance of "home" is not found in any greek text. The second instance of "home" is an interpretation of the text and still not in any greek text. That was the problem for it.

Well, insult me for 3 more pages then. Do it quickly so we can move on.

 

[createdtoworship]

Well, insult me for 3 more pages then. Do it quickly so we can move on.

why are you making a mountain out of a mole hill, you want me to find more places where you have insulted people and post them?

 

[Timothew]

Look at LSJ, for some reason it won't post properly.

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0057%3Aentry%3De)kdhme%2Fw

 

[createdtoworship]

ll search options are on the right side and top of the page.
<DIV id=text_main><DIV class="text_container en" xmlns:dctype="http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/" xmlnserseus="http://www.perseus.org/meta/perseus.rdfs#" xmlns:tufts="http://www.tufts.edu/"><DIV class=text>&#7952;&#957;&#948;&#951;&#956;-&#941;&#969; , Dor. &#7952;&#957;&#948;&#945;_&#956;&#941;&#969; , <DIV class="lex_sense lex_sense1">A. live at or in a place, Lys.9.5, IG12(5).534.6 (Ceos, ii B. C.); simply, stay, remain in a place, “&#956;&#941;&#967;&#961;&#953;&#962; &#7938;&#957; &#7952;&#957;&#948;&#951;&#956;&#8182;&#963;&#953;&#957; &#959;&#7985; &#960;&#961;&#941;&#963;&#946;&#949;&#953;&#962;” Aen.Tact.10.11; <SPAN class=greek>&#7952;&#957;&#948;&#951;&#956;&#8182;&#957; &#954;&#945;&#8054;

thanks but I am watching a movie, I will do it later.

(if I remember)

 

[Timothew]

On a trip, go abroad = away from home
live at or in a place = at home

 

[createdtoworship]

On a trip, go abroad = away from home
live at or in a place = at home

your funny man,

can't let it go.

It's fine, your too sensitive today to talk anymore about this.

 

[Timothew]

your funny man,

can't let it go.

It's fine, your too sensitive today to talk anymore about this.

I just don't understand. I'm not even wrong, but you insult me as if I were wrong. You keep it up for page after page, when even if I were wrong, it would be a minor thing. Then after all the insulting, you say I am too sensitive. This whole thing is weird. You have a real problem, and it really doesn't have anything to do with me.

 

[createdtoworship]

I just don't understand. I'm not even wrong, but you insult me as if I were wrong.

thats your real issue. Every thing that contradicts you is an insult in your eyes.

 

[Timothew]

No, these are insults
Originally Posted by gradyll

you are wrong again
so yes again both are wrong here!!!
sorry but your greek is a little iffy.
all the more your true colors for translating are coming through.
you are adding to the word of God.
I can tell you are (cheating) on your greek anyway
You should try to learn greek without the aids.
a little knowledge is a dangerous thing

​

But that's who you are.

 

[Timothew]

You are going on ignore. I'm just not interested in your petty insults.

 

[createdtoworship]

You are going on ignore. I'm just not interested in your petty insults.

have a nice day

 

[LutheranMafia]

the first word has nothing to do with home. They are translating it this way because home can be translated later in then next few verses. So you are using a translating aid I can tell.

You should try to learn greek without the aids.

the last word in the verse "to be present" can mean to be present at home. but the former word "absent" means absent abroad, nothing to do with home persay. So this is why it is not a literal translation to add home twice especially when it's not actually in the greek.

a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Timothew, if this is so insulting why don't you report this as a flame? (Answer, because you know it will be ignored by staff since this is clearly not a flame.)

 

[Timothew]

Timothew, if this is so insulting why don't you report this as a flame? (Answer, because you know it will be ignored by staff since this is clearly not a flame.)

Originally Posted by gradyll

you are wrong again
so yes again both are wrong here!!!
sorry but your greek is a little iffy.
all the more your true colors for translating are coming through.
you are adding to the word of God.
I can tell you are (cheating) on your greek anyway
You should try to learn greek without the aids.
a little knowledge is a dangerous thing

​

This isn't about torturism or hell, so there is no reason for you to defend your team mate. I have gradyll on ignore, so the problem is solved. If you like to look at his insults of me because they make you feel better about your doctrine, then here they are. They get old after a while. I showed that my translation was accurate, but that sticks in gradyll's craw more than if I was actually wrong. But you and gradyll are buddies, so go ahead and cheer him on as he insults me.

 

[createdtoworship]

Timothew, if this is so insulting why don't you report this as a flame? (Answer, because you know it will be ignored by staff since this is clearly not a flame.)

at least he didn't call me a windbag.

It seems you are a windbag.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7648154-10/#post60644541

 

[Timothew]

Originally Posted by gradyll

you are wrong again
so yes again both are wrong here!!!
sorry but your greek is a little iffy.
all the more your true colors for translating are coming through.
you are adding to the word of God.
I can tell you are (cheating) on your greek anyway
You should try to learn greek without the aids.
a little knowledge is a dangerous thing
​