Lets read about the firmament

[Aman777]

So, the word is not ceiling. It is firmament.

Amen, and God called Adam's firmament "Heaven". Genesis 1:8 He was referring to the first Heaven. Today's Cosmos is the second Heaven. When this one is burned, 2 Peter 3:10 all Christians will be safe in the third Heaven. ll Cor 12:2 and Rev. 21:1 All three are literal physical Heavens.

Adam's Earth was totally destroyed (Greek-perished, totally) in the flood. 2 Pet 3:6
The present Earth will be burned. 2 Pet 3:10 The ground/Earth in the 3rd Heaven is eternal along with ALL of it's "host". Genesis 2:1

 

[TLK Valentine]

After A and B are divided up,
1. You need to keep them apart;
2. You do not need to keep them apart. They are apart.

Why can't you see this simple difference?

Remind me again why we need a firmament?

 

[TLK Valentine]

The hollow firmament contained Adam's small Earth and it was placed in the midst/ under water and the firmament was totally surrounded by water. The present firmament is in the midst of the ground ready for burning and to provide a big grave for unbelievers, forever. 2 Peter 3:10 Amen?

You're saying the current firmament is surrounded by dirt? That's a lot of dirt...

 

[Aman777]

You're saying the current firmament is surrounded by dirt? That's a lot of dirt...

I know. Does it make you realize how big the 3rd Heaven is? Our entire Cosmos is under the ground of the Multiverse. Amen?

 

[Chinchilla]

I know. Does it make you realize how big the 3rd Heaven is? Our entire Cosmos is under the ground of the Multiverse. Amen?

No such thing as multiverse exists everything is inside of the firmament which is solid and blue . You can google blue rock it's made out of oxygen and solid .

 

[TLK Valentine]

I know. Does it make you realize how big the 3rd Heaven is? Our entire Cosmos is under the ground of the Multiverse. Amen?

Is it really a multiverse if it's all part of the same place?

 

[Chinchilla]

Job 37:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?

 

[juvenissun]

I blame the people of the Ancient Near East, like the Hebrews and Babylonians. We know what they meant by firmament. It is a solid dome with lights 'in' it. It is nothing like reality.

No, I don't blame them. They had no real way to know any better.

Planet has air. Space (dark matter) "outside" the air. That is the firmament. Excellent description.

At that time, it was the best way to describe the reality. It is still pretty good today consider the purpose of description. It does not work as a science textbook, but the information is correct.

 

[juvenissun]

Remind me again why we need a firmament?

One purpose is to host stars and planets.
And there are others.

 

[Aman777]

No such thing as multiverse exists everything is inside of the firmament which is solid and blue . You can google blue rock it's made out of oxygen and solid .

False, since Adam's universe perished, which in Greek means it was totally destoyed in the flood. ll Peter 3:6 The present universe is under the ground of the multiverse just waiting to be burned.

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever:

 

[Chinchilla]

False, since Adam's universe perished, which in Greek means it was totally destoyed in the flood. ll Peter 3:6 The present universe is under the ground of the multiverse just waiting to be burned.

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever:

Umm , where did Noah go then with his boat ? Was it submarine which came under water ?

 

[TLK Valentine]

One purpose is to host stars and planets.
And there are others.

Such as...?

 

[Aman777]

Umm , where did Noah go then with his boat ? Was it submarine which came under water ?

Noah was born on Adam's Earth and lived there for 600 years. God told Noah to build a 450 ft Ark and Noah obeyed. God took the solid self-sufficient firmament from the water in the Multiverse and delivered it into the water of Lake Van, Turkey, in the mountains of Ararat. The windows on top of the firmament were opened and it rained for 40 days and nights and the bottom of the firmament sank in the Lake releasing the Ocean going sized Ark into the Lake.

That is WHY History shows that Human (descendant of Adam) civilization on this Earth arrived suddenly in the mountains of Ararat EXACTLY as God told us in Genesis 8:4 and which is recorded here. http://www.fsmitha.com/h1/map00-fc.html Lake Van is the big Lake between Mt Ararat and the Fertile Crescent.

 

[Chinchilla]

Ezekiel 1:26-28 King James Version (KJV)
26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.

 

[Aman777]

Such as...?

The first firmament/Heaven was a solid boundary between Adam's Earth and the water which totally surrounded his universe. Gen 1:6-7 The boundary of the present universe is beyond the cosmic radiation background and inside the ground of the multiverse which keeps us from seeing the 3rd Heaven. Christians will go from the present universe into the 3rd Heaven, which means that we will avoid the total destruction of our universe by fire. Unbelievers stay here by their own free choice.

 

[Aman777]

Is it really a multiverse if it's all part of the same place?

A multiverse is composed of more than one universe. God made three. We live in the second Heaven. Christians will go to the 3rd Heaven today on the Day of Salvation, the 6th Day, when God is creating sinners eternally, in Christ. Soon, God will rest/cease creating since the third Heaven will be brought to perfection and filled with ALL of it's "host". Genesis 2:1

 

[Aman777]

Ezekiel 1:26-28 King James Version (KJV)
26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.

It's Jesus in the OT. They called Him YHWH and the KJV translators called Him Lord God. Jesus IS Lord. Amen?

 

[Chinchilla]

It's Jesus in the OT. They called Him YHWH and the KJV translators called Him Lord God. Jesus IS Lord. Amen?

Jesus is YHWH but It's talking about the firmament and the sapphire which was shown in my previous post which was found to be almost all made from oxygen and blue .

 

[TLK Valentine]

The first firmament/Heaven was a solid boundary between Adam's Earth and the water which totally surrounded his universe. Gen 1:6-7 The boundary of the present universe is beyond the cosmic radiation background and inside the ground of the multiverse which keeps us from seeing the 3rd Heaven. Christians will go from the present universe into the 3rd Heaven, which means that we will avoid the total destruction of our universe by fire. Unbelievers stay here by their own free choice.

That's nice, but I was hoping to hear juvenissun's explanation -- his story is a little different from yours.

 

[TLK Valentine]

A multiverse is composed of more than one universe. God made three. We live in the second Heaven. Christians will go to the 3rd Heaven today on the Day of Salvation, the 6th Day, when God is creating sinners eternally, in Christ. Soon, God will rest/cease creating since the third Heaven will be brought to perfection and filled with ALL of it's "host". Genesis 2:1

But aren't you saying that all these "heavens" are in the same physical space? There's firmament, dirt, and then.... what?