Lets read about the firmament

[juvenissun]

You can tell when cognitive dissonance gets really strong.

What do you mean by "it"? If it does what?

If the ceiling (firmament) CAN accommodate lights, then how should the ceiling look like?

Is sky the ceiling of the earth? Firmament is a better word for that kind of ceiling.

 

[juvenissun]

Really? When was the last time you found air to be firm? Do you have trouble walking through the air where you live because of its consistency?

Put the temperature aside, do you know how is the "air" like on the surface of the sun?

Go back and learn more science.

 

[AV1611VET]

When was the last time you found air to be firm?

During Supertyphoon Pamela.

Do you have trouble walking through the air where you live because of its consistency?

Air can hold up clouds that weigh more than 1.1 million pounds!

 

[TLK Valentine]

The Bible does not say to "keep" Water out. The Water IS out.

Genesis 1:6-7
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

Now, maybe you know how to divide the water without keeping at least some of it out...

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Put the temperature aside, do you know how is the "air" like on the surface of the sun?

Go back and learn more science.

Before I learn more science you need to learn some English. Go back to the dictionary and look up "air". Then tell me when was the last time you found solid air.

Seriously, you've lost the argument.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Put the temperature aside, do you know how is the "air" like on the surface of the sun?

Go back and learn more science.

Actually, we do know. Make a point?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

During Supertyphoon Pamela.

No, you didn't.

Air can hold up clouds that weigh more than 1.1 million pounds!

And......?

 

[juvenissun]

Genesis 1:6-7
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

Now, maybe you know how to divide the water without keeping at least some of it out...

This is the Bible, not a novel. You can not ADD information to it.
Divide is divide, keep is keep. They are two VERY different mechanism.

Do you have enough science training? It seems that I, a creationist, need to review basic scientific concept with most non-creationists.

 

[juvenissun]

Actually, we do know. Make a point?

Then, tell me the key difference between gas and fluid. Just use a few words. May be no more than 5.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Then, tell me the key difference between gas and fluid. Just use a few words. May be no more than 5.

Why don't you answer a question first? I asked when you last experienced firm air. Still waiting for a response.

 

[juvenissun]

Why don't you answer a question first? I asked when you last experienced firm air. Still waiting for a response.

You can continue to wait. Or, you can study what I have said.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

You can continue to wait. Or, you can study what I have said.

Stultology doesn't interest me that much, though there are ripe pickings to be had on this forum.

 

[TLK Valentine]

This is the Bible, not a novel. You can not ADD information to it.
Divide is divide, keep is keep. They are two VERY different mechanism.

Explain them.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Then, tell me the key difference between gas and fluid. Just use a few words. May be no more than 5.

You're trying to distract.

(Hey, that's 4!)

 

[essentialsaltes]

If the ceiling (firmament) CAN accommodate lights, then how should the ceiling look like?

You already described how it is supposed to be according to you: "lights in the firmament".

I already showed what that looks like.

That does not describe the stars in the sky.

Firmament is a better word for that kind of ceiling.

That kind of ceiling does not describe reality.

 

[juvenissun]

Explain them.

After A and B are divided up,
1. You need to keep them apart;
2. You do not need to keep them apart. They are apart.

Why can't you see this simple difference?

 

[juvenissun]

That does not describe the stars in the sky.
That kind of ceiling does not describe reality.

So, the word is not ceiling. It is firmament.
It is YOU who made it like a ceiling. Blame yourself.

 

[essentialsaltes]

So, the word is not ceiling. It is firmament.
It is YOU who made it like a ceiling. Blame yourself.

I blame the people of the Ancient Near East, like the Hebrews and Babylonians. We know what they meant by firmament. It is a solid dome with lights 'in' it. It is nothing like reality.

No, I don't blame them. They had no real way to know any better.

 

[AV1611VET]

We know what they meant by firmament.

So knowing what you know now with all your science to support you, what's your excuse for getting Genesis 1 wrong?

Anyone can blame the Jews for this or that.

But can you blame that guy in the mirror?

Or do you want me to do it for you?

 

[Aman777]

That would mean that at the edge of the firmament is nothing but massive amounts of water...

And since the firmament is now known as "outer space," that's a lot of water...

The hollow firmament contained Adam's small Earth and it was placed in the midst/ under water and the firmament was totally surrounded by water. The present firmament is in the midst of the ground ready for burning and to provide a big grave for unbelievers, forever. 2 Peter 3:10 Amen?