Lets read about the firmament

[TLK Valentine]

Jesus caused the singularity that produced our world and it was some 9 Billion years BEFORE the Sun appeared. God the Son is responsible for it's creation. John 1:3

That's nice -- now, what do you call that big bright thing in the sky again?

Not so, since we are speaking of Adam's small world, which is probably less than 10 miles in diameter and was made Billions of years BEFORE our Sun appeared in the Universe. It consisted largely of common ancestors which Jesus made with His Own Hands. Genesis 2:19 Amen?

I see you've backpedaled from a 50 mile diameter to a mere 10. So where does Noah fit into all this?

 

[Aman777]

I see you've backpedaled from a 50 mile diameter to a mere 10. So where does Noah fit into all this?

Noah is inside the 450 ft Ark which is on the ground in Adam's small firmament/Heaven. After 40 days and nights of rain, the firmament fills and sinks into Lake Van, releasing the Ocean-going sized Ark into the Lake, smoothly and safely. No breakups, snow nor cold mountain tops damage Noah's Ark. Also, NO Global flood necessary. Amen?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Noah is inside the 450 ft Ark which is on the ground in Adam's small firmament/Heaven. After 40 days and nights of rain, the firmament fills and sinks into Lake Van, releasing the Ocean-going sized Ark into the Lake, smoothly and safely. No breakups, snow nor cold mountain tops damage Noah's Ark. Also, NO Global flood necessary. Amen?

You've still got all those generations of humans from Adam to Noah, plus all the other animals, plus all the vegetation required to keep them all fed... in addition to all the vegetation from which our wonderous variety would allegedly come from, on an ever-shrinking plot of land... from 50 miles across to 10... I suspect it'll be a block and a half before you're done.

And if there was no global flood, then the Bible lied... it was very clear that the Earth, not some little biosphere in a bubble, was flooded.

So you see, a global flood is quite necessary... unless we're supposed to replace God's word with yours.

 

[Aman777]

You've still got all those generations of humans from Adam to Noah, plus all the other animals, plus all the vegetation required to keep them all fed... in addition to all the vegetation from which our wonderous variety would allegedly come from, on an ever-shrinking plot of land... from 50 miles across to 10...

There were millions of prehistoric people already here when Noah arrived bringing the first Humans (descendants of Adam) to our Earth. There was plenty of vegetation too as the Dove discovered when he flew to the shore of Lake Van. IOW, when Noah arrived 11k years ago, he brought the unique creatures which our world did not have, the ones Jesus made from the ground with His Own Hands. Genesis 2:19

And if there was no global flood, then the Bible lied... it was very clear that the Earth, not some little biosphere in a bubble, was flooded.

So you see, a global flood is quite necessary... unless we're supposed to replace God's word with yours.

The global flood was on Adam's Earth, in his small firmament, which God called Heaven. That is WHY it's at the bottom of Lake Van while our Earth has nor ever will suffer a global flood. God's Truth is the Truth in every way. Amen?

 

[TLK Valentine]

There were millions of prehistoric people already here when Noah arrived bringing the first Humans (descendants of Adam) to our Earth. There was plenty of vegetation too as the Dove discovered when he flew to the shore of Lake Van. IOW, when Noah arrived 11k years ago, he brought the unique creatures which our world did not have, the ones Jesus made from the ground with His Own Hands. Genesis 2:19

Remind me again why a big ol' steel sphere was necessary?

The global flood was on Adam's Earth, in his small firmament, which God called Heaven. That is WHY it's at the bottom of Lake Van while our Earth has nor ever will suffer a global flood. God's Truth is the Truth in every way. Amen?

Heaven is under Lake Van -- and you want me to talk scientists into digging for it?

 

[Aman777]

Remind me again why a big ol' steel sphere was necessary?
Heaven is under Lake Van -- and you want me to talk scientists into digging for it?

Ha ha ha, you're so funny Ha ha ha etc....You should be on the Stage.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Ha ha ha, you're so funny Ha ha ha etc....You should be on the Stage.

This is not how you get people to beg scientists on your behalf...