Lets keep it simple...

[maco]

Show me one Bible verse that says Sunday is the Lord's day?

There must be many verses that say Sunday is the Lord's day since just about the entire Christian community, who get their beliefs from the Bible, say Sunday is the Lord's day.

I'll be waiting...

 

[SwordFall]

Show me one Bible verse that says Sunday is the Lord's day?

There must be many verses that say Sunday is the Lord's day since just about the entire Christian community, who get their beliefs from the Bible, say Sunday is the Lord's day.

I'll be waiting...

Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, and we revere the Lord's Rise. He makes all things new, remember? It happened on that day.

So you can Bible thump all you want, it isn't going to get you anywhere.

 

[ChristianT]

Lord's Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

SDAs say Saturday. Everyone else says Sunday...since the second century, at most.

 

[JohnRabbit]

I'll be waiting...

you may as well be rip van winkle!

 

[MJohn7]

This is the only scripture i can recall. It seems to suggest that days are unimportant.

Romans 14:5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord;[a] and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it.

 

[maco]

Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, and we revere the Lord's Rise. He makes all things new, remember? It happened on that day.

So you can Bible thump all you want, it isn't going to get you anywhere.

Do you feel the desire to lash out at me because of my question? Did you ever wonder where that feeling is coming from?

There is not one verse in the entire Bible that says Sunday is the Lord's day so the fact that I say the seventh day Sabbath is the Lord's day and because it's all over the Bible you get the urge to lash out. Did you ever wonder why that is? Where is that feeling coming from? Is it coming from God?

The seventh day is the Lord's day and Jesus didn't resurrect on Sunday nor did the early church gather on Sunday. All I'm doing is speaking the truth.

Here comes that urge to lash out again.

 

[maco]

This is the only scripture i can recall. It seems to suggest that days are unimportant.

Romans 14:5 One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord;[a] and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it.

Lets think about that for a minute. What if I choose to esteem Tuesday for sacred assembly and you choose to esteem Thursday but the Pastor chooses to esteem Wednesday for sacred assembly. Where is the unity? Where is the ability to enjoy the gifts that God has given to each of us to edify His body, the church? The discussion in Romans 14 was not about the seventh day of creation, but rather, it was about doubtful things. Doubtful things are things that are not clearly commanded by God.

Romans 14:1 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things.

The seventh day Sabbath is not a doubtful thing. The discussion in Romans 14 was about eating or not eating, which was rooted in the opinions of men, not God. The discussion in Romans was not about the Sabbath, but rather, it was about special days esteemed by man for fasting.

Romans 14:5-6 One man esteems one day above another; another man esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.

One man would esteem one day for fasting above another day and another man would consider everyday alike. There were many disputes in the early church about when to fast.

Matthew 9:14 Then the disciples of John came to Him, saying, “Why do we and the Pharisees fast often, but Your disciples do not fast?”

Mark 2:18 The disciples of John and of the Pharisees were fasting. Then they came and said to Him, “Why do the disciples of John and of the Pharisees fast, but Your disciples do not fast?”

Which day to fast is based on opinions because there was no command given by God so that left it open for debate and personal choice.

God gives no command as to which day to fast or not to fast. Paul says he who chooses to fast let him be fully convinced in his own mind as to which day he chooses.

Either way it says nothing about Sunday being the Lord's day.

 

[maco]

Lord's Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

SDAs say Saturday. Everyone else says Sunday...since the second century, at most.

NO! God says it's Saturday and the SDA agree with Him.

 

[prodromos]

Show me one Bible verse that says Sunday is the Lord's day?

There must be many verses that say Sunday is the Lord's day since just about the entire Christian community, who get their beliefs from the Bible, say Sunday is the Lord's day.

We don't get our beliefs from the bible, we get our beliefs from the Apostles.

 

[MJohn7]

Lets think about that for a minute. What if I choose to esteem Tuesday for sacred assembly and you choose to esteem Thursday but the Pastor chooses to esteem Wednesday for sacred assembly. Where is the unity? Where is the ability to enjoy the gifts that God has given to each of us to edify His body, the church? The discussion in Romans 14 was not about the seventh day of creation, but rather, it was about doubtful things. Doubtful things are things that are not clearly commanded by God.

Romans 14:1 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things.

The seventh day Sabbath is not a doubtful thing. The discussion in Romans 14 was about eating or not eating, which was rooted in the opinions of men, not God. The discussion in Romans was not about the Sabbath, but rather, it was about special days esteemed by man for fasting.

Romans 14:5-6 One man esteems one day above another; another man esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks.

One man would esteem one day for fasting above another day and another man would consider everyday alike. There were many disputes in the early church about when to fast. Which day to fast is based on opinions because there was no command given by God so that left it open for debate and personal choice.

Matthew 9:14 Then the disciples of John came to Him, saying, “Why do we and the Pharisees fast often, but Your disciples do not fast?”

Mark 2:18 The disciples of John and of the Pharisees were fasting. Then they came and said to Him, “Why do the disciples of John and of the Pharisees fast, but Your disciples do not fast?”

God gives no command as to which day to fast or not to fast. Paul says he who chooses to fast let him be fully convinced in his own mind as to which day he chooses.

To me, after reading much NT doctrine, i have come to the conclusion that holy days are not important, what is important is holiness. That's just my opinion. Im not interested in holy days of any kind, its more important to me that i bear my cross daily and follow love, holiness, peace with all men, and godliness.

 

[MJohn7]

We don't get our beliefs from the bible, we get our beliefs from the Apostles.

The apostles words are in the bible.

 

[maco]

you may as well be rip van winkle!

 

[SwordFall]

Do you feel the desire to lash out at me because of my question? Did you ever wonder where that feeling is coming from?

There is not one verse in the entire Bible that says Sunday is the Lord's day so the fact that I say the seventh day Sabbath is the Lord's day and because it's all over the Bible you get the urge to lash out. Did you ever wonder why that is? Where is that feeling coming from? Is it coming from God?

The seventh day is the Lord's day and Jesus didn't resurrect on Sunday nor did the early church gather on Sunday. All I'm doing is speaking the truth.

Here comes that urge to lash out again.

The Bible is not the only source of information. And at that, you follow the same canon that was put together by the people who prescribed Sunday as the Sabbath day anyhow. What are you, a walking miranda right?

You're the one that's lashing out. Coming on here, trying to uphold some Godly supremacy out of a day. Don't insult my intelligence with that hubris.

 

[maco]

We don't get our beliefs from the bible, we get our beliefs from the Apostles.

Do you hear how silly you sound. We just get sillier and sillier the more we try to use human reason to refute clear biblical truth.

 

[ChristianT]

NO! God says it's Saturday and the SDA agree with Him.

Aaand...it's no longer simple. You say this, however it seems you started the thread with some large presuppositions. "just about the entire Christian community, who get their beliefs from the Bible," when you said this, not only did it sound tongue-in-cheek (was it?), but it also doesn't represent even half of the entire Christian community, only a small minority. Most Christian communities get their beliefs from at least one source other than the Bible. But, for simplicity's sake, I'll leave out examples.*













*unless you ask for them, of course.

 

[maco]

you follow the same canon that was put together by the people who prescribed Sunday as the Sabbath day anyhow.

This is why you find tweaks in the Bible to fit Sunday observance. This change did not happen by chance, it was prophesied by God that it would happen many years ago.

 

[maco]

Aaand...it's no longer simple. You say this, however it seems you started the thread with some large presuppositions. "just about the entire Christian community, who get their beliefs from the Bible," when you said this, not only did it sound tongue-in-cheek (was it?), but it also doesn't represent even half of the entire Christian community, only a small minority. Most Christian communities get their beliefs from at least one source other than the Bible. But, for simplicity's sake, I'll leave out examples.*
*unless you ask for them, of course.

I did keep it a very simple question but the answers made it complicated. All they had to say is that Sunday, as the Lord's day, is not in the Bible and that it's a man made tradition not supported by Scripture.

 

[Mankin]

Here's a Lil Bub to calm the proclamations.

 

[ChristianT]

Meanwhile, what is the defense for the idea that Traditions are ebil?

 

[SwordFall]

This is why you find tweaks in the Bible to fit Sunday observance. This change did not happen by chance, it was prophesied by God that it would happen many years ago.

Then I guess we're all just gonna to have to go to Hell then, huh?

The fact of the matter is that you seem to think people were like "forget Saturday, Saturday's stupid, let's make it Sunday, because Sunday is AWESOME!"
Why don't you look at the real reason, instead of Bible thumping, acting stupid.

Switch your day to Saturday. Has anything changed for you?
Hell no, it has not. And you're just bent out of shape, like 'ol Ellen herself, who just wanted to one up white people, in thinking you have some moral supremacy over a DAY.