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Is he coming soon?

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Is this a pre-trib rapture proof text?

Isaiah 26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.

This is not talking about removing the church to heaven to hide out behind closed doors while the tribulation takes place on earth. That concept is ridiculous. No one hides out from anything in heaven and especially not behind a closed door. This is the kind of exegesis that produces a mythical trip to heaven for the resurrected and glorified church.

This is what the entire scripture said.

Isaiah 26:19-21 New King James Version (NKJV)
19 Your dead shall live;
Together with my dead body they shall arise.
Awake and sing, you who dwell in dust;
For your dew is like the dew of herbs,
And the earth shall cast out the dead.

20 Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.

21 For behold, the Lord comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;
The earth will also disclose her blood,
And will no more cover her slain.

You might want to continue cherry-picking verses as Jesus will also cherry pick certain Christians He'll take with Him to heaven when He comes to rapture the church.

All those He takes with Him are all those who takes all verses from the bible into context and considers everything the bible teaches as Jesus isn't looking for cherry-pickers.









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You got that right Sherlock Holmes. You obvious didn't know I was referring to Matthew 24:31 against the fallacious teachings of the post-tribulation rapture. Had you knew what I was talking about, you won't admit the error involving a post-trib rapture.

Matthew 24:31 New King James Version (NKJV)
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

In a rapture, people go up, they don't come down.

Gotcha!!! LOL!!!



Oh this sounds sooooo sweet!!! A post-tribber finally admitting the errors in his belief on the timing of the rapture. Of course he had to be conned first as he never thinks before he types and accidentally spilled it out. /grins

Nah you can keep your two marshmallows for admitting the error of a post-trib rapture where the saints are raptured/resurrected, gathered from heaven (where God dwells).

And again, in a rapture, people go up, they don't come down. Matthew 24:31 is clearly not a verse on the rapture.

Matthew 24:31 New King James Version (NKJV)
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.









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You got that right Sherlock Holmes. You obvious didn't know I was referring to Matthew 24:31 against the fallacious teachings of the post-tribulation rapture. Had you knew what I was talking about, you won't admit the error involving a post-trib rapture.

I admitted no such thing the only error here is your false tag line.

Always trying to twist words and “appear” smarter than everyone. Maybe a sign of insecurity?


In a rapture, people go up, they don't come down.

Oh this sounds sooooo sweet!!! A post-tribber finally admitting the errors in his belief on the timing of the rapture. Of course he had to be conned first as he never thinks before he types and accidentally spilled it out. /grins

Nah you can keep your two marshmallows for admitting the error of a post-trib rapture where the saints are raptured/resurrected, gathered from heaven (where God dwells).

And again, in a rapture, people go up, they don't come down. Matthew 24:31 is clearly not a verse on the rapture.

Debunked this a long time ago shall I do it again for this thread.
 
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So you don't believe in the rapture of the church?

And this character writes bible study guides too huh.



This is pretty easy to refute. When will Jerusalem be surrounded by nations, attacked and captured? At the middle of the 70th week during the Abomination of Desolation.

Isaiah 29:1-4 Good News Translation (GNT)
29 God's altar, Jerusalem itself, is doomed! The city where David camped is doomed! Let another year or two come and go, with its feasts and festivals, 2 and then God will bring disaster on the city that is called “God's altar.” There will be weeping and wailing, and the whole city will be like an altar covered with blood. 3 God will attack the city, surround it, and besiege it. 4 Jerusalem will be like a ghost struggling to speak from under the ground, a muffled voice coming from the dust.
Keras ---> Debunked!!!



Sure we do. It's called the rapture of the church, and this happens at the 6th Seal. You just couldn't come to your senses being so lost in the dark from your ridiculous CME teaching.

Revelation 6:12-14New King James Version (NKJV)
12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place.





Keras, I hate to tell you this but Jesus is building a great big wondrous mansion for me in heaven. I'm getting one and so will others who will be raptured pre-tribulation. Too bad those who stays on earth forfeits all rewards as they lose out the opportunity to appear at the Bema Seat to receive their mansion.

The reality about heaven, is all we post-tribbers can hope for is if we are killed for our faith and our soul is kept under the heavenly Altar.

John 14:2-3 New King James Version (NKJV)
2 In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.

2 Corinthians 5:1 New King James Version (NKJV)
For we know that if our earthly house, this tent, is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

Hebrews 11:10 New King James Version (NKJV)
for he waited for the city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

Hebrews 11:16 New King James Version (NKJV)
But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.

Hebrews 13:14 New King James Version (NKJV)
For here we have no continuing city, but we seek the one to come.

Hebrews 12:22-24 New King James Version (NKJV)
22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.

Philippians 3:20-21 New King James Version (NKJV)
20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.

Ephesians 2:19 New King James Version (NKJV)
Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God,



You won't be able to live that long till Revelation 21:3 happens. But first you must get through Daniel's 70th week and the time of Jacob's Trouble. Have fun living in Israel during the great tribulation. I'll keep an eye on you from above.

I promise you you won't be able to stay there very long. You'll just get scattered like everyone else during the great tribulation only to end up going back to New Zealand.

Just make sure you flee when you see the AoD spoken off by the prophet Daniel. Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.




Of course. It's a gathering, not a rapture after the tribulation. No such thing as a post-tribulation rapture. People don't get rapture from heaven.

Matthew 24:31 New King James Version (NKJV)
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

In a rapture, people go up, they don't come down.









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Since you like to post sci-fi videos try this true documentary.

 
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A good video, telling the truth and debunking the pre-trib rapture.
Carl reminded us of 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12, where it is crystal clear that Satan must be revealed BEFORE the coming of our Lord, Jesus Christ, when He is to gather us to Himself.
But those who have chosen to believe something else and are therefore, locked into their beliefs: 2 Thessalonians 2:11, won't and can't change. The test, when it comes, will cause many of them to fall from their faith, they will think God has let them down.
Isaiah 30:8-14 ....prophesy to us not the right things, speak deceit and nice outcomes... what they wanted and what they got. Isaiah 18 is a prophecy for America, Isaiah 18:4-6 tells of the harvest of reckoning to come: how the Lord will allow the unfruitful shoots and branches to be cut off. Those who think they need do nothing and won't face trials and testing.
 
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Isaiah 18 is a prophecy for America, Isaiah 18:4-6 tells of the harvest of reckoning to come: how the Lord will allow the unfruitful shoots and branches to be cut off. Those who think they need do nothing and won't face trials and testing.

LOL again!!!

Keras Keras Keras!!! Keras Keras Keras!!! The one who pulls verses out of context. The one who thinks he's the only one who knows old testament prophecies. The one who thinks he can use them to pull a wool over people's eyes. What am I gonna do with you Keras?

Isaiah 18 is a prophecy about Ethiopia, not America. Look at the titles at the top of all these translations in the link below. They all said either Ethiopia or Cush.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=isaiah 18&version=NKJV;GNT;NLT;NASB;NIV

Even the first verse of Isaiah 18 has Ethiopia/Cush in all these English translations. How do you miss these things so obvious and easy to understand? Trying to pull a wool over people's eyes thinking no one studies OT prophecies except you, or is it you don't understand the things you're reading?

http://www.biblestudytools.com/isaiah/18-1-compare.html










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I admitted no such thing the only error here is your false tag line.

LOL!!! Already knew you would deny everything. It would of been a surprise had you agreed.

Always trying to twist words and “appear” smarter than everyone. Maybe a sign of insecurity?

In a rapture, people go up, they don't come down.

I haven't done anything that would qualify me being smarter than anyone else. All I've done is argue that people don't get rapture from heaven, in a rapture, people go up, they don't come down from heaven.

Matthew 24:31 New King James Version (NKJV)
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

You seem to disagree with my argument, thus making you look foolish.

Any person can look smarter by merely debating with one who's naive.

Debunked this a long time ago shall I do it again for this thread.

You mean like all the nonsense you wrote below? They're all just man-made theories, your own rationale. No scriptures involved.

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I rest my case!

You’ve not made a case yet. Your cryptic talk and “I’m smarter than you” attitude does not make a case. The fact that God has not already destroyed the earth by fire has no bearing on the pre or post debate the final destruction of earth by fire will be after either one whichever is correct. If you have a case to make, then make it I’m all ears.

Now you can throw the post-trib delusional doctrine out the window.

LOL!

That's funny. I don't see the word "removal" highlighted in bold red, do you?

At least you acknowledged it was “funny” it was said in jest. Didn’t you see the LOL?

Let me guess. You have no idea what the shaking of heaven and earth means.

It is you who tried to use the passage to dispute my post, and it is you that failed to make your case. Once again, avoiding straight up debate, clear points and even a minimal effort in making a “case”.

The trip to heaven isn't revealed by the shaking of heaven and earth. It's mentioned in Hebrews 12:22.

Hebrews 12:22 New King James Version (NKJV)

But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels,

You did not directly address any point in my post #350 that you partially quoted.

The verse above has nothing to do with a future PRE-TRIB resurrection of the church, or any trip to heaven by said church! If you have a case to make, then make it.


That's not what it means.

Then share your knowledge and make your case!

Clearly Hebrews 12:22-29 destroys the delusional doctrine of a post-trib rapture.

LOL!

All you need to know is just two things, the church will escape to heaven.

Your highlighting of words and shuffling of verses does not a case make. Nothing in Hebrews 12:22-29 speaks of a pretrib resurrection and a trip for resurrected saints to heaven it simply is not in the text.

Hebrews 12:25

See that you do not refuse Him who speaks. For if they did not escape who refused Him who spoke on earth, much more shall we not escape if we turn away from Him who speaks from heaven,

Your assumption that escape in this verse refers to an escape to heaven is without basis, or merit. It is not in the context or the text. It simply is a desperate attempt to support a theory not found in scripture.

Hebrews 12:22

But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels,

“You have come” not will in the future come. No wonder some can find a pre-trib proof text hiding in many verses where none exist.

You'll get what you want, I'll take an easy escape anyday.

That statement is just one of the problems with the doctrine you tout. Jesus never promised an “Easy” anything about being a believer in Him. Just look at the apostles and what they endured, nothing was easy for them, and they for sure did not “escape” hard times..

If we truly are the last generation are we just so special that we will just be wisked away from the face of trouble and tribulation? I think not, believe what you will. You have far more to lose if you are wrong.

Proverbs 22:3 A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.

I challenge you to find one bible commentary that supports anything in Hebrews 12 supporting a pretrib resurrection and trip to heaven for those resurrected saints. I will be waiting for a response to the challenge.


Hebrew 12 is not a pre-trib rapture proof text!

Hebrews 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

This is not referring to a pre-trib trip to heaven. We are already come “unto mount Sion” our names are already “written in heaven” and our “conversation” (citizenship) is already in heaven. We now at this present time can enter spiritually into the holiest of holies and come boldly unto the throne of grace.

23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

Philippians 3:20 For our conversation (citizenship) is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

Hebrews 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

Hebrews 10:19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

In a spiritual sense we already have access to the throne of God.

24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Jesus is now our mediator and we can now approach Him.

25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:

This does not refer to a literal escape to heaven from this earth

Hebrews 2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

Hebrews 2:3 is the same type of language as Hebrew12:25 there is no trip to heaven implied in the context of either passage.

2 Peter 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

If we stay true to Christ we have escaped final judgment and we have escaped the entanglements of sin and corruption on this earth.

26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.

27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

We are not to be shaken and we are not going to be gathered until after the falling away and the man of sin is revealed.

28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

We have already received the kingdom which cannot be moved, it is within us.

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

29 For our God is a consuming fire.

There is no escape to heaven trip clearly stated or implied in this passage or any other in scripture.

Since you like to post sci-fi videos try this true documentary.


Interesting you would pick Carl Gallups. He is not a good source of biblical truth. I would study directly from the bible instead of learning from one who creates videos to promote heresy.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/PPSIMMONS

You might want to listen to his video at his evidence and how he derived on who he thinks the antichrist is. He even said "this fact is indisputable!"







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LOL!!! Already knew you would deny everything. It would of been a surprise had you agreed.



I haven't done anything that would qualify me being smarter than anyone else. All I've done is argue that people don't get rapture from heaven, in a rapture, people go up, they don't come down from heaven.

Matthew 24:31 New King James Version (NKJV)
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

You seem to disagree with my argument, thus making you look foolish.

Any person can look smarter by merely debating with one who's naive.



You mean like all the nonsense you wrote below? They're all just man-made theories, your own rationale. No scriptures involved.






Interesting you would pick Carl Gallups. He is not a good source of biblical truth. I would study directly from the bible instead of learning from one who creates videos to promote heresy.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/PPSIMMONS

You might want to listen to his video at his evidence and how he derived on who he thinks the antichrist is. He even said "this fact is indisputable!"







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I don't blame you for editing this post I read it before you did and it was very enlightening.
 
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Isaiah 18 is a prophecy about Ethiopia, not America. Look at the titles at the top of all these translations in the link below. They all said either Ethiopia or Cush.
Almost all the translators and commentators get this one wrong.
Ethiopia, or Aethiopia is the ancient name for the Atlantic Ocean. Google: Aethiopian sea.
Does 'tall and smooth skinned, a strong and aggressive people dreaded far and near', fit anyone in North Africa?
Whether you like it or not, Isaiah 18 applies to the USA and I am far from the only one who believes that.
What am I gonna do with you Keras?
All this has nothing to do with me, personally. It has to do with what God has planned for His people in the last days. I take no credit for promoting what the prophets actually wrote.
It is up to everyone to put aside any of mans theories and fanciful notions and understand the real truth of Bible prophecy.
 
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I haven't done anything that would qualify me being smarter than anyone else. All I've done is argue that people don't get rapture from heaven, in a rapture, people go up, they don't come down from heaven.
This statement is obviously made by one who is firstly deceived into believing there will be a rapture to heaven, and then is confused about what others believe.
The prime scripture that is used to promote a rapture is 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17, however a plain reading of that scripture, proves it is all about what will happen the Return of Jesus, when He descends from heaven to commence His Millennial reign. Just a meeting with Jesus in the clouds, the gathering described in Matthew 24:31, to where He is: in Jerusalem.
 
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In the writings as to what was said by Jesus Christ on the mount
to the few disciples that asked him questions, you need to compare
Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. The elect will be gathered not just
from heaven. Mark 13:27
Matthew 24:31.....the angels will gather His chosen from the four winds, from the furthest bounds of the heavens.
This has nothing to do with the heaven that God dwells in.
 
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I don't blame you for editing this post I read it before you did and it was very enlightening.

Most of my posts are revisions, mostly due to grammatical errors. I could of edit my last post with this video as well, but I wouldn't call anything Carl Gallups does as enlightening. More like entertaining as I won't take things he say serious. His thinking is very much inline with Irvin Baxter, and we all know how crazy he is. Carl Gallups thinks the 5th trumpet already passed.







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Almost all the translators and commentators get this one wrong.
Ethiopia, or Aethiopia is the ancient name for the Atlantic Ocean. Google: Aethiopian sea.
Does 'tall and smooth skinned, a strong and aggressive people dreaded far and near', fit anyone in North Africa?
Whether you like it or not, Isaiah 18 applies to the USA and I am far from the only one who believes that.

Does 'tall and smooth skinned, a strong and aggressive people dreaded far and near', fit anyone in North Africa?

So this is your reason why you believe Isaiah 18 is about America regardless of what all the translations, the original writing in hebrew and every commentators said it being Cush/Ethiopia? :doh:

Why don't you ask that question while living in the time Isaiah wrote this prophecy. Do you know which nations on earth were powerful 2700 years ago?

Making a mistake is common and everyone does it but trying to cover up what's obviously wrong just makes one look foolish in front of all eyes.

This statement is obviously made by one who is firstly deceived into believing there will be a rapture to heaven, and then is confused about what others believe.
The prime scripture that is used to promote a rapture is 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17, however a plain reading of that scripture, proves it is all about what will happen the Return of Jesus, when He descends from heaven to commence His Millennial reign. Just a meeting with Jesus in the clouds, the gathering described in Matthew 24:31, to where He is: in Jerusalem.

:doh::doh::doh:

Complete fallacy!

I'm not the one deceived to think the world is at peace and prosperity and Christ commences His millennial reign when He descends from heaven.

Because it doesn't fit your eschatology, just throw the prophecy of Armageddon out the window right?





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LOL!!! Already knew you would deny everything. It would of been a surprise had you agreed.



I haven't done anything that would qualify me being smarter than anyone else. All I've done is argue that people don't get rapture from heaven, in a rapture, people go up, they don't come down from heaven.

Matthew 24:31 New King James Version (NKJV)
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

You seem to disagree with my argument, thus making you look foolish.

Any person can look smarter by merely debating with one who's naive.



You mean like all the nonsense you wrote below? They're all just man-made theories, your own rationale. No scriptures involved.






Interesting you would pick Carl Gallups. He is not a good source of biblical truth. I would study directly from the bible instead of learning from one who creates videos to promote heresy.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/PPSIMMONS

You might want to listen to his video at his evidence and how he derived on who he thinks the antichrist is. He even said "this fact is indisputable!"







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Daniel 7:2
Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.

Daniel 8:8
Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.

Daniel 11:4
And when he shall stand up, his kingdom shall be broken, and shall be divided toward the fourwinds of heaven; and not to his posterity, nor according to his dominion which he ruled: for his kingdom shall be plucked up, even for others beside those.

Zechariah 2:6
Ho, ho, come forth, and flee from the land of the north, saith the Lord: for I have spread you abroad as the four winds of the heaven, saith the Lord.
None of the above passages refer to heaven where God dwells. Matt.24-31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. The above passage does not refer to heaven where God dwells. Basic exegesis shows the Angels gather from all over the earth, from the four winds or directions.
The context of the passages in Daniel and Zechariah are on this earth and so is Matthew 24:31. 1 Thess 4:14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. When Jesus returns God will bring with Him the souls of them that sleep in Jesus, and the angels will gather those in the "four winds" or those from all over the earth . This is what scripture tells us. Trying to force the word heaven in Matthew 24:31 to mean where God dwells might make a good talking point for pretrib doctrine but it cannot be supported by comparing scripture with scripture. The tag line on most of your posts is not accurate and has no basis in scripture.
 
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LOL!!! Already knew you would deny everything. It would of been a surprise had you agreed.



I haven't done anything that would qualify me being smarter than anyone else. All I've done is argue that people don't get rapture from heaven, in a rapture, people go up, they don't come down from heaven.

Matthew 24:31 New King James Version (NKJV)
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

You seem to disagree with my argument, thus making you look foolish.

Any person can look smarter by merely debating with one who's naive.



You mean like all the nonsense you wrote below? They're all just man-made theories, your own rationale. No scriptures involved.






Interesting you would pick Carl Gallups. He is not a good source of biblical truth. I would study directly from the bible instead of learning from one who creates videos to promote heresy.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/PPSIMMONS

You might want to listen to his video at his evidence and how he derived on who he thinks the antichrist is. He even said "this fact is indisputable!"







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Bait and switch tactic. No comment on the substance of the video just go after the credibility of the deliverer.
 
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I was wondering how many years 'soon' means.
This has been discussed often and there is no definitive answer. It is apparent from the fact of nearly 2000 years having passed since Jesus was on earth, that He was talking about God's timing. Revelation 1:1
That is: one day to God is the same as 1000 years earth time. Psalms 90:4, 2 Peter 3:8 If you look at my thread; God's 7000 year Plan, not too far back on this forum, you will see that there isn't many years left until the end of this Church age.

There is quite a lot that must happen before Jesus Returns to reign on earth for the last 1000 years of God's Plan. As Luke 21:34-36 tells us, we must pray for the strength to endure all that will happen until that glorious Day.
 
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