So you don't believe in the rapture of the church?
And this character writes bible study guides too huh.
This is pretty easy to refute. When will Jerusalem be surrounded by nations, attacked and captured? At the middle of the 70th week during the Abomination of Desolation.
Isaiah 29:1-4 Good News Translation (GNT)
29 God's altar, Jerusalem itself, is doomed! The city where David camped is doomed! Let another year or two come and go, with its feasts and festivals, 2 and then God will bring disaster on the city that is called “God's altar.” There will be weeping and wailing, and the whole city will be like an altar covered with blood. 3 God will attack the city, surround it, and besiege it. 4 Jerusalem will be like a ghost struggling to speak from under the ground, a muffled voice coming from the dust.
Keras ---> Debunked!!!
Sure we do. It's called the rapture of the church, and this happens at the 6th Seal. You just couldn't come to your senses being so lost in the dark from your ridiculous CME teaching.
Revelation 6:12-14New King James Version (NKJV)
12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place.
Keras, I hate to tell you this but Jesus is building a great big wondrous mansion for me in heaven. I'm getting one and so will others who will be raptured pre-tribulation. Too bad those who stays on earth forfeits all rewards as they lose out the opportunity to appear at the Bema Seat to receive their mansion.
The reality about heaven, is all we post-tribbers can hope for is if we are killed for our faith and our soul is kept under the heavenly Altar.
John 14:2-3 New King James Version (NKJV)
2 In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.
2 Corinthians 5:1 New King James Version (NKJV)
For we know that if our earthly house, this tent, is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
Hebrews 11:10 New King James Version (NKJV)
for he waited for the city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God.
Hebrews 11:16 New King James Version (NKJV)
But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.
Hebrews 13:14 New King James Version (NKJV)
For here we have no continuing city, but we seek the one to come.
Hebrews 12:22-24 New King James Version (NKJV)
22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.
Philippians 3:20-21 New King James Version (NKJV)
20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.
Ephesians 2:19 New King James Version (NKJV)
Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God,
You won't be able to live that long till Revelation 21:3 happens. But first you must get through Daniel's 70th week and the time of Jacob's Trouble. Have fun living in Israel during the great tribulation. I'll keep an eye on you from above.
I promise you you won't be able to stay there very long. You'll just get scattered like everyone else during the great tribulation only to end up going back to New Zealand.
Just make sure you flee when you see the AoD spoken off by the prophet Daniel. Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Of course. It's a gathering, not a rapture after the tribulation. No such thing as a post-tribulation rapture. People don't get rapture from heaven.
Matthew 24:31 New King James Version (NKJV)
And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
In a rapture, people go up, they don't come down.
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