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LCMS evangelical?

Discussion in 'LCMS / WELS / ELS / LCC' started by Brigid63, Jan 27, 2019.

  1. YeshuaFan

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    The Lutheran view on the sacraments is probably the one area most confusing to Baptists...
     
  2. YeshuaFan

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    You would tend to see that term as more akin to those who reformed Roman Catholic theology?
     
  3. Nova Scotian Boy

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    Not sure if I follow your question.
     
  4. Nova Scotian Boy

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    It comes down to the question of what is baptism. Many baptists with to focus on mode and recipient. The thing is we answer the question of what is baptism in different ways.
     
  5. YeshuaFan

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    We desire to stay away from Baptismal regeneration mainly!
     
  6. YeshuaFan

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    Do you see an Evangelical in the first meaning as referring to those who reformed Catholic theology and became known as Lutherans?
     
  7. Nova Scotian Boy

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    Then your desire is to stay away from the scriptures.
     
  8. Nova Scotian Boy

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    The first meaning is synonymous with Lutheran. It means nothing more and nothing less than one who subscribes unconditionally to the Book of Concord.
     
  9. YeshuaFan

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    No, as to Baptists, and to Lutheran's alike, the scriptures are the only inspired and infallible source for doctrines and theology!
     
  10. Albion

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    Well, it is not "synonymous with Lutheran," even though it was Luther who was the first to effectively raise the banner that we today associate with the word (Evangelical) and the Confessional Lutheran churches are top-notch examples of Evangelical Christianity.
     
  11. YeshuaFan

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    The term Evangelical to me would refer to those Christians who uphold the essential truths and doctrines of the faith, and yet also are involved in culture/society, and in higher education for their members.
     
  12. Radagast

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    I don't think Pew Forum are wrong -- they are the experts. The word "Evangelical" today means "not theologically liberal," and covers all the non-liberal Protestant denominations.

    If you're telling me that the LCMS is now the same as the ELCA, that is disappointing, and I will stay away from LCMS churches in future.

    You could write and tell Pew Forum that the LCMS now identifies itself with the ELCA. You could even merge.
     
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2019
  13. James Murphy

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    Not.
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  14. tampasteve

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    It's not that Pew is wrong, it is that Lutherans use "Evangelical" in a different meaning from Pew, overall.

    As for ELCA and LCMS merging....not until Christ comes back. A more likely scenario is the ELCA, The Episcopal Church, and some others that are already in communion merging to a United Protestant Church or something.
     
  15. YeshuaFan

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    Which Lutheran group believes in ordaining gay minsters and performing gay weddings, and have now agreed with Rome they really teach the same Gospel now?
     
  16. tampasteve

    tampasteve Lutheran Messianic Staff Member Purple Team - Moderator Supporter

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    This sub-forum is about the LCMS/WLS/ELS/LCC, furthering the discussion of this post would be off topic, especially for a non-community member.
     
  17. YeshuaFan

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    I was not meaning to start anything here, can they answer at least which church signed the statement saying Rome and Lutherans are now in agreement again?
     
  18. tampasteve

    tampasteve Lutheran Messianic Staff Member Purple Team - Moderator Supporter

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    AH, my mistake. The ELCA is the American Lutheran church that did, the LCMS did not. But it does not say they are in agreement on much, it is a pretty basic agreement really. They are far from any sort of reunion.
     
  19. YeshuaFan

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    Thanks, as it sometimes get hard to keep track of all of the Lutherans churches, it must be as many have a hard time keeping us Baptists apart!
     
  20. Silverback

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    LCMS, WELS, and most of the smaller groups are very evangelical. Sadly, the largest Lutheran Denomination, the ELCA is not.
     
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