I understand them. By the anointing which teacheth all things.Parroting the words you do not understand will get you nowhere. Only when you can reflect them from within will you prove you have truly eaten them as food. Faith without works is no faith at all. You quote things you don't understand and do things in complete opposition to the ones you are quoting.
Read this and consider that the Letter and Ten Commandments in stone and the entire Old Testament is done away and abolished in its ministration.Actually no, I'm spot on. Your actions prove your intent. Your words are a window to your heart. And every time you type you put out who you are in words. It is sadly no wonder that you do not recognize the spirit of the words I type.
I understand Romans 2 it aligns with this alsoParroting the words you do not understand will get you nowhere. Only when you can reflect them from within will you prove you have truly eaten them as food. Faith without works is no faith at all. You quote things you don't understand and do things in complete opposition to the ones you are quoting.
Are you being devious or are that blind to what you are doing? All those simple quotes of Shaul are the cannon fodder for RT. Yet you innocently claim to not believe in it. All you're doing here is taking his quotes out of context to shove an anti-semetic theology into a Jewish-centric faith group. And you do not appear to be here to understand why we think such things, only to 'simply quote' them to us.I do not believe in replacement theology and I simply quote Paul’s words about the law of Moses and the old covenant,
You have nothing to teach that hasn't already been promoted by replacement theologians. I suggest you go back to believing we are all lost and leave us to our Shalom. We will do just fine without the teachings of Marcion and Justin Martyr. Or is Martin Luther more your style of communicating with Jews?Read this and consider
No sir you do not. Nor can I recognize the spirit within you.I understand them. By the anointing which teacheth all things.
Those are all false accusations I do nothing of the sort.Are you being devious or are that blind to what you are doing? All those simple quotes of Shaul are the cannon fodder for RT. Yet you innocently claim to not believe in it. All you're doing here is taking his quotes out of context to shove an anti-semetic theology into a Jewish-centric faith group. And you do not appear to be here to understand why we think such things, only to 'simply quote' them to us.
I'm not fooled by your feigning. You're definitely on a mission here. Sadly, you are promoting the division between us. And using the scriptures to do so. Just like your fathers.
I do not believe in replacement theology you lie and falsely accuse me.You have nothing to teach that hasn't already been promoted by replacement theologians. I suggest you go back to believing we are all lost and leave us to our Shalom. We will do just fine without the teachings of Marcion and Justin Martyr. Or is Martin Luther more your style of communicating with Jews?
No sir you do not. Nor can I recognize the spirit within you.
You are wanting honest communication, right? See, if you can post all that scripture and not understand a thing you're posting, why would I think that by posting other scriptures you would come around? All I see from you is an adversarial spirit of division that promotes confusion. Posting more scriptures will not help you or I. We have not the same spirit to discern them. And you have yourself to thank for bringing that subject up, sadly.
You are just avoiding the obvious verses that rebuke you in 2 Cor 3 from 6 to the endYou have nothing to teach that hasn't already been promoted by replacement theologians. I suggest you go back to believing we are all lost and leave us to our Shalom. We will do just fine without the teachings of Marcion and Justin Martyr. Or is Martin Luther more your style of communicating with Jews?
No sir you do not. Nor can I recognize the spirit within you.
You are wanting honest communication, right? See, if you can post all that scripture and not understand a thing you're posting, why would I think that by posting other scriptures you would come around? All I see from you is an adversarial spirit of division that promotes confusion. Posting more scriptures will not help you or I. We have not the same spirit to discern them. And you have yourself to thank for bringing that subject up, sadly.
I’m not anti semetic in the least. You falsely charge me.Are you being devious or are that blind to what you are doing? All those simple quotes of Shaul are the cannon fodder for RT. Yet you innocently claim to not believe in it. All you're doing here is taking his quotes out of context to shove an anti-semetic theology into a Jewish-centric faith group. And you do not appear to be here to understand why we think such things, only to 'simply quote' them to us.
I'm not fooled by your feigning. You're definitely on a mission here. Sadly, you are promoting the division between us. And using the scriptures to do so. Just like your fathers.
Look, when someone tells you to stop slapping the other in the face, it's not a proper response to claim you've not slapped them. You should pause and think how you are offensive to those who claim so instead of merely stating you are not, then continuing your offenses.I’m not anti demerit in the least. You falsely charge me.
You are being high minded and talking false hereIt's o.k. I forgive you. Really. You obviously do not know what you are doing.
You are falsely using a fallacy argument and trying to build a straw man about me.Look, when someone tells you to stop slapping the other in the face, it's not a proper response to claim you've not slapped them. You should pause and think how you are offensive to those who claim so instead of merely stating you are not, then continuing your offenses.
The same goes for being anti-semetic through promoting anti-Israel theology as the early church fathers are recorded for doing. And denial is another tactic of the adversary, to deny that which is openly obvious. I humbly point out where your offenses are and you deny them and accuse me of lying instead. Now, I do recognize THAT spirit....
Can you heed a request? Please do not attempt to teach me any further.
Sadly I see that you know very little about the new covenant and the freedom from the lawLook, when someone tells you to stop slapping the other in the face, it's not a proper response to claim you've not slapped them. You should pause and think how you are offensive to those who claim so instead of merely stating you are not, then continuing your offenses.
The same goes for being anti-semetic through promoting anti-Israel theology as the early church fathers are recorded for doing. And denial is another tactic of the adversary, to deny that which is openly obvious. I humbly point out where your offenses are and you deny them and accuse me of lying instead. Now, I do recognize THAT spirit....
Can you heed a request? Please do not attempt to teach me any further.
It seems your real problem is with Paul and the wonderful liberating freedom verses he taught.
We have been delivered from the law of sin and death and walk in the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus.
I want the age old members of this forum to let the irony of these comments made to me to sink in...I fear for some who desire to go under the law of Moses and who seek to establish their own righteousness or who try to be married to the law and Christ st the same time.
Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death.
What exactly does this mean? According to Torah:
Nice try at controlling and manipulating your argument.Sadly I see that you know very little about the new covenant and the freedom from the law
read 2 Coir 3 again from vs 6 and on it relates to you also
and instead of simply using fallacy arguments against me and mud slinging, actually try to answer that section.
[ Adam (אדם) literally means "red", and there is an etymological connection between adam and adamah, adamah designating "red clay" or "red ground" in a non-theological context.[7] In traditional Jewish theology, a strong etymological connection between the two words is often assumed. Maimonides believed the word adam to be derived from the word adamah, analogous to the way in which mankind was created from the ground.[8] In contemporary biblical scholarship there is a general consensus that the words have an etymological relationship, but the exact nature of it is disputed. The word adam has no feminine form in Hebrew, but if it did, it would be adamah.[6] However, it is considered unlikely that the word adamah is a feminization of "adam", and the prevailing hypothesis is that both words originate from the verbal stem "adam" (to be red) and were chosen by the author of Genesis to convey the relationship between man and the adamah.[7][9]All well and good, but why did you say "adamah" was a Jew? Did you mean Adam? HaShem formed Adam from adamah...
You have no idea what propaganda you are promoting on our corner. You came to learn, drop what you know and see from the angle we are showing you, you might be surprised just how high the standard really is with God.You are being high minded and talking false here
i have been a believer and ministering for about 30 years. I have picked up a few things over those years
Dust and ashes aside. In the fruit of self discipline I noticed the field of grasses , herbs, and flowers likened to wild olives.[ Adam (אדם) literally means "red", and there is an etymological connection between adam and adamah, adamah designating "red clay" or "red ground" in a non-theological context.[7] In traditional Jewish theology, a strong etymological connection between the two words is often assumed. Maimonides believed the word adam to be derived from the word adamah, analogous to the way in which mankind was created from the ground.[8] In contemporary biblical scholarship there is a general consensus that the words have an etymological relationship, but the exact nature of it is disputed. The word adam has no feminine form in Hebrew, but if it did, it would be adamah.[6] However, it is considered unlikely that the word adamah is a feminization of "adam", and the prevailing hypothesis is that both words originate from the verbal stem "adam" (to be red) and were chosen by the author of Genesis to convey the relationship between man and the adamah.[7][9]
There is additional relationship between the words adam and adamah and the word dam (דם), meaning blood.[10] This justifies the presence in the Kashrut of the prohibition of the consumption of blood: the blood of a slaughtered animal must be returned to the ground, and covered with earth. ]
The hebrew is bolded for emphasis;
Romans 9:21 Does not the potter have the right to make from the same lump of clay one vessel for special occasions and another for common use?
וְק֥וֹץ וְדַרְדַּ֖ר תַּצְמִ֣יחַֽ לָ֑ךְ וְאָכַלְתָּ֖ אֶת־עֵ֥שֶׂב הַשָּׂדֶֽה׃
Thorns and thistles shall it sprout for you. But your food shall be the grasses of the field;
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בְּזֵעַ֤ת אַפֶּ֙יךָ֙ תֹּ֣אכַל לֶ֔חֶם עַ֤ד שֽׁוּבְךָ֙ אֶל־הָ֣אֲדָמָ֔ה כִּ֥י מִמֶּ֖נָּה לֻקָּ֑חְתָּ כִּֽי־עָפָ֣ר אַ֔תָּה וְאֶל־עָפָ֖ר תָּשֽׁוּב׃
By the sweat of your brow Shall you get bread to eat, Until you return to the ground— For from it you were taken. For dust you are, And to dust you shall return.”
thorns and thistles
You will recognize them by their fruit. Can people pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every healthy tree produces good fruit, but a poor tree produces bad fruit. 18 A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, or a poor tree good fruit. 19 Any tree that does not produce good fruit is cut down and thrown in the fire! 20 So you will recognize them by their fruit.
And still we read about the law as it is applied to the old man
2 Corinthians 3:6. Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.7. But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:9. For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.”
And
I don’t believe in replacement theology
And I’m not going to rebuke you in your attack on THE bible (KJV) in this forum. It’s about a 45 hour talk. Many other can rebuke you in this.
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