Law of sin and death?

[Dave-W]

Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death.​

What exactly does this mean? According to Torah:

Leviticus 20:10
‘If there is a man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, one who commits adultery with his friend’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.​

Does this mean the death penalty is off the table? I know our Lord let a woman caught "in the very act" off the death penalty hook on 2 grounds: 1 - no one would testify against her and 2 - no one grabbed the man.

So how does that relate to this?

Matthew 5:28
but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.​

Is that person liable to the death penalty?

 

[visionary]

Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death.​

What exactly does this mean? According to Torah:

Leviticus 20:10
‘If there is a man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, one who commits adultery with his friend’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.​

Does this mean the death penalty is off the table? I know our Lord let a woman caught "in the very act" off the death penalty hook on 2 grounds: 1 - no one would testify against her and 2 - no one grabbed the man.

So how does that relate to this?

Matthew 5:28
but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.​

Is that person liable to the death penalty?

Maybe Yeshua as our lawyer can get us off the penalty law of sin and death.

 

[truthisfreedom2019]

Matthew 5:28
but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
Is that person liable to the death penalty?

Matthew 5:29-30 says that the death penalty does exist if one does not do anything about one's thoughts or actions.

 

[Dave-W]

Matthew 5:29-30 says that the death penalty does exist if one does not do anything about one's thoughts or actions.

So if someone has an emotional affair, but does not have sex, they are liable for the death penalty?

 

[truthisfreedom2019]

There is no freedom in sin, freedom only exists in righteousness.

 

[icxn]

If we are to interpret the Law spiritually, putting to death someone can be interpreted as putting to death the sin they have committed by 'stoning' (1 Corinthians 3:11-13) them with spiritual instructions that lead them to repentance. Christ did the same when He instructed the woman to go and sin no more. In this way the spirit of the Law is fulfilled and the letter that kills (2 Corinthians 3:6) is avoided.

Forgive me if I overstep the rules of this forum.

 

[truthisfreedom2019]

So if someone has an emotional affair, but does not have sex, they are liable for the death penalty?

That is what the Lord said. Even if the eye offends thee which would be an emotional affair.

 

[Dave-W]

That is what the Lord said.

Since the law of the land does not have a death penalty for such things, (no crime at all AFAIK) who would carry out the death penalty?

Would they not be guilty of murder?

 

[truthisfreedom2019]

Since the law of the land does not have a death penalty for such things, (no crime at all AFAIK) who would carry out the death penalty?

Would they not be guilty of murder?

Only God alone on the judgment day.

 

[Ken Rank]

Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death.​

What exactly does this mean? According to Torah:

Leviticus 20:10
‘If there is a man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, one who commits adultery with his friend’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.​

Does this mean the death penalty is off the table? I know our Lord let a woman caught "in the very act" off the death penalty hook on 2 grounds: 1 - no one would testify against her and 2 - no one grabbed the man.

So how does that relate to this?

Matthew 5:28
but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.​

Is that person liable to the death penalty?

I think the law of sin and death refers back to Adam. Christ didn't make us free from "do not steal" or "do not lay with a man as you would a woman." What he made us free from was the wages of Adam's sin. Now, though we might still taste death, it has lost it's sting because we have the promise of the resurrection through Christ's work.

When Adam sinned the penalty was death... sin and then death... the law of sin and death. Yeshua reversed that curse and made it so we might have life.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death.​

What exactly does this mean? According to Torah:

Leviticus 20:10
‘If there is a man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, one who commits adultery with his friend’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.​

Does this mean the death penalty is off the table? I know our Lord let a woman caught "in the very act" off the death penalty hook on 2 grounds: 1 - no one would testify against her and 2 - no one grabbed the man.

So how does that relate to this?

Matthew 5:28
but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.​

Is that person liable to the death penalty?

IMHO- Romans 8:2 has nothing to do with the death penalty, it has to do with the second death which is the consequence of sin. Jesus Christ was speaking of Spiritual matters not earthly.

Revelation 21:8: "The cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars – their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death".

 

[Dave-W]

Only God alone on the judgment day.

If that is the case why would a penalty (death by stoning) be listed at all?

 

[Dave-W]

IMHO- Romans 8:2 has nothing to do with the death penalty, it has to do with the second death which is the consequence of sin. Jesus Christ was speaking of Spiritual matters not earthly.

OK then the death penalty stands in adultery cases.

 

[truthisfreedom2019]

We, our selves are not to even have the desires of the death of someone. Our desires are to be that they will get right with God and live.

 

[Ken Rank]

OK then the death penalty stands in adultery cases.

It does Dave... IF we lived in a society where the Torah was the national rule of law. The punishments and ability to prosecute those who broke God's laws were in place for Israel when it entered the land and functioned as the nation God desired. But we are all in the nations now and Israel (the current nation state) is secularly ruled.

 

[Dave-W]

It does Dave... IF we lived in a society where the Torah was the national rule of law. The punishments and ability to prosecute those who broke God's laws were in place for Israel when it entered the land and functioned as the nation God desired. But we are all in the nations now and Israel (the current nation state) is secularly ruled.

Since when does the political landscape shape the justice of God?

Perhaps the persons involved should commit suicide?

 

[Ken Rank]

Since when does the political landscape shape the justice of God?

The commandments are to be kept... our ability to punish is not evident when we are in the nations. I can stone you... but I will be thrown into a secular jail or executed by the same. We are not living under the Torah as a rule of the land we live in. So, we keep the commandments as best we can under the conditions we find ourselves, and eventually we'll be in the land with a King... named Yeshua.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

OK then the death penalty stands in adultery cases.

Even an adulterer can repent from their sin and there is no earthly mandate to execute a person for this infraction. But if you are speaking of Spiritual matters yes, if one sin's unto death with no repentance their name may be blotted from the Book Of Life. We know of course God reads our hearts so it can never be known for sure.
Blessings

 

[Dave-W]

But if you are speaking of Spiritual matters

I am talking purely physical matters.

 

[truthisfreedom2019]

If that is the case why would a penalty (death by stoning) be listed at all?

That was the instruction given by Moses but not the instruction of the Lord. I can,t tell why it was listed, I would need Gods guidance on that matter to answer it properly.