Lava Flows vs The Flood

[rjw]

were you there at the time of those "volcanic eruptions"? no

was god there at the time of the flood? yes

my point exactly

Gidday AngryNotice,


Maybe my questions in the last post were somewhat loaded, so allow me to explain.

The reason for your rejection of jwu’s explanation of “no flood” for the evidence supplied by the lava flows was that jwu was not there to observe those lava flows.

So you argue that God was there and hence, presumably, they were caused in one way or another by the Flood.

But you are not God. So telling jwu that he must be there while at the same time allowing that you do not have to be there, is hardly a reasonable way to go, is it?

Your argument may have some coherence if God told you he was there and that this is what he saw. So, is God talking to you? If so, then how do you demonstrate to us that this is the case, and that you are not one of many others who also make similar claims about their gods? We were also not there to see that God did talk to you. If you appeal to the Bible, then were you there to see God write the Bible? Were you there to see God tell others what to write?

Remember, “being there to observe” was the criterion by which you judged jwu.

If God is talking to you, then exactly what did he say:-

1) That these lavas formed at the creation – after all the earth had to be made of something?
2) That these lavas formed at the flood?
3) That these lavas formed naturalistically either before or after the flood?
4) That these laves were formed supernaturalistically by the hand of God sometime after the creation but not during the flood?

Given that jwu was offering an explanation as to when and how these lavas formed and you rejected his explanation for a supposedly superior one, then the onus is on you to offer 1), 2), 3) or 4) above. After all, these are explanations for when and how these lavas formed. However, in offering explanations, and to be scientific about it, you also need to produce viable evidence. Jwu did for his explanations, and you need to do so for yours.

Thus, what did God tell you? If he did not tell you, but rather you prefer scientific explanations, that is explanations based on evidence, then which of the above options do you accept and what evidence can you bring to cause us to accept that evidence as well?

Telling us that your god was there, tells us nothing – unless you can convince us that your god really was there and he told you what happened.

Do you see what I am getting at?


Regards, Roland

 

[TheBear]

bump

 

[Abongil]

were you there at the time of those "volcanic eruptions"? no

was god there at the time of the flood? yes

my point exactly

Do you speak directly to God and talk to him about these things? No.

 

[Dale]

jwu in OP:
"It's typical for lava flows which cooled on dry land."

This is a very good point considering that the Institue for Creation Research claims that volcanic activity is concentrated during the Floor or shortly after.