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Aside from being in direct contradiction to the word of God, the biggest problem with a local flood id that it's impossible given the terrain. There isn't any place in the Middle East that doesn't have runoff to the sea. You can't have a catastrophic flood with waters that cover the tips of a mountain so long as you have an open access for the water to run off. For the flood to happen, sea level had to rise equally as high, which means a global flood.The idea is that the flood was a local event, and wiped out the human population, because they were concentrated in one area; probably the flood plain of Iraq. I dont go along with that, as there is evidence of an ancient world-wide civilisation, which created megalithic structures.
Aside from being in direct contradiction to the word of God, the biggest problem with a local flood id that it's impossible given the terrain. There isn't any place in the Middle East that doesn't have runoff to the sea. You can't have a catastrophic flood with waters that cover the tips of a mountain so long as you have an open access for the water to run off. For the flood to happen, sea level had to rise equally as high, which means a global flood.
Was there anything from the resource you linked to that really stood out to you?This website is by a geologist and Old Earth creationist
The Stones Cry Out - Geology and the Bible:            Updated January 11, 2013
The idea is that the flood was a local event, and wiped out the human population, because they were concentrated in one area; probably the flood plain of Iraq..
Gxg (G²);62346021 said:Was there anything from the resource you linked to that really stood out to you?
Aside from being in direct contradiction to the word of God, the biggest problem with a local flood id that it's impossible given the terrain. There isn't any place in the Middle East that doesn't have runoff to the sea. You can't have a catastrophic flood with waters that cover the tips of a mountain so long as you have an open access for the water to run off. For the flood to happen, sea level had to rise equally as high, which means a global flood.
No it wasn't. "Ryan and Pitman suggest the Black Sea was once a much smaller, land-locked freshwater lake, fed by ancient rivers, and surrounded by fertile plains. Neolithic people, Ryan and Pitman suppose, would have flocked to farm these Eden-like plains to farm them while supplementing their diets with the lake's abundant shellfish."Before the Black Sea flood, the area was one HUGE depression..no run off into ANY ocean.
Intresting article and thanks for sharing itBefore the Black Sea flood, the area was one HUGE depression..no run off into ANY ocean. PBS - Scientific American Frontiers | Beneath the Sea | Noah's Flood
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People need to disbelieve the global flood, which Jesus spoke of, in order to buoy their belief in the nonsense of evolution. If you don't want to believe the Bible then don't believe it. I do wish people would stop misrepresenting it, though.
This is consistent with the "flood weapon" of Gilgamesh rather than the diluvian flood. That is a separate prehistoric legend which is corroborated by archeological evidence.Before the Black Sea flood, the area was one HUGE depression..no run off into ANY ocean. PBS - Scientific American Frontiers | Beneath the Sea | Noah's Flood
Meeting the Angel of the Lord, i.e. God in person is a luxury that none of us have, so an adequate comparison is hard to make.Boy ain't the truth. In Genesis we find the father of our faith, Abraham, and yet how little does the modern church resemble him? He had faith to leave a very secure estate and journey to a hostile land for the sake of a child not yet conceived, with his wife well beyond childbearing years. He and even had faith to sacrifice Isaac after he was born, trusting God had a deeper plan he couldn't understand.
Who stumbles over the flood? Long before geologists started finding evidence for the Flood, ethnographers noticed the universality of flood myths in all cultures. So you have to go back a very long time to find anyone stumbling over the Flood.Yet we stumble over a Flood?
Spiritual interpretations rather than materialistic interpretations hardly constitute disbelief. Quite the other way around.And we don't believe Genesis 1 because it conflicts with naturalistic theories?
This is consistent with the "flood weapon" of Gilgamesh rather than the diluvian flood. That is a separate prehistoric legend which is corroborated by archeological evidence.
Good points..In Genesis we find the father of our faith, Abraham, and yet how little does the modern church resemble him? He had faith to leave a very secure estate and journey to a hostile land for the sake of a child not yet conceived, with his wife well beyond childbearing years. He and even had faith to sacrifice Isaac after he was born, trusting God had a deeper plan he couldn't understand. Yet we stumble over a Flood? And we don't believe Genesis 1 because it conflicts with naturalistic theories?
No it wasn't. "Ryan and Pitman suggest the Black Sea was once a much smaller, land-locked freshwater lake, fed by ancient rivers, and surrounded by fertile plains. Neolithic people, Ryan and Pitman suppose, would have flocked to farm these Eden-like plains to farm them while supplementing their diets with the lake's abundant shellfish."
I don't see any evidence of a major difference in topography being proved, nor do I see evidence of mountains in this make believe low lying area. Since the water came 15 cubits over the peaks of mountains, there had to be mountains. Moreover, if such were the case Noah could have easily walked his family outof the region over the 100 year time that it took to create the ark. No need to build an ark when an oxcart would do.
People need to disbelieve the global flood, which Jesus spoke of, in order to buoy their belief in the nonsense of evolution. If you don't want to believe the Bible then don't believe it. I do wish people would stop misrepresenting it, though.
Genesis 1 will always be true..In Genesis we find the father of our faith, Abraham, and yet how little does the modern church resemble him? He had faith to leave a very secure estate and journey to a hostile land for the sake of a child not yet conceived, with his wife well beyond childbearing years. He and even had faith to sacrifice Isaac after he was born, trusting God had a deeper plan he couldn't understand. Yet we stumble over a Flood? And we don't believe Genesis 1 because it conflicts with naturalistic theories?