Lauren Boebert escorted out of “Beetlejuice” musical in Denver after “causing a disturbance”

[comana]

Yikes. Frankly, she acts like an inmature teenager.

With any luck, her public antics will get her fired next year.

 

[FireDragon76]

So, this family values liar, married (divorce not yet final) excuse for a congresswoman, who vapes and tells a pregnant no she will not stop her vaping, makes out with a man not her husband sure did prove that she has no values.

It's a feature, not a bug. It's part of having an unacknowledged shadow. That's mostly what motivates these kinds of folks in their worldview. Outwardly, they appear to embrace old fashioned values with zeal because inwardly, they know they won't live up to them, so they blame other people and feel entitled to the mercy they won't extend to others.

 

[SarahsKnight]

It's a feature, not a bug. It's part of having an unacknowledged shadow. That's mostly what motivates these kinds of folks in their worldview. Outwardly, they appear to embrace old fashioned values with zeal because inwardly, they know they won't live up to them, so they blame other people and feel entitled to the mercy they won't extend to others.

That pretty much sums up why, as obnoxious as I find more extreme liberals to be oftentimes, as a man who believes in Christ myself I find ultra-conservative Christians to be considerably worse with their judgmental and hypocritical rhetoric, especially when they bring out talk that heavily insinuates that if they thought they could get away with it, they'd have no qualms about grabbing the guns they love so much and committing violence against those they consider wicked enemies because of political differences (all in God's name of course >_> ).

 

[SarahsKnight]

Now now, we're not electing pastors here. Who among us has not gotten drunk and obstreperous, canoodled while still being technically married, and been asked to leave a public place exhibiting demonic entertainment?

*raises hand* Can't say I have.

Yeah, sounds like it was pretty fair to ask Boebert to leave in this case. I mean, I call this behavior of hers described in the OP as being pretty obnoxious.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

My representative!

And I hear shes single now. And she makes more money than me. I'd just have to put up with a few.... behavior issues.

Just make sure you carefully run the analytics...

 

[FireDragon76]

That pretty much sums up why, as obnoxious as I find more extreme liberals to be oftentimes, as a man who believes in Christ myself I find ultra-conservative Christians to be considerably worse with their judgmental and hypocritical rhetoric, especially when they bring out talk that heavily insinuates that if they thought they could get away with it, they'd have no qualms about grabbing the guns they love so much and committing violence against those they consider wicked enemies because of political differences (all in God's name of course >_> ).

Celebration of redemptive violence is another aspects of the religious right in the US, but it's a different dynamic than what I am talking about. I'm talking more about how people can use religious ideas and structures to hide from serious introspection and character development.

 

[Hans Blaster]

It's a feature, not a bug. It's part of having an unacknowledged shadow. That's mostly what motivates these kinds of folks in their worldview. Outwardly, they appear to embrace old fashioned values with zeal because inwardly, they know they won't live up to them, so they blame other people and feel entitled to the mercy they won't extend to others.

I'm sorry, but what does this mean?

 

[FireDragon76]

I'm sorry, but what does this mean?

The Jungian shadow is the opposite of the persona, the conscious self that is presented to the world:

Shadow (psychology) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A shadow is not necessarily negative, but if a person embraces a persona based on purity, then their shadow frequently is defined by impurity that they project onto others. That's part of how authoritarian strongman politics often works, it encourages people to project their repressed unconscious onto racialized and sexualized others.

 

[Larniavc]

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Just make sure you carefully run the analytics...

What’s the horse mean?

 

[Larniavc]

The Jungian shadow is the opposite of the persona, the conscious self that is presented to the world:

Shadow (psychology) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A shadow is not necessarily negative, but if a person embraces a persona based on purity, then their shadow frequently is defined by impurity that they project onto others. That's part of how authoritarian strongman politics often works, it encourages people to project their repressed unconscious onto racialized and sexualized others.

Now I understand Persona 4 Golden a lot more.

 

[FireDragon76]

Now I understand Persona 4 Golden a lot more.

The term persona comes from Greek, and actually refers to the mask that an actor wore in the theater to present a different role (one reason that an iconic symbol for theater is a mask).

 

[driewerf]

What’s the horse mean?

It's a unicorn: the very rare at the lowest on the crazy scale and the highest on the hot scale.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

I'm sorry, but what does this mean?

It means the person is a fake.

 

[FireDragon76]

It means the person is a fake.

More accurately, it means she is immature and lacks self-knowledge. She's practically a middle aged woman, but she lives, acts, and speakes like an entitled brat.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

More accurately, it means she is immature and lacks self-knowledge. She's practically a middle aged woman, but she lives, acts, and speakes like an entitled brat. However, it's hardly surprising, and she isn't alone.

Yeah, that too lol.

 

[Hans Blaster]

The Jungian shadow is the opposite of the persona, the conscious self that is presented to the world:

Shadow (psychology) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A shadow is not necessarily negative, but if a person embraces a persona based on purity, then their shadow frequently is defined by impurity that they project onto others. That's part of how authoritarian strongman politics often works, it encourages people to project their repressed unconscious onto racialized and sexualized others.

Thanks for the reference data. (It becomes more clear why Jordan Peterson talks like a babbling idiot. His "intellectual basis" (Jung) already sounds like that.)

 

[FireDragon76]

Thanks for the reference data. (It becomes more clear why Jordan Peterson talks like a babbling idiot. His "intellectual basis" (Jung) already sounds like that.)

Jordan Peterson isn't the best representative of Jung's thought. Peterson seems more like an academic that fancies himself a "political technician", sort of like Alexander Dugin. Which means he jumbles up a bunch of different ideas to try support a pre-existing political attitude. In Peterson's case, "Christian" nationalism and reactionary politics (whereas Jung's ideas tended to fit more with the emerging counterculture and human potential movement post WWII).

The idea of shadow and persona is also a useful model for understanding personal development, and has occasionally been used in critical theory more generally to understand personal and societal behaviors.

 

[Say it aint so]

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” --Mahatma Gandhi

Remember boys and girls, the words of Jesus are now just seen as liberal talking points.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” --Mahatma Gandhi

Remember boys and girls, the words of Jesus are now just seen as liberal talking points.

The teachings of Jesus are not governing today's Republican party.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Jordan Peterson isn't the best representative of Jung's thought.

Given Peterson's affinity for Jung, I always assumed that his 15-second definitions of Jungian terms were reasonable. It's the remaining half hour of the statement to be cautious of.

Peterson seems more like an academic that fancies himself a "political technician", sort of like Alexander Dugin.

Wow, that escalated fast. Dugin's a nasty piece of work. I suspect westerners touting him are under the survailence of counter-terror or counter-intel squads. Someone should get Dugin an car upgrade like his daughter got.

Which means he jumbles up a bunch of different ideas to try support a pre-existing political attitude. In Peterson's case, "Christian" nationalism and reactionary politics (whereas Jung's ideas tended to fit more with the emerging counterculture and human potential movement post WWII).

It's bad. It's really bad. I saw a Peterson thing recently and it was just a stem-winding mish-mash of ideas, puffery, and nonsense. He did not come off well.

The idea of shadow and persona is also a useful model for understanding personal development, and has occasionally been used in critical theory more generally to understand personal and societal behaviors.

I've actually forgotten what they are already.