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LA Forbids Public Health Workers from Promoting COVID, Flu, and Mpox Vaccines

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Because the Constitution placed limits on Government. I just think the must have missed the part on vaccines.
If the Constitution does not place a specific limit on a given power, then that power is unlimited. There is no limit on vaccine discussion.
 
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Lots of people probably don't know the statistics, actually. It doesn't hurt to have an informed discussion about how they save lives when a 16-year-old is getting their license for the first time, or their first motorcycle.
Gee, if only they had parents.
 
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If the Constitution does not place a specific limit on a given power, then that power is unlimited. There is no limit on vaccine discussion.
Wow. That really opens up the door to tyranny based on health issues.

I’m not comfortable with that. It could lead to closing stores, closing churches, closing….oh wait.
 
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Gee, if only they had parents.
Some people don't, and not all parents are super-well-informed. Some parents come home and get sloshed and pass out and ignore the family. Some parents are anti-vaxxers who never saw what polio can do. Go see Itzak Perlman walk onstage with crutches for an example. He's a disabled man walking out, but when the crutches hit the floor and the violin comes up he owns the room.
 
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Wow. That really opens up the door to tyranny based on health issues.
That's the way it was written, for better or worse.
I’m not comfortable with that. It could lead to closing stores, closing churches, closing….oh wait.
Considering that some claim to be concerned with preserving life, you'd think a Zoom meeting would be a small price to pay.
 
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Considering that some claim to be concerned with preserving life, you'd think a Zoom meeting would be a small price to pay.
There was no actual threat. But the government acted tyrannically.
 
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There was no actual threat.
Covid killed 2% of those infected. Hundreds of thousands died just in the US. The death rate spiked dramatically, which is not a matter of fudging cause of death.
But the government acted tyrannically.
Lots of unfortunate things happened under Trump.
 
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Covid killed 2% of those infected. Hundreds of thousands died just in the US. The death rate spiked dramatically, which is not a matter of fudging cause of death.
2% isn’t anything to be that concerned about.
Lots of unfortunate things happened under Trump.
And Biden even more.
 
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I really don't understand why people say that. A 2% case fatality rate is several times higher than malaria.
If that number was remotely accurate, you’d be correct.
 
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If that number was remotely accurate, you’d be correct.
You did not dismiss the accuracy of 2% CFR for COVID-19, you dismissed concern about a disease with a 2% CFR.
 
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I really don't understand why people say that. A 2% case fatality rate is several times higher than malaria.

Because human lives don't actually matter. This is about politics and power, not human life and liberty. My right to do whatever I want is more important than my neighbor's right to live.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Because human lives don't actually matter. This is about politics and power, not human life and liberty.
Perhaps for the high and mighty, but for the ordinary citizens (ie, posters on this site), I generally thought the issue was innumeracy. People who just don't understand the odds or percentage rates. One-in-fifty odds of death are *NOT GOOD ODDS*.
 
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Perhaps for the high and mighty, but for the ordinary citizens (ie, posters on this site), I generally thought the issue was innumeracy. People who just don't understand the odds or percentage rates. One-in-fifty odds of death are *NOT GOOD ODDS*.

My grandma used to always say "garbage in, garbage out". That's how radicalization works.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Louisiana forbids public health workers from promoting COVID, flu and mpox shots : Shots - Health News
I'll see your three vaccinations and go all in.

Louisiana health department says it will stop promoting mass vaccination. Here's what that could mean

In a surprising announcement, Louisiana's surgeon general announced late Thursday that the state health department "will no longer promote mass vaccination."

In a memo to staff members, Dr. Ralph Abraham described vaccines as "one tool in a toolbox" to combat severe illness and that conversations about specific vaccines are best held between an individual and their health care provider.

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Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center and an attending physician in the division of infectious diseases at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, said not promoting vaccinations could lead to increased hospitalizations and deaths, especially if an outbreak of an incredibly contagious disease, such as measles, emerges.

"This sort of medical freedom notion that you do what you want, the rest of society doesn't count, your neighbor doesn't count, is at best short-sighted, and at worst sort of absents you from any sort of societal responsibility," Offit said. "Do you have any responsibility for the person you sit next to on the bus, or you stand next to on the elevator? You do and you benefit, and they benefit" from vaccines.

[Emphasis added]

Whether 'you' feel any social responsibility is up to 'you', but clearly We The People have a compelling interest in protecting ourselves.
 
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