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GreenEyedLady

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Bulldog said:
Do KJV-only advocates believe that the KJV is even vetter than the original Gree, Hebrew, and Aramaic? :eek:
NO. We do not think its better than the greek, well maybe some people but for the most of KJVO we think its the best english preserved word of God.
BTW, my daughter reads the KJV. She is 8. I think if you just read it, you get to know it and its easier than you think it is.
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GreenEyedLady said:
NO. We do not think its better than the greek, well maybe some people but for the most of KJVO we think its the best english preserved word of God.
That is definitely a valid opinion that is not shared by non-KJVO folks who still feel that the KJV is an excellent translation for its time.

I think if you just read it, you get to know it and its easier than you think it is.
I think the more I get to know a foreign language like Chinese or French, it gets easier to read their literature and probably their bibles as well.
 
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KCJls said:
The problem with the KJV, is younger people cannot understand a word it's saying. I find it very hard, so I use the NKJV.
My 8 and 9 year olds have no problem with it. Thees and thous mean YOU, plural and singular form. No such distinction exists in modern English. When I first had to read Shakespere in school, we we'rent allowed to bypass the old English language, and were told to use a dictionary to look up words we didn't understand. That can still be done today. Dictionary.com works nicely. Also, since most hymns use that form of English, it makes it much easier to memorize scripture. Why keep singing "How great Thou Art" then read "you are great."
 
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TwinCrier said:
When I first had to read Shakespere in school, we we'rent allowed to bypass the old English language, and were told to use a dictionary to look up words we didn't understand. That can still be done today. Dictionary.com works nicely.
And that is why the average person doesn't read Shakespeare outside of the classroom. If you want to relegate the Bible to the realm of those who study languages or children who have been studying languages at a young age, then you are doing the same thing that the RCC did when they refused to authorize translations of the Bible outside of the Latin Vulgate. If you didn't know Latin, you couldn't read the bible. They viewed translations to the common languages as corruptions of the sacred scripture which resulted in the biblical illiteracy of entire generations of Christians. Fortunately the RCC learned their lesson. When will KJVO types?

Recognize that Elizabethan English is almost as different a language from our current english as Spanish is to Portugese or Cantonese is to Mandarin, etc. If it isn't now, very soon it will be.
 
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It's sad, but KJVO churches break fellowship with other believers for something that can only be called prejudice or ignorance. It really isn't possible for most KJVO persons to listen to reason because they believe in the KJV with the same faith they believe in Jesus. However, the KJV is not God, it is a translation of God's word, but only a translation.
 
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KCJls said:
The problem with the KJV, is younger people cannot understand a word it's saying. I find it very hard, so I use the NKJV.

I have been reading KJV all my life, I have to disagree with that, you can't understand it because you don't take the time to try and understand it. Its not that hard yes there is things in every bible that we will not understand but that is the way God wants it. We are not meant to understand everything thats why we are not perfect and only God is.
 
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Are there any NIV only people in here?:thumbsup:

The NIV is the best English translation for the everyday Joe Six-pack English speaking Christian. It sells so well, it must have God's Blessing. Now if Zondervan would only make one with the Deuterocanocal Books (Apocrypha) for us Catholics and Orthodox, it would be da bomb (that means good for you people over 40 ;) ).
 
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JVD said:
It's sad, but KJVO churches break fellowship with other believers for something that can only be called prejudice or ignorance. It really isn't possible for most KJVO persons to listen to reason because they believe in the KJV with the same faith they believe in Jesus. However, the KJV is not God, it is a translation of God's word, but only a translation.
Thanks for speaking for all KJVO everywhere, but no KJVO believes the bible is God. We simply give it more credence then say, oh, the TV Guide. To accuse an entire group of people of being "prejudice or ignorance" is unfair and unjustifiable. You may want to educate yourself on what KJVO actually believe before you make such accusations. I suggest http://biblebelievers.com as a source.
 
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JVD,
As a KJV only person, I can honestly say I have not "Broken Fellowship" with another believer because of what Bible version they read. If you read back you'll see that we believe that the KJV is blessed of God, not that it is God.
 
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JVD said:
It's sad, but KJVO churches break fellowship with other believers for something that can only be called prejudice or ignorance. It really isn't possible for most KJVO persons to listen to reason because they believe in the KJV with the same faith they believe in Jesus. However, the KJV is not God, it is a translation of God's word, but only a translation.

Passing judgement on everyone who is KJVO is wrong, My grandmother belongs to a church who reads out of the NIV but if thats what they want so be it, I"m not gonna judge you because of what bible you read, just as long as you read one. My church is KJVO and we fellowship with lots of other churches that arent we go to my grandmothers church as a church function to plays and lockins and much more and they come to ours, please get your facts straight before passing judgement thanks I said my piece :)
 
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The Bible was written by fisherman, shepherds, and for the most part, very unlearned people, in poor Hebrew and poor Greek.
It was not written by a high and lofty king and his chief theologians and scribes for the use and furtherance of the Church of England. It was not written to have the sound of a classical Elizibethian-style English.
Though I do think that the KJV is a wonderful version, it is only a version, not the version.
I have ALWAYS wondered about this, what Bible do KJVOs want for non-English speaking people to read, or should they learn English?
 
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sethsmommy said:
Passing judgement on everyone who is KJVO is wrong, My grandmother belongs to a church who reads out of the NIV but if thats what they want so be it, I"m not gonna judge you because of what bible you read, just as long as you read one. My church is KJVO and we fellowship with lots of other churches that arent we go to my grandmothers church as a church function to plays and lockins and much more and they come to ours, please get your facts straight before passing judgement thanks I said my piece :)
Actually, I understand what JDV is saying. When I was in high school I had a friend who wasn't allowed to go to my church because we didn't use the KJV. His mother didn't want him to go because she did not believe in contemporary music and she said our church was too worldly, but after we talked her out of that she let him go... until she found out we used the NIV. I'm not sure if her opinion is the same now, but I think her son spontaineously combusted.
 
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Highway of Holiness said:
The Bible was written by fisherman, shepherds, and for the most part, very unlearned people, in poor Hebrew and poor Greek.
It was not written by a high and lofty king and his chief theologians and scribes for the use and furtherance of the Church of England. It was not written to have the sound of a classical Elizibethian-style English.
Though I do think that the KJV is a wonderful version, it is only a version, not the version.
I have ALWAYS wondered about this, what Bible do KJVOs want for non-English speaking people to read, or should they learn English?
There are accurate versions of the bible translated from the texus Receptus in other languages. Just as with English speaking people, it is up to them to find the accurate version of God's word in their language. If English isn't your first languge, please, by all means, find God's word in your native tongue. That's what KJVO did, and we came to the conclusion that the KJV is God's word in English for us. I'm sure you did much research into many bible versions before deciding on the version you chose... right?
 
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