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I don't really care what Kimmel says. But when you work for an employer, and doing monologues as part of that job, saying whatever you want is not a free speech issue. I imagine he will double down, he, Disney, ABC, and most of Hollywood are leftists, after all.

The idea that the shooter is MAGA is pretty stupid, though. His family was MAGA, they turned him in. If you want to make up a lie, you'd think you could come up with a better one than that. Maybe that's what they are all saying in his echo chamber though
Even i was fooled for a day or so when I read he might be linked to the right-wing groypers and some of their statements on the shell casings. We see mistakes all the time about motives of perpetrators. Kimmel is shallow and insensitive. Given his show why should we expect more? I doubt I have watched him in total more than a few hours over the years, While I would prefer better programming, I say let the market decide. Seems like he won't last anyway.
 
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No, I'm saying most indications point to Tyler Robinson espousing left-wing ideology.
There is no indication that he agree with the left in all matters. He did start believing that gays and trans people deserve equal rights. Meaning he was leaning left, as his mother said and not a leftist,
 
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There is no indication that he agree with the left in all matters. He did start believing that gays and trans people deserve equal rights. Meaning he was leaning left, as his mother said and not a leftist,
Sure someone taking a high powered rifle onto a rooftop to commit a political assassination has moderate written all over it.
 
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No. I'm saying if Tyler had a liberal ideology, he would support Charlie Kirks right to Free speech even if he disagreed with it.
Hmmm, well he would also do that if he was an old school Republican. He definitely agreed with Kirk on gun rights.
 
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Sure someone taking a high powered rifle onto a rooftop to commit a political assassination has moderate written all over it.
No, it has right wing gun rights all over it. Of course, now we have conspiracy theories throwing doubt on who did the murder.
 
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No, it has right wing gun rights all over it. Of course, now we have conspiracy theories throwing doubt on who did the murder.
Left-wing gun control proposals wouldn't keep an adult from owning a standard hunting rifle like Robinson's .30-06 Mauser.

Read the charging documents. Robinson's DNA was all over the murder weapon and the crime scene. There's a 0.001% chance he didn't do it. Plus he confessed to doing it.

And once again, committing a political assassination is not an indicator of someone being a moderate. That idea is preposterous.
 
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Left-wing gun control proposals wouldn't keep an adult from owning a standard hunting rifle like Robinson's .30-06 Mauser.

Read the charging documents. Robinson's DNA was all over the murder weapon and the crime scene. There's a 0.001% chance he didn't do it. Plus he confessed to doing it.

And once again, committing a political assassination is not an indicator of someone being a moderate. That idea is preposterous.
I agree but there are some good points. He's never seen with the weapon that should have created a large exit hole and blown apart Kirk's spinal column.
 
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Hmmm, well he would also do that if he was an old school Republican. He definitely agreed with Kirk on gun rights.
The Constitution has liberal ideology as pertains to protecting civil rights. The right to free speech was in the first amendment before there were any political parties.
 
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Well the evidence Robinson espoused left-wing ideology is in everything he said to those closest to him, but let's keep ignoring that in favor of pet notions.
The sarcasm above is ignoring the fact that I'm on the record saying that I believe the shooter killed Kirk because he was in a relationship with a trans person viewed Charlie kirks sentiments as hateful. I don't see any proof of Robinson espousing left wing ideology.
You don't espouse trans ideology, but Robinson obviously did, and therefore most likely regarded Twiggs as a woman.
I'm on the record saying it seems obvious to me that if Robinson is in a relationship with a trans, he would be pro-acceptance and equal rights for trans people. That doesn't account for being misguided enough to use authoritarian tactics such as murder.
 
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Devil = deceiver and tempter ie t's okay to kill the baby in your womb, you'll be happier if you do, you're all that matters. It's okay to have sex outside of marriage. It's okay to have sex with a person of the same sex. Same sex marriage is okay. It's okay for a man to be a woman. It's okay to take narcotics. It's okay to enter a country illegally etc.
If you're saying the devil is a liar, I agree. I would even say that every action of sin is based on belief in something that is not true.
 
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Devil = deceiver and tempter ie t's okay to kill the baby in your womb, you'll be happier if you do, you're all that matters. It's okay to have sex outside of marriage. It's okay to have sex with a person of the same sex. Same sex marriage is okay. It's okay for a man to be a woman. It's okay to take narcotics. It's okay to enter a country illegally etc.
If you're saying the devil is a liar, I agree. I would even say that every action of sin is first based on belief in something that is not true.
 
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Sure someone taking a high powered rifle onto a rooftop to commit a political assassination has moderate written all over it.
The sarcasm is not forthright. I don't believe blaming "the left" for Kirk's murder is of God.
 
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I agree but there are some good points. He's never seen with the weapon that should have created a large exit hole and blown apart Kirk's spinal column.
Read the charging documents. There's video evidence of Robinson holding the rifle his DNA was all over after he discarded it in the wooded area as he went into detail about in his text messages to Lance Twiggs. And there's no way to know what all damage the expended round caused until the medical examiner's report is released.

In the meantime there's this mortician's evaluation:
 
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The Constitution has liberal ideology as pertains to protecting civil rights.
Protecting civil rights isn't a liberal ideology unless you want to go back in time several hundred years, into Europe.
The right to free speech was in the first amendment before there were any political parties.
Well, I don't know the exact date that George Washington's Independent Party was established but it was in the same year.
 
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I do not agree or disagree.

I do however see this as evidence that freedom of speech stopped existing a while ago.

For better or worse.
Thank the Left leaning for pushing that.

FOS is still around, but certain areas are restricted as we saw facebook do so during covid and the Left wouldn't allow questioning of the covid vax.
As someone who gets vaccines, I'm 100% for vaccine choice since I trust my vaccines I get.
Apparently some don't trust theirs. Anf the LEft not allowing those who can't or don't want to, to not be able to question things and get answers is plain wrong. They censored FOS and that just showed them further as the dictatorial fascists they are.
But I digress :laughing:
 
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Protecting civil rights isn't a liberal ideology unless you want to go back in time several hundred years, into Europe.
I suppose you could trace the beginnings of liberal thought back to earlier forms of oppression, but I'm primarily referring to protecting civil liberties guaranteed in the Bill of rights.
Well, I don't know the exact date that George Washington's Independent Party was established but it was in the same year.
I only recall Jefferson and Madison establishing some form of a party system.
 
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