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Kamal Harris is Using JOY, as a Method to Break Down Barriers

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This is certainly a novel approach to campaigning, at least in
America.

The too common approach of "Disagree with me, and I'll stomp you into the dust"
approach by too many politicians, (and some church congregations), is NOT
persuasive. And, that violence-just-under-the-surface approach, attracts
people who have a pension for lawless violence. The January 6th lynch mob
that Donald Trump incited, is an example of this.

One of the reasons why we DIDN'T need another Biden-versus-Trump
presidential contest, is that Biden is very narrow in the way he lectures
about his political position. This may work with his longtime fans, but,
as I have mentioned before, to win the presidency, currently, the candidate
had better appeal to the MODERATE MIDDLE of America, and not to the
party fringe groups.

We need a president who is a public servant, and very clearly KNOWS that,
and who will cooperate across the political party lines in Congress, to solve the
problems that America (obviously) needs to solve. We need a president who
REALLY listens to the people.

What we don't need is more authoritarian (the article would use the word
"fascist") candidates who seriously consider whether or not presidential
immunity would give them the power to stomp our asses, publicly, outside
the fair rule of law in America, if we happen to disagree with him.

It is certain that we will disgree with any future president, on some topic
or another. American democracy allows this freedom.


I am delighted that Kamala Harris is taking the route of enjoying American
democracy, and realizing that freedom has got to be enjoyed.

I am waiting for North American Christians to realize this basic
truth, also.
 

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When you don't have to experience the consequences of your decisions, it may be easier to
act giddy and joyful.
Exactly. If you have no substance then all you can do is giggle and be happy to the point of incoherency. I would rather a president that tells it like it is even if that may be uncomfortable and not joyful. The joy is earnt and if not it is a false joy, a smiling assassins joy before they pull the rug out from under you.

Harris can make all these popularlist slogans and put on the false persona. Heck she is a chameleon and can become whatever you want her to be. Thats the problem there is no realness, the laugh is not one of joy or happiness, the joy is not born deserved joy and the promises are false and the same rhetoric we have heard for years. Promising paradise and producing hell.

What it will come down to is what is actually happening on the ground. How people are struggling to make ends meet, to buy a roof over their heads, to have safe and secure communities and a peaceful world.

None of that has happened under Biden and Harris's watch. As with other Leftist governments throughout Britain and Europe there is rising conflict and war on the streets from bad immigration policies. Ideologies about open borders and a DEI utopia. A green new world at the expense of food on the table to feather the nests of an entire Woke administration and the elites.

While the very people they champion the minorities are suffering with breakdowns in economics, families and mental illness due to Leftist policies that are rejecting God and breaking up families who are the backbone of society.

The Harris government is promising the exact same ideas that have created the mess. More spending of money that we haven't got, attacking business, giving away other peoples money. Popular vote buying like forgiving debt, free health care, stopping price gouging. Its all been done before and we know what the end result is, chaos.

Giving away money that is just not there. Which will only put more pressure on inflation and devalue the $ making things even worse. There is no vision and substance, just identity politics.
 
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When you don't have to experience the consequences of your decisions, it may be easier to
act giddy and joyful.
Well, that excuses Donald Trump, who's had a lot of um... consequences of his decisions, lately.

But what's Vance's excuse?

It's not just democrats. George W. Bush, Jerry Ford, and Ronald Reagan, are/were basically happy people who could laugh and even laugh at themselves.
 
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Well, that excuses Donald Trump, who's had a lot of um... consequences of his decisions, lately.

But what's Vance's excuse?

It's not just democrats. George W. Bush, Jerry Ford, and Ronald Reagan, are/were basically happy people who could laugh and even laugh at themselves.
I think its about when you laugh, when you appeal to joy and good feelings. I think they need to be earnt and what people find with Harris is that the laughter and appeals to joy is all she has. Is done at times when the very opposite or a specific reply was needed.

Its almost a nervous reaction to stall for time. Then the reply is usually another appeal to feelings or nobel causes which also people relate to A lot of appeal to feelings but not much substance.

This is part of that 'feelings replace reality' or policy approach. So long as you can pretend everything is happy and the 'feel good factor' and that they are fighting the good cause as opposed to the evil opposition then that substitutes for policy and reality.

On the surface it works as its about emotions and nobel causes and we all relate to that whether deserved or not. Most people don't think too much past the feel good factor. Thats how many are fooled.

I think the difference with Vance at least is that he is not happy or laughs to avoid scrutiny but genuinely does so in response to what he may consider silly. He addresses the issues more directly and explains why the oppositions claims or policy is silly and laughable. There are good reasons for him to laugh and be happy as far as I can see. Which is completely different to Harris indifferent laugh and false joy when in reality theres nothing to be joyous about some of their policies.
 
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Honestly, I think the gripes about her laughing, her “joy,” her excitement is just people who have been conditioned to live in a place of fear for the last 10 years.
 
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This is certainly a novel approach to campaigning, at least in
America.

The too common approach of "Disagree with me, and I'll stomp you into the dust"
approach by too many politicians, (and some church congregations), is NOT
persuasive. And, that violence-just-under-the-surface approach, attracts
people who have a pension for lawless violence. The January 6th lynch mob
that Donald Trump incited, is an example of this.

One of the reasons why we DIDN'T need another Biden-versus-Trump
presidential contest, is that Biden is very narrow in the way he lectures
about his political position. This may work with his longtime fans, but,
as I have mentioned before, to win the presidency, currently, the candidate
had better appeal to the MODERATE MIDDLE of America, and not to the
party fringe groups.

We need a president who is a public servant, and very clearly KNOWS that,
and who will cooperate across the political party lines in Congress, to solve the
problems that America (obviously) needs to solve. We need a president who
REALLY listens to the people.

What we don't need is more authoritarian (the article would use the word
"fascist") candidates who seriously consider whether or not presidential
immunity would give them the power to stomp our asses, publicly, outside
the fair rule of law in America, if we happen to disagree with him.

It is certain that we will disgree with any future president, on some topic
or another. American democracy allows this freedom.


I am delighted that Kamala Harris is taking the route of enjoying American
democracy, and realizing that freedom has got to be enjoyed.

I am waiting for North American Christians to realize this basic
truth, also.
The whole "Joy" branding of Kamala is just an attempt to counter the fact that she is mercilessly mocked outside of her typical voter base for responding to serious questions with awkward laughter. Also, neither D or R candidate appeals to moderates. JFK Jr. would be the closest candidate to that and he's most likely endorsing Trump this evening, possibly for a position in his cabinet. If the DNC has communicated anything to voters over the past week, it's that Democrats are only interested in dividing America based on race, religion, sex, sexual fetishes, mental disorders, etc., which is why we're strangely seeing a post-convention bump for Trump instead of the Democrat nominee.
 
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The whole "Joy" branding of Kamala is just an attempt to counter the fact that she is mercilessly mocked outside of her typical voter base for responding to serious questions with awkward laughter. Also, neither D or R candidate appeals to moderates. JFK Jr. would be the closest candidate to that and he's most likely endorsing Trump this evening, possibly for a position in his cabinet. If the DNC has communicated anything to voters over the past week, it's that Democrats are only interested in dividing America based on race, religion, sex, sexual fetishes, mental disorders, etc., which is why we're strangely seeing a post-convention bump for Trump instead of the Democrat nominee.
The DNC ended last night; how fast do you think post convention bumps happen? Lol
 
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So it ended less than 12 hours ago and you’re declaring there to be no polling bump post DNC? LoL, k.
I said there is a bump... Just for Trump. DNC should have gotten Beyoncé like they promised I guess.
 
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I think we are making too much of this.
Kamala is simply giving us the opposite of the usual GOP anger and fear.
Naturally a fresh message of hope and joy would be a good strategy even if is is based on fantasy.
 
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I think its about when you laugh, when you appeal to joy and good feelings. I think they need to be earnt and what people find with Harris is that the laughter and appeals to joy is all she has.
A lot of criminals she put behind bars probably wish you were right. She made a career of putting felons away. One more to go.

And no, you don't need to earn joy. Just accept it from God and it's yours.

Its almost a nervous reaction to stall for time.
Try it. It's better than you think.
This is part of that 'feelings replace reality' or policy approach.
That's more like Trump promising us that COVID-19 would just go away "like a miracle." He says he lied to us to "avoid panic." How did his attempt to replace reality with feelings work out?

He addresses the issues more directly and explains why the oppositions claims or policy is silly and laughable.
The public seems to be smarter than he is. Have you seen his approval rate in his own region? Today:

JD Vance's unpopularity is in the double digits, with it reaching a +10 unfavorability on a polling average site for the first time.

The Ohio Senator has had a difficult time in the polls since former President Donald Trump announced he was his running mate at the Republican National Convention in July.

His early polling issues seem to be changing in some polls, with the most recent Morning Consult research showing that voters are now only two points more likely to have unfavorable than favorable views of Vance.

None-the-less, the polling aggregation site FiveThirtyEight shows unfavorable opinions of Vance at 43.2 percent and favorable opinions of him at 33.2 percent.

This is a net difference of 10 percentage points, the first time it has been in the double digits on FiveThirtyEight since Vance entered the race.

FiveThirtyEight's results, the most recent of which were updated on Wednesday, are based on a projection of 95 percent of polls falling in that range.

JD Vance's unpopularity is now in the double digits
 
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A lot of criminals she put behind bars probably wish you were right. She made a career of putting felons away.
Mass incarceration seems to be one of her vulnerabilities though. Even for progressives.
 
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A lot of criminals she put behind bars probably wish you were right. She made a career of putting felons away.

One more to go.

Mass incarceration seems to be one of her vulnerabilities though.
She didn't sentence them. After police caught them, she prosecuted them. A jury of their peers convicted them, and the judge sentenced them. She merely laid out the evidence.

I realize that some people think criminals should not be sent to prison. I get why Donald Trump and some of his followers might be supporting that position. But I'm reminded of a Richard Pryor monologue...

"Yeah, I went down to Solidad Prison, did a performance there. Got to hang out with the brothers for a while. And all I got to say is....

THANK GOD FOR PRISONS!"
 
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A lot of criminals she put behind bars probably wish you were right. She made a career of putting felons away.

One more to go.


She didn't sentence them. After police caught them, she prosecuted them. A jury of their peers convicted them, and the judge sentenced them. She merely laid out the evidence.

I realize that some people think criminals should not be sent to prison. I get why Donald Trump and some of his followers might be supporting that position. But I'm reminded of a Richard Pryor monologue...

"Yeah, I went down to Solidad Prison, did a performance there. Got to hang out with the brothers for a while. And all I got to say is....

THANK GOD FOR PRISONS!"
I think there's a completely different sentiment now compared to the days of Richard Pryor, or even Kamala's DA days.
 
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I said there is a bump... Just for Trump. DNC should have gotten Beyoncé like they promised I guess.
It has been 12 hours. I’m sure if you give it a minute, you’ll see it.
 
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Anger, hatred = GOP? Joy = DNC? The former talking point paradigm is the ultimate in gaslighting. The latter, the pinnacle of mislabeling.
'The joy of the government is their strength.'

Back when he ran against McCain, Obama said he wanted to "make government 'cool' again." I wondered; "When was government ever cool?" Are referees, and umpires cool? Well maybe to their spouses, and families. So I guess the "Joy" business is a perpetuation of his goal.
 
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