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Just when you think the media cannot sink any lower

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Hi. Latino voter here. I don’t need some wealthy CEO and long time Trump backer to try and Hispanosplain to me what to think about the hate rally I saw with my own eyes and heard with my own ears. This cultural sellout’s opinion is worth less than a can of Goya beans to me.
 
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Were they "othering" all immigrants, or just undocumented/illegal immigrants? (I've seen "day-after" clips, but I didn't watch the rally, so that's an honest question)

If it was just the latter...then how is it different than how society "others" any other group that's violating (or has violated) specific laws?

We "other" certain people by not letting them do certain things once they have a specific type crime on their record.
 
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What is your opinion regarding the polling showing that Trump has more Hispanic and Latino support than does Harris? What is your opinion regarding the facts that 325,000 Hispanic children have been lost or sold because of human trafficking within the last 3 1/2 years?
 
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The carving watermelons joke?

"America is for Americans and Americans only"

lol c'mon man
I remember when people didn't allow themselves to get upset at obvious attempts to try to be funny.
 
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I remember when people didn't allow themselves to get upset at obvious attempts to try to be funny.
I agree.

What actually was Kathy Griffiths crime??
 
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I agree.

What actually was Kathy Griffiths crime??
She didn't commit any crime. Tasteless jokes are not against the law.
 
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I remember when people didn't allow themselves to get upset at obvious attempts to try to be funny.
Stephen Miller’s comment about America being for Americans wasn’t a joke.

I thought the watermelon joke could’ve been funny on Kill Tony, but probably not a good idea in a room of people who’ve lamented the unfairness of their not being allowed to use the N word in public when black people can.
 
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Stephen Miller’s comment about America being for Americans wasn’t a joke.
Why do you have a problem with America being for Americans?
 
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Why do you have a problem with America being for Americans?
Because the people who say that often have very un-American hurdles on who counts as American. Stephen Miller being a shining example of that, given his proclivities in promoting the Great Replacement nonsense.
 
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Did you think the 1939 Nazi rally in NYC was all a bunch of foreigners?
The American Nazi Party was mostly German American, immigrant and 1st generation.
The main speaker was a German national.
The US realized when the predominate immigrant wave was German, that "diversivity" was a very bad move.
33% of American had German ancestory during WWII
Most of the English Only especially in schools was to create a unified citizenry united by common language and culture.
English Only meant no German spoken here.
Newspapers written in German and German schools were shut down in the the 1920's and 30's
It is not diversity which is our strength. It is our common shared identity.
It is so much our strength that the German and Italian armies in WWII were defeated by a thoroughly American army comprised of Germans and Italians who communicated easily in English and shared the same national identity.
The Germans were not allowed to form tribal areas or tribal identity within the US. They were assimilated, forcibly in some cases.
 
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Why do you have a problem with America being for Americans?
Yeah, I do. One of America’s defining characteristics is our being a “melting pot” of cultures; one of the foundational myths we tell ourselves is of this land being a place of opportunity for anybody who’d come here and put in the effort to realize it. Defining “America” as being “for Americans only” is, ironically, one of the most unAmerican things one could do. It misses the entire point.

I also think it’s a lousy way to treat immigrants.
 
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In their rush to slander. They don’t realize the building the Rally was held in didn’t exist in 1939

It was built 30 years later.
 
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The melting pot which you and I love was formed by legal immigrants who legally became Americans.
 
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Oh yes. I recall what was said about her.
As do I, my brother. Those things were wrong to say then, and now to this day also in my opinion. I don't personally subscribe to cancel culture at all.
 
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The melting pot which you and I love was formed by legal immigrants who legally became Americans.
That’s such a specious answer. For one thing, a good chunk of them came here and plundered the natives. “Legal”? Sure, I suppose if you consider conquest to be legal. Second, there weren’t much in the way of immigration laws for the first century-and-a-half of the country’s existence. What created the melting pot was open borders.
 
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That appears to be an interesting way of interpreting history through the norms of modern day society.
 
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The melting pot which you and I love was formed by legal immigrants who legally became Americans.
What's a "legal immigrant"? For most of my ancestors all there is to record their entry is an entry on a passenger manifest at their port of arrival. An entry that was recorded for everyone who entered, whether they were staying or not. (including the crew)
 
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